This is from PM conversation I had with Umbra. I was making full quotations.
-- my first reply
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 06:12:05 AM
Quote from: Umbra on March 25, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
So correct me if I'm wrong but you're a moderator correct?
If so can you do everyone a favor and find out who's been a little too trigger happy with the karma downvotes. It's frustrating to see and it's been mentioned by people. Again the community would appreciate it, thanks
-Umbra
It appears to me that you are too serious about yourself. Chill out and read some about empathy.
-- my second reply
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:49:58 AM
Thanks, paid money to this app and get condescending messages back, awesome work
You wrote this in response to my "It appears to me that you are too serious about yourself. Chill out and read some about empathy.", true or false?
If true, how paying me money changes the fact that you act like a self-important dork? Do you mind if we make this conversation public, please?
-- my public reply
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 11:38:53 AM
A.) I'm not being self important, I've heard from several others that some people are being careless with karma ratings and thought I could take it to a moderator just to see is someone is trolling the app
B.) Obviously I don't want to take this public you .loving. plebeian that's why I messaged you hoping you would respect your customers similar to how I sent you a mild toned, respectful message.
C.) I paid for the app so there should be some type of mutual respect for the customer and the moderator.
A) This is not how I see it, considering the thread you started in General, the way you handled yourself there and now how you handling yourself in this conversation. Based on your behaviour I think you are self-important.
B) I obviously do not want to be insulted in such way. I believe you have broken the law by insulting me unprovoked and I will make this conversation public regardless of your will. Treat this as my punishment for this insult of yours, you are not guilty.
C) Not at all, as a moderator I merely respect the law. As a supplier of the app, thanks!
First message seem respectful. Second message he's clearly getting mad. Third message he seems po'ed. I'm not sure about self important. He definitely seems quick tempered, and seems to be getting mad because your not doing what he wants. Which makes me think he's selfish and controlling. Definitely the bad {B} characteristics
I feel as posting this topic is just putting gas on the fire and both side should stop
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: Millionlittlee on March 26, 2013, 12:34:49 PM
I feel as posting this topic is just putting gas on the fire and both side should stop
I agree, it's not a very mature reaction to my not very reaction.
Making this public was purely caused by you calling me names. If you didn't I had no way of making this public as you clearly stated you don't want to. You shoot your own foot here ;)
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
I asked several people about this conversation (they read the messages) they said that yes I lost my temper but also your response was rude and not very professional.
It was not professional at all, but I don't think I was rude. I was giving you harsh but honest feedback about your behaviour, not calling you names.
It seems to me that Piotr was calm and respectful with his first response. As well as his second. I don't realy see the point in continuing o bicker about it. Just learn from it and move on. If you continue, you'll only make people more pissed at you. Just let it go man
Umbra, I gave you a chance at first as you seemed to mean well. Someone who downvoted you came out and told you why, he didn't have to do that, he was trying to help explain how you could avoid receiving negative karma. Then on the same thread you make a rude and presumptuous comment about the moderators. But we told you karma isn't a big deal and you go to Piotr to try and find out who's down voting you? Based on what I have seen, I would assume that Umbra is either self-important or under 18 years old.
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 12:49:19 PM
You did however not really even acknowledged what I asked which bothered me. A simple "no, can't do that" is better than what I was given.
Well yes, but if I did we wouldn't be having this interesting test of our little iMtG Law just now. I like escalating things, I'm a bit evil I think :D
And you did make it easy for me, I couldn't resist, sorry ;)
See, I can do anything I want on this forum. I created it and I can shut it down. The only thing which prevents me from doing 'anything' is the law which I obey the same as you promised to. Please obey it or you will be punished.
Umbra. Your Karma will plummet if you don't let it go. Trust me, I know
Let it be, let it be
She whispered words of wisdom
Let it be
Bududududum
Oh No, Batman Is Back 0.o
I thought it was funny...
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2013, 01:05:13 PM
Let it be, let it be
She whispered words of wisdom
Let it be
Bududududum
And so they'll hunt my karma, because I can take it... Not because I'm a hero... I'm a silent guardian... A watchful protector... A dark knight.
Holy scheiß I just got the play on words "dark knight"
As written above Umbra. You get it all wrong do not care about Karma, it does not matter if you are in plus or minus some people do not know for what they are giving karma either positive or negative... Few of them use it as a revange that u oposed them in sensible way and they are offended that somone dared to opose...
But here is a lot of reasonable guys whose judgement I would never question and if u made some mistake then accept it, learn from it and then behave the way that noone from those reasonable guys will give you negative karma again and if u will obtain negative karma from some douch who heals his sick mind on you then do not mind and take it with reserve...
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:49:58 AM
Thanks, paid money to this app and get condescending messages back, awesome work
Here's the thing. You paid for the APP, not access to the forums. You can access the forums even without the app. Expecting anything other than normal internet behavior on a forum is just silly. It's the internet. Get a thicker skin, or don't log in. It's that simple.
Quote from: prayos on March 26, 2013, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:49:58 AM
Thanks, paid money to this app and get condescending messages back, awesome work
Here's the thing. You paid for the APP, not access to the forums. You can access the forums even without the app. Expecting anything other than normal internet behavior on a forum is just silly. It's the internet. Get a thicker skin, or don't log in. It's that simple.
(https://imtgapp.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F141%2F644%2F7nTnr.png&hash=ec545892e9c2e337cd8c889d9382aabcdb848742)
The mods keep an eye on the karma. If it looks like someone is vigilantly trolling someone, we'll issue a warning to the offender. That is the purpose of us being able to see who gives karma. NOT for us to tell you who downvotes you so you can retaliate.
I don't even know why this thread is still being posted in. It seems the point has been made, and we are just beating a dead horse. We're not the golgari people. Just let it go
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on March 26, 2013, 01:49:53 PM
The mods keep an eye on the karma. If it looks like someone is vigilantly trolling someone, we'll issue a warning to the offender. That is the purpose of us being able to see who gives karma. NOT for us to tell you who downvotes you so you can retaliate.
I wanted what you just said to be done... That's exactly what I asked him to do...
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
I don't even know why this thread is still being posted in. It seems the point has been made, and we are just beating a dead horse. We're not the golgari people. Just let it go
One would think this statement is redundant and counterproductive :)
At least I was the subject on a topic...
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
I don't even know why this thread is still being posted in. It seems the point has been made, and we are just beating a dead horse. We're not the golgari people. Just let it go
I feel it's just a farce now
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: prayos on March 26, 2013, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
We're not the golgari people.
Speak for yourself...
huh?
He's golgari
i meant we don't have the powers the golgari do. We can't recycle dead things
I have abrupt decay, does that count?
I wonder how many down votes I can get
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: prayos on March 26, 2013, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
We're not the golgari people.
Speak for yourself...
huh?
He's golgari
i meant we don't have the powers the golgari do. We can't recycle dead things
I would disagree here, people are recycling dead things every single day all over the world...:P
Quote from: whitedrake on March 26, 2013, 02:03:02 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: prayos on March 26, 2013, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
We're not the golgari people.
Speak for yourself...
huh?
He's golgari
i meant we don't have the powers the golgari do. We can't recycle dead things
I would disagree here, people are recycling dead things every single day all over the world...:P
never mind. Ill just join in the madness...
So does that mean we have dragons with knowlage lust too :P
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
I wonder how many down votes I can get
Begin speaking of politica and religious views, youll see just how many
Have no idea about who and what you are talking about...:D
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
I wonder how many down votes I can get
Begin speaking of politica and religious views, youll see just how many
also, try to explain why you think this or that creature fits into this or that color
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
I wonder how many down votes I can get
Since karma was the original problem, I don't see how this matters. That's taking it from self-importance to borderline trolling. I'd advise you not to attempt that. People don't tend to like people who do things like that.
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
I wonder how many down votes I can get
Begin speaking of politica and religious views, youll see just how many
also, try to explain why you think this or that creature fits into this or that color
How long has it been since there was a black guy ion a magic card?
Too long
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
I wonder how many down votes I can get
Begin speaking of politica and religious views, youll see just how many
also, try to explain why you think this or that creature fits into this or that color
You stole my thunder.
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
Don't talk about religion on here you're going to lose karma
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
I don't even care what you think, I have faith and that's all I need. You can't scientifically disprove that
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
I don't even care what you think, I have faith and that's all I need. You can't scientifically disprove that
Well we can't scientifically disprove magic either but we know it's not real
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
I don't even care what you think, I have faith and that's all I need. You can't scientifically disprove that
Well we can't scientifically disprove magic either but we know it's not real
That's different dumbass, there's no huge following for magic (no pun intended), there's been generations of religious text
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
I don't even care what you think, I have faith and that's all I need. You can't scientifically disprove that
Well we can't scientifically disprove magic either but we know it's not real
That's different dumbass, there's no huge following for magic (no pun intended), there's been generations of religious text
I'm a dumbass because I don believe in something that defies logic?
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
I don't even care what you think, I have faith and that's all I need. You can't scientifically disprove that
Well we can't scientifically disprove magic either but we know it's not real
That's different dumbass, there's no huge following for magic (no pun intended), there's been generations of religious text
I'm a dumbass because I don believe in something that defies logic?
No you're a dumbass because what's the point of not believing, it's better to believe and be wrong than not believing and being wrong.
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
I don't even care what you think, I have faith and that's all I need. You can't scientifically disprove that
Well we can't scientifically disprove magic either but we know it's not real
That's different dumbass, there's no huge following for magic (no pun intended), there's been generations of religious text
I'm a dumbass because I don believe in something that defies logic?
No you're a dumbass because what's the point of not believing, it's better to believe and be wrong than not believing and being wrong.
Okay you can't even pull that card, what I'd there's another god out there, by your logic we should believe in every deity out there.
Can we just stop fighting and get on topic of why I'm a douche?
I want to delete this thread so bad but feel it would be a total abuse of power.
The responses in this thread sum up why having a negative, arrogant, and self-important attitude leads to down votes. If you truly don't care about karma, why bother even posting in a thread about it?
Self-reflection is important. Perhaps the majority have something important to say, and dismissing that without any contemplation and reflection is short-sighted at best, arrogant at worst.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on March 26, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
I want to delete this thread so bad but feel it would be a total abuse of power.
Haha I know, me too :P
Quote from: Silent1236 on March 26, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on March 26, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
I want to delete this thread so bad but feel it would be a total abuse of power.
Haha I know, me too :P
Pitor was the one who created it, so I see that as an affirmation that it belongs in this forum as a thread.
Who cares. Let him have his fun and reap what he sows. If it bothers you that much you can either -1 him or put him on your ignore list
Quote from: Barzini on March 26, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
Pitor was the one who created it, so I see that as an affirmation that it belongs in this forum as a thread.
Maybe the first couple pages, but it broke off into another beast altogether. That's more what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Silent1236 on March 26, 2013, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: Barzini on March 26, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
Pitor was the one who created it, so I see that as an affirmation that it belongs in this forum as a thread.
Maybe the first couple pages, but it broke off into another beast altogether. That's more what I'm talking about.
i was saying people needed to let it go early in the thread
I feel like I'm missing out on so much lately while I've been dealing with a family crisis. I want to say so many things here but I just don't have time right now, I need to get back to the hospital.
Quote from: Gorzo on March 26, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
I feel like I'm missing out on so much lately while I've been dealing with a family crisis. I want to say so many things here but I just don't have time right now, I need to get back to the hospital.
Oh no. I hope everything is okay! :(
Quote from: Moneekahh on March 26, 2013, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on March 26, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
I feel like I'm missing out on so much lately while I've been dealing with a family crisis. I want to say so many things here but I just don't have time right now, I need to get back to the hospital.
Oh no. I hope everything is okay! :(
Best of luck to you and your family. Let's all hope for the best.
Quote from: Gorzo on March 26, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
I feel like I'm missing out on so much lately while I've been dealing with a family crisis. I want to say so many things here but I just don't have time right now, I need to get back to the hospital.
Hope everything is well for you and your family, Gorzo. Send them my wishes.
We'll deal with the madness here, don't worry ;)
Quote from: Gorzo on March 26, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
I feel like I'm missing out on so much lately while I've been dealing with a family crisis. I want to say so many things here but I just don't have time right now, I need to get back to the hospital.
:( Hope things get better! Sorry to hear something is wrong :-\
Quote from: Gorzo on March 26, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
I feel like I'm missing out on so much lately while I've been dealing with a family crisis. I want to say so many things here but I just don't have time right now, I need to get back to the hospital.
hope they recover
Quote from: Barzini on March 26, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on March 26, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on March 26, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
I want to delete this thread so bad but feel it would be a total abuse of power.
Haha I know, me too :P
Pitor was the one who created it, so I see that as an affirmation that it belongs in this forum as a thread.
Please don't. Rather, it would be total abuse of power because we assume that people do not post or reply to have their posts deleted, they wouldn't want that done to them.
@Gorzo, all the best].
And just so I can put my two cents in, since I feel somewhat responsible for this whole mess.
When it comes down to it, us moderaters are respected by the community. People like us. When you openly call us half-assed, and then go on a karma related rampage of "please up vote me, mods suck", the community isn't going to respond lightly. Believe it or not, us mods are a part of the iMtG community; we're living, breathing people who like magic perhaps just a little too much. This is what draws us together.
Sure, we have power to regulate what's going on. I can delete your posts, or edit them, or whatever. I won't, for two reasons. This goes against law, and overall, maturity. As a moderater, I wish to be something that represents the better part of our community. The kind that doesn't overreact to karma hits, negative comments, etc. I'm just a member of iMtG that was deemed responsible enough to have power.
As a mod, I'm very proud of this community, as we stick together when challenged, and don't take lightly to our members being insulted. You insult one of us, you insult all of us. I thank you, in a way, however. You've given this forum a sense of chaos for the moment. These times are great for trying the worthiness of mods, and maturity of everyone else as a whole. Again, I'm proud of all of you.
You called yourself a hero earlier in this topic. Do not lie.
A true hero does not seek adulation.
I think I know how this got off topic though...humans are social beings and it is in our nature to socialize and have naturally wandering subjects. Because its boring talking about the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over an over and over and over and over and over
I know all those "and over"'s were extremely redundant. I'm using them to make a point
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
>complaining about karma
>de greentext outside of 4chainz
I'm guessing your a /v/irgin? What's your trip?
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 12:58:39 PM
Well yes, but if I did we wouldn't be having this interesting test of our little iMtG Law just now. I like escalating things, I'm a bit evil I think :D
And you did make it easy for me, I couldn't resist, sorry ;)
See, I can do anything I want on this forum. I created it and I can shut it down. The only thing which prevents me from doing 'anything' is the law which I obey the same as you promised to. Please obey it or you will be punished.
Saying your a bit evil, an saying you can do "anything" you want to your clientele base may not be the best thing. With the only thing stopping you is the rules of the forum which are your rules, what's not to stop you going all Animal Farm and altering them as you see fit. IMO you come off bad in this post.
I mean no disrespect but, I felt strongly enough to voice my opinion on this.
I do love the app and the forum.
Just because I said you seem {B} doesn't mean your evil. Just that you put yourself over others at times. MaRo said {B} isn't supposed to be evil. Just putting self over others. Although there are evil things in {B}
Oh god lets not bring the color wheel, religion, or god forbid fourchin into this. The kid got called out, just let him have his tantrum and stop responding yeah?
Slow clap
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
>complaining about karma
>de greentext outside of 4chainz
I'm guessing your a /v/irgin? What's your trip?
What do you mean? Is that rude or was intended as rude?
Quote from: Imdowd80 on March 26, 2013, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 12:58:39 PM
Well yes, but if I did we wouldn't be having this interesting test of our little iMtG Law just now. I like escalating things, I'm a bit evil I think :D
And you did make it easy for me, I couldn't resist, sorry ;)
See, I can do anything I want on this forum. I created it and I can shut it down. The only thing which prevents me from doing 'anything' is the law which I obey the same as you promised to. Please obey it or you will be punished.
Saying your a bit evil, an saying you can do "anything" you want to your clientele base may not be the best thing. With the only thing stopping you is the rules of the forum which are your rules, what's not to stop you going all Animal Farm and altering them as you see fit. IMO you come off bad in this post.
I mean no disrespect but, I felt strongly enough to voice my opinion on this.
I do love the app and the forum.
I created the law to contain* my evilness, I agreed not to change the law anymore and the commentary is now open for everyone to write. I cannot deny that I'm a bit evil.
* as in Soul Stone ;)
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
>complaining about karma
>de greentext outside of 4chainz
I'm guessing your a /v/irgin? What's your trip?
What do you mean? Is that rude or was intended as rude?
/v/irgins are what users of 4chans /v/ board call themselves. If he isn't from /v/ he'll probably go ballistic, as /v/ is a cesspool. If he is from /v/, he'll just s***post some more.
Quote from: Potticus on March 26, 2013, 04:08:12 PM
Because you post six times in a row in a thread complaining about losing karma and then you do stupid stuff like that.
I was being facetious, I was having a self argument, sorry you couldn't see the humor in that
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
>complaining about karma
>de greentext outside of 4chainz
I'm guessing your a /v/irgin? What's your trip?
What do you mean? Is that rude or was intended as rude?
It was intended to be spiteful yes
Quote from: Rass on March 26, 2013, 04:25:39 PM
Who cares. Let him have his fun and reap what he sows. If it bothers you that much you can either -1 him or put him on your ignore list
I haven't even been doing anything wrong to anyone else! What the .poo.???
Wow, so no one could see the humor in me having a self argument just to be silly. Everyone else is jumping on board and being I don't even know, what have I done to anyone else other than priotr? And that was resolved, we got over or little disagreement
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Rass on March 26, 2013, 04:25:39 PM
Who cares. Let him have his fun and reap what he sows. If it bothers you that much you can either -1 him or put him on your ignore list
I haven't even been doing anything wrong to anyone else! What the .poo.???
I never said you did. It's just to all the people getting up in arms about you. Why let someone who you don't know gat power over you to get you upset. It's almost as bad as arguing with the wall.
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 08:33:29 PM
Wow, so no one could see the humor in me having a self argument just to be silly. Everyone else is jumping on board and being I don't even know, what have I done to anyone else other than priotr? And that was resolved, we got over or little disagreement
Alright now you're just trolling. If you truly want the issue to be dropped and done with, stop posting in here. Stop posting about this anywhere. Move on bro, tel is about your recent pulls in the Pulls and Ponies, or give some advice on a deck. You want it dropped, then drop it.
Im dead 😭😂. If you can't handle people on THIS forum, then I fear for the rest of your Internet endeavors. Seriously, maybe hanging out on the webz isn't the best idea for you.
He seems... Like someone that gets pissed from one little tiny comment. Im dying 😂
Damn you Keyeto and you're fancy colors lol
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 08:42:24 PM
Damn you Keyeto and you're fancy colors lol
Just doing my duty 😎
Yup this guy reaks of /v/.
Quote from: Keyeto on March 26, 2013, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 08:42:24 PM
Damn you Keyeto and you're fancy colors lol
Just doing my duty 😎
Lol I was still first on that one. But as I thought, when two mods edit a post at the same time, last one wins. Foiled again! I'll get you Inspector Gadg- er Keyeto... 😕
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 08:46:35 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 26, 2013, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 08:42:24 PM
Damn you Keyeto and you're fancy colors lol
Just doing my duty 😎
Lol I was still first on that one. But as I thought, when two mods edit a post at the same time, last one wins. Foiled again! I'll get you Inspector Gadg- er Keyeto... 😕
This is the beginning of a mod war, it seems lol.
Haha naah. Just classic misdirection, from some unruly posters
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 08:51:07 PM
Haha naah. Just classic misdirection, from some unruly posters
Unruly indeed. People need to relax with the karma rampages.
Quote from: Keyeto on March 26, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 08:51:07 PM
Haha naah. Just classic misdirection, from some unruly posters
Unruly indeed. People need to relax with the karma rampages.
Word
Why is this getting so much attention? From what I've read it just seems like some kid spouting over nothing
Quote from: Oracle on March 26, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
Why is this getting so much attention? From what I've read it just seems like some kid spouting over nothing
It's a change from the typical post. It should have been nothing, and snowballed into an ugly 7 page monster. I think we're just kind of having fun with it at this point.
Quote from: Keyeto on March 26, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
Quote from: Oracle on March 26, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
Why is this getting so much attention? From what I've read it just seems like some kid spouting over nothing
It's a change from the typical post. It should have been nothing, and snowballed into an ugly 7 page monster. I think we're just kind of having fun with it at this point.
It seems kind of pointless...
I get the feeling this oracle fellow is our friend umbra, if not my bad but with a regesteation date of 30 mins ago it makes me wonder..
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 09:14:40 PM
I get the feeling this oracle fellow is our friend umbra, if not my bad but with a regesteation date of 30 mins ago it makes me wonder..
I'm not Umbra, sorry
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 09:14:40 PM
I get the feeling this oracle fellow is our friend umbra, if not my bad but with a regesteation date of 30 mins ago it makes me wonder..
And all his posts sound like Umbra
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It bothers me because it hurts my reliability in trading and answering questions. If I get downvoted too much I'll just make a new account, which is going to suck.
Hmmm
Lets leave our pitchforks and torches in the closet for now.
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 09:22:57 PM
Lets leave our pitchforks and torches in the closet for now.
Same ip address.
Don't make accusations based off circumstantial evidence guys. It never ends well for either party involved.
Quote from: Keyeto on March 26, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 09:22:57 PM
Lets leave our pitchforks and torches in the closet for now.
Same ip address.
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I don't have any emoji's for torches or pitchforks...
Ok. This thread was annoying. Now I'm laughing at how long its gone on. Think we can get it up to 27 pages? I hope not!
Quote from: Keyeto on March 26, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 09:22:57 PM
Lets leave our pitchforks and torches in the closet for now.
Same ip address.
Hahaha knew it, thanks keyeto. Maybe this thread should just be locked and marked what not to do if you want to join this nice community?
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
>complaining about karma
>de greentext outside of 4chainz
I'm guessing your a /v/irgin? What's your trip?
What do you mean? Is that rude or was intended as rude?
It was intended to be spiteful yes
What punishment do you want to deal?
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
>complaining about karma
>de greentext outside of 4chainz
I'm guessing your a /v/irgin? What's your trip?
What do you mean? Is that rude or was intended as rude?
It was intended to be spiteful yes
What punishment do you want to deal?
What's the point? I'm now officially the laughing stalk of this forum, feel like crap. Just drop it
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Don't make accusations based off circumstantial evidence guys. It never ends well for either party involved.
True story bro, but if you provide evidence by being rude to undeserving members of the forum, you are breaking the law.
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on March 26, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
I'd have 9000 karma if I didn't argue about religion.
>implying there's even an argument for religion to stand on
>complaining about karma
>de greentext outside of 4chainz
I'm guessing your a /v/irgin? What's your trip?
What do you mean? Is that rude or was intended as rude?
It was intended to be spiteful yes
What punishment do you want to deal?
What's the point? I'm now officially the laughing stalk of this forum, feel like crap. Just drop it
it will pass. Just learn from your mistake. Remember to be empathetic towards people
Piotr, don't let umbra troll more. /v/irgin is a term for people from an Internet user board called 4chan, specifically the board /v/. Each board has terms, there's even one for traditional games such as magic called /Tg/ and they call themselves elegan/Tg/entalmen or ca/Tg/irls. He meant nothing by it besides calling him out as a user of that board
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Don't make accusations based off circumstantial evidence guys. It never ends well for either party involved.
True story bro, but if you provide evidence by being rude to undeserving members of the forum, you are breaking the law.
I don't really care at this point I just want this post to be gone, "do not do to others what they would not want to be done to them".
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Don't make accusations based off circumstantial evidence guys. It never ends well for either party involved.
True story bro, but if you provide evidence by being rude to undeserving members of the forum, you are breaking the law.
I don't really care at this point I just want this post to be gone, "do not do to others what they would not want to be done to them".
remember your own advice next time
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Don't make accusations based off circumstantial evidence guys. It never ends well for either party involved.
True story bro, but if you provide evidence by being rude to undeserving members of the forum, you are breaking the law.
I don't really care at this point I just want this post to be gone, "do not do to others what they would not want to be done to them".
Then, like I said before, stop trolling your own self deprecating thread. If you truly want it dropped, it starts with you Umbra. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 09:39:33 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Don't make accusations based off circumstantial evidence guys. It never ends well for either party involved.
True story bro, but if you provide evidence by being rude to undeserving members of the forum, you are breaking the law.
I don't really care at this point I just want this post to be gone, "do not do to others what they would not want to be done to them".
remember your own advice next time
It's not advice, many people here today broke that rule here today, but like in the Geneva convention, the winning side deided what was justified which would not be me
Quote from: Hays413 on March 26, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: #noided on March 26, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Don't make accusations based off circumstantial evidence guys. It never ends well for either party involved.
True story bro, but if you provide evidence by being rude to undeserving members of the forum, you are breaking the law.
This will never be dropped, even if I didn't others will keep it going
I don't really care at this point I just want this post to be gone, "do not do to others what they would not want to be done to them".
Then, like I said before, stop trolling your own self deprecating thread. If you truly want it dropped, it starts with you Umbra. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Honestly, this should have stopped a while ago. You got negative karma, and wanted to know why, fine. You asked people to fix your karma (which I'm personally against, but whatever), and they did. Again, fine. People didnt think you deserved your current karma, and they brought it up. I noted your comment about it being "some random guy spamming." I told you it was me, and apologized if it upset you, told you I have nothing against you, and to enjoy your time here on iMtG. Your problem was solved. Instead of calling the mods half assed, and causing an uproar, you should have left it alone. At this point, you're digging your own grave, man. Shape up, and perhaps the community will forgive you. You'd be surprised at how nice we can really be.
The chicken or the egg?
I'm getting tired of this. Umbra, I'm going to say one last thing, and then I'm going to stop posting in this thread. And I am going to try to say it nicely
Please, please, please! Quit having a pitty party and let this go. This is getting ridiculous and has been dragged on far longer than need be. It seems to me at this point, that your just wanting attention and are leeching off of everyone else. Please stop this. It's annoying, and your karma is going to continue to drop if you don't LET THIS GO.
You talk about treating others the way you want to be treated. Well, your tourtreing me with your pitty party. Please stop. I'm tired of this
Now is everything resolved? Can we get back to normal life? This would be of better interest of us all.
Piotr is a hard working man. Umbra just said something and thus started a 9 page outburst.
We all should just take a break and let it all go.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"
False.
Words are some of the most painful things.
Please. All. Think about what you say.
Do unto others what you would want to be done to yourselves or what they would want to be done to them.
Quote from: The1337Magician on March 26, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Now is everything resolved? Can we get back to normal life? This would be of better interest of us all.
Piotr is a hard working man. Umbra just said something and thus started a 9 page outburst.
We all should just take a break and let it all go.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"
False.
Words are some of the most painful things.
Please. All. Think about what you say.
Do unto others what you would want to be done to yourselves or what they would want to be done to them.
I'm now going to follow the laws of mtg, I hope everyone else does as well
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Piotr, don't let umbra troll more. /v/irgin is a term for people from an Internet user board called 4chan, specifically the board /v/. Each board has terms, there's even one for traditional games such as magic called /Tg/ and they call themselves elegan/Tg/entalmen or ca/Tg/irls. He meant nothing by it besides calling him out as a user of that board
I have this statement from #noided: "If he isn't from /v/ he'll probably go ballistic, as /v/ is a cesspool." which I believe proves that the intent was to insult.
People have opinions about /v/ but I assure you, just calling him out as a member wasn't meant to insult him.
Quote from: Birdbrain on March 26, 2013, 09:49:40 PMPlease stop. I'm tired of this
Feel free to not enter this tread and to use Hide function.
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 10:00:35 PM
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Piotr, don't let umbra troll more. /v/irgin is a term for people from an Internet user board called 4chan, specifically the board /v/. Each board has terms, there's even one for traditional games such as magic called /Tg/ and they call themselves elegan/Tg/entalmen or ca/Tg/irls. He meant nothing by it besides calling him out as a user of that board
I have this statement from #noided
Translation?
Quote from: The1337Magician on March 26, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Piotr is a hard working man.
Do unto others what you would want to be done to yourselves or what they would want to be done to them.
I can't confirm this to be true, and this is not what the law says ;]
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 10:03:07 PM
People have opinions about /v/ but I assure you, just calling him out as a member wasn't meant to insult him.
When I publicly state that I think socialists are either thieves or morons, and then call you a socialist, did I not insult you?
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 10:08:30 PM
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 10:03:07 PM
People have opinions about /v/ but I assure you, just calling him out as a member wasn't meant to insult him.
When I publicly state that I think socialists are either thieves or morons, and then call you a socialist, did I not insult you?
Agreed
Alright, this is a whole can of worms I'm not willing to dive into, do as you see fit.
Is this the new "who ever gets the last post wins"
Seems so...
I think people are just trying to get to page 27 through unconventional means now...
A mod needs to lock (of delete) this topic. Its getting way too crazy, but as Piotr says deleting it is not a viable option, I suggest locking it from further posting.
Quote from: izik99 on March 26, 2013, 10:26:32 PM
A mod needs to lock (of delete) this topic. Its getting way too crazy, but as Piotr says deleting it is not a viable option, I suggest locking it from further posting.
It's not going to be locked. If you don't want to follow this train wreck of a thread, it can easily be scrolled past.
Why lock it? Let people express them self. Except for a few post there hasn't been much name calling. I believe people should have the freedom to post what they want. Yet there can be consequences from what they write but still let them express themselves.
Quote from: Oracle on March 26, 2013, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 09:14:40 PM
I get the feeling this oracle fellow is our friend umbra, if not my bad but with a regesteation date of 30 mins ago it makes me wonder..
I'm not Umbra, sorry
The fact that you both have the exact same IP address suggests otherwise, and that you broke iMtG law by lying and pulling this additional oracle stunt.
/fuelthefire
This is just silly at this point. I felt bad for you at first umbra, I really did, but after calling the whole community names and insinuating that we're all horrible people, you lost me. Let's just all cut our losses now and get along, yes? I'll make cake if it helps. Everyone likes cake right?
Quote from: Gorzo on March 26, 2013, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: Oracle on March 26, 2013, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 09:14:40 PM
I get the feeling this oracle fellow is our friend umbra, if not my bad but with a regesteation date of 30 mins ago it makes me wonder..
I'm not Umbra, sorry
The fact that you both have the exact same IP address suggests otherwise, and that you broke iMtG law by lying and pulling this additional oracle stunt.
/fuelthefire
This is just silly at this point. I felt bad for you at first umbra, I really did, but after calling the whole community names and insinuating that we're all horrible people, you lost me. Let's just all cut our losses now and get along, yes? I'll make cake if it helps. Everyone likes cake right?
*Expletive Deleted* YES!
Angel food cake? Lots of icing?
... Now I want cake. Damnit!
Quote from: Gorzo on March 26, 2013, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: Oracle on March 26, 2013, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: Vyse on March 26, 2013, 09:14:40 PM
I get the feeling this oracle fellow is our friend umbra, if not my bad but with a regesteation date of 30 mins ago it makes me wonder..
I'm not Umbra, sorry
The fact that you both have the exact same IP address suggests otherwise, and that you broke iMtG law by lying and pulling this additional oracle stunt.
/fuelthefire
This is just silly at this point. I felt bad for you at first umbra, I really did, but after calling the whole community names and insinuating that we're all horrible people, you lost me. Let's just all cut our losses now and get along, yes? I'll make cake if it helps. Everyone likes cake right?
What kind of cake?
I'm just letting go at this point, and to be fair I said most was okay with me.
O.o CAKE!!
That band sucks
Quote from: Rasser on March 26, 2013, 10:48:51 PM
O.o CAKE!!
That band sucks
My finances favorite band. 😔
Also: my fiancées favorite band.
Quote from: Piotr on March 26, 2013, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on March 26, 2013, 10:53:15 PM
Quote from: Rasser on March 26, 2013, 10:48:51 PM
O.o CAKE!!
That band sucks
My finances favorite band. 😔
Gotta love iOS autocorrection :P
It was a good day in life when I disabled it on my phone. No looking back.
Quote from: Rasser on March 26, 2013, 11:03:31 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on March 26, 2013, 10:53:15 PM
Quote from: Rasser on March 26, 2013, 10:48:51 PM
O.o CAKE!!
That band sucks
My finances favorite band. 😔
really! 😳 🎶Short skirt/long jacket🎶
Yeah they aren't that bad honestly. Listen to "hem of your garment", "alpha beta parking lot", or "love you madly" if you want. Although, judging by your icon, there's a chance you might hate it.
Cake. Like chocolate cake. .yummy. :)
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on March 26, 2013, 02:33:34 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 02:17:20 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on March 26, 2013, 02:15:28 PM
Too long
{Crovax, Ascendant Hero}
{Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir} comes to mind as the last printed.
2007, really?
{Echo Mage} is the newest that I can think of.
I read through 7 pages just to see if this conversation continued.
1:30 in the morning and I have to be up at 7 and i remember {Koth of the Hammer}.
I thought there was a zombie in the last block