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Title: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: The1337Magician on March 22, 2013, 12:54:53 PM
On the worst card thread, we were talking about  {Darksteel Relic}. However, you can have a 5/5 indestructible first turn. This is with  {Phylactery Lich}. First turn: {Swamp} {T} and then  {Dark Ritual}. Afterwards play  {Darksteel Relic} and  {Phylactery Lich}. Put the counter on the  {Darksteel Relic}. Is there any way for a better creature first turn.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on March 22, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
Lol yes.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: MisterJH on March 22, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
There are a million ways for a better creature lol. Pick like any huge creature ever, first turn {dark ritual} to {entomb} and {reanimate} it, boom.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Umbra on March 22, 2013, 04:10:31 PM
Oddly yes, swamp,  {Dark Ritual},  {Thoughtseize} or  {Pain // Suffering},  {Exhume} or  {Animate Dead}, or {Reanimate}, whatever creature you discarded, I.e.  {Pathrazer of Ulamog},  {Iona, Shield of Emeria}!  {Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur}
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Kareason on March 22, 2013, 08:23:53 PM
I a fault pulled this off once in a store tourney back in the day (before the big DCI push). {Swamp}, {Dark Ritual} x3, {Baron Sengir}. Not that impressive nowadays but was enough to make the other guy scoop then.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Dadforgame on March 23, 2013, 01:21:57 AM
Why drop a big creature when you can just flash hulk win on turn 1 ?
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Iandtormentor on March 23, 2013, 07:20:03 AM
T1
{Lotus Petal}
{Swamp}
{Dark Ritual}
Sac petal for blue
{Show and Tell} putting {Omniscience} onto the battle field then play  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}

20/2
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Fenster on March 23, 2013, 08:14:42 AM
{Lotus petal}
{dark ritual}
{dark depths}
{Vampire hexmage}
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on March 23, 2013, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: Fenster on March 23, 2013, 08:14:42 AM
{Lotus petal}
{dark ritual}
{dark depths}
{Vampire hexmage}
Hah! I love doing that to people in my EDH deck XD
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: MisterJH on March 23, 2013, 10:26:26 AM
Then {simian spirit guide} into an {assault strobe}!!!
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: The1337Magician on March 23, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
Best first hand ever. {Dark Ritual} {Dark Depths} {Lotus Petal} {Mox Diamond}  {Crimson Wisps} and some sort of land. First turn win.  {Vampire Hexmage} sooty forgot about that.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Bozo_Law on March 23, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
How about {Ancient Tomb} into {Lotus Petal} into {Show and Tell} playing {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}?
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: The1337Magician on March 23, 2013, 12:25:17 PM
But that doesn't kill them first turn. Maybe  {Serra Avatar}.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Fenster on March 23, 2013, 03:24:49 PM
Or Flash hulk.
Famous for a reason :P

But i guess its not first turn...
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Jackson get out on March 23, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: Kareason on March 22, 2013, 08:23:53 PM
I a fault pulled this off once in a store tourney back in the day (before the big DCI push). {Swamp}, {Dark Ritual} x3, {Baron Sengir}. Not that impressive nowadays but was enough to make the other guy scoop then.
That would only give you 7 mana because it would take 1 black to cast each dark ritual from the first.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: KulrathKnight on March 26, 2013, 02:51:50 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on March 23, 2013, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: Fenster on March 23, 2013, 08:14:42 AM
{Lotus petal}
{dark ritual}
{dark depths}
{Vampire hexmage}
Hah! I love doing that to people in my EDH deck XD

{Dark Depths} is banned in EDH.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Rpbarber on March 26, 2013, 06:37:31 AM
No it's not. Look at the legalities.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: KulrathKnight on March 26, 2013, 09:00:17 AM
Ah I stand corrected. My bad :P
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: Fenster on March 23, 2013, 08:14:42 AM
{Lotus petal}
{dark ritual}
{dark depths}
{Vampire hexmage}

Helloooooo nurse!
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Ieatfood7 on March 26, 2013, 11:25:04 AM
Dark ritual, ha! ;) that's fine if you want to be realistic.

Turn one. Island, black lotus for green,  {Channel} for 19, giving you (19)GU. Play and activate {Doubling Cube} to have (28)GGUU. Play and activate  {Filigree Sages} to untapped the cube. Repeat to double your mana infinitely. With your infinite mana,  {Slime Molding} and  {Lightning Greaves} gives you an infinite sized attacker.

You said biggest, not most reasonable;). If you have a simian spirit guide or other source of red, replace lightening greaves with  {Burst of Speed} and replace slime moulding with  {Gelatinous Genesis} for infinite infinite/infinite creatures.

Edit:  {Chromatic Sphere}. That's how you get the red mana without using up a card.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: MarduArrow on March 26, 2013, 12:10:29 PM
If we're being unrealistic i can top that; go second: opening hand-  {Mountain}  {Sol Ring} x2  {Black Lotus} x4 on draw step you get  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} play mountain, tap for sol ring, tap for sol ring 1 floating, play 4 lotuses, tap 2nd sol ring and use lotuses for a grand total of 15 mana, cast emrakul.

Taking this further, on the extra turn you get from emrakul you draw {Artillerize} swing with emrakul then tap sol rings and mountain to artillerize, end game
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Umbra on March 26, 2013, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: Ieatfood7 on March 26, 2013, 11:25:04 AM
Dark ritual, ha! ;) that's fine if you want to be realistic.

Turn one. Island, black lotus for green,  {Channel} for 19, giving you (19)GU. Play and activate {Doubling Cube} to have (28)GGUU. Play and activate  {Filigree Sages} to untapped the cube. Repeat to double your mana infinitely. With your infinite mana,  {Slime Molding} and  {Lightning Greaves} gives you an infinite sized attacker.

You said biggest, not most reasonable;). If you have a simian spirit guide or other source of red, replace lightening greaves with  {Burst of Speed} and replace slime moulding with  {Gelatinous Genesis} for infinite infinite/infinite creatures.

4x black lotus 20x moxx just for the giggles, play  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}  {Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre} {Second Sunrise} until you get what you need. Oh! And  {Urabrask the Hidden} to attack first turn.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 26, 2013, 02:25:39 PM
"players drop all combos listed"
My first turn, flip table and /nerdrage
Insane {howl} of anger
Trample through store knocking everything over
Walk out of store stating you are a legendary mythic creature with 40/40 and haste as you leave.
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: Harmon74 on March 26, 2013, 11:55:59 PM
Quote from: Jackson get out on March 23, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: Kareason on March 22, 2013, 08:23:53 PM
I a fault pulled this off once in a store tourney back in the day (before the big DCI push). {Swamp}, {Dark Ritual} x3, {Baron Sengir}. Not that impressive nowadays but was enough to make the other guy scoop then.
That would only give you 7 mana because it would take 1 black to cast each dark ritual from the first.
Doh! Lol
Title: Re: Largest First-Turn Creature
Post by: ibtrickey on April 11, 2013, 02:06:03 AM
Quote from: Dadforgame on March 23, 2013, 01:21:57 AM
Why drop a big creature when you can just flash hulk win on turn 1 ?
What do you mean??