Even with it rotating out of Standard soon, would it still work?
BW with Control elements, or BR with Burn/Aggro.
My bad- UW and UR.
Delver was only viable because of ponder
Delver is huge in legacy
Huge
Delver is kinda weak in standard, {Pillar of Flames} deals with him pretty sufficiently.
If you look at the old blue white delver decks with {Geist of Saint Traft} and {Runechanter's Pike} you could just replace delver with {Cloudfin Raptor} and have your creatures just be {Cloudfin Raptor}, {Geist of Saint Traft}, {Augur of Bolas}, and {Snapcaster Mage} using all other cards {Runechanter's Pike}s and instants and sorcerys
Cloudfin raptor isn't A seven turn clock all by itself...
Quote from: Potticus on March 28, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 28, 2013, 09:47:54 PM
Cloudfin raptor isn't A seven turn clock all by itself...
With
Exactly. A bad sub
It can be evolved or equiped to make it one lol
Quote from: Potticus on March 28, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
Quote from: Bman0121 on March 28, 2013, 10:08:12 PM
Quote from: Potticus on March 28, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 28, 2013, 09:47:54 PM
Cloudfin raptor isn't A seven turn clock all by itself...
With
Exactly. A bad sub
It can be evolved or equiped to make it one lol
It's not as consistent. You can use it as a sub but it will never be as affective.
I mean obviously its not as good as delver but its a sub that can still get the job done
There is a U/G Delver deck that just won the first PTQ out in Arizona last week. I don't have the list on me but its posted on dailymtg.com
{B}{U}{G} delver is pretty good atm. The replacement for {Ponder} is {Dimir Charm}, it can also have things like {Abrupt Decay}, and {Deathrite Shaman}
Big doesn't seem aweful but dimir charm is a poor sub for ponder. Aside from that the existence of abrupt decay alone is a serious reason to nt play it in standard. The biggest reason it was as powerful as it was was because of mana leak backup. Without effective counter magic on turn two or turn three on the play you will never get there. Just curious but what did the bug list use as its finisher?
Quote from: Agrajagzz9 on March 31, 2013, 06:11:41 PM
Big doesn't seem aweful but dimir charm is a poor sub for ponder. Aside from that the existence of abrupt decay alone is a serious reason to nt play it in standard. The biggest reason it was as powerful as it was was because of mana leak backup. Without effective counter magic on turn two or turn three on the play you will never get there. Just curious but what did the bug list use as its finisher?
If you have a flipped delver out, isn't {Spell Rupture} the same as {Mana Leak}?? I think the main reason delver is not played now is because of {Ponder}, and there is a lot of cheap removal in the standard format right now..
No it's because of abrupt decay. Kla all the delvers