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Title: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Umbra on March 19, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
Can someone please explain this to me that's in Layman's Terms how this combo works. To be more specific, why would a creature become exiled permanently as a result from cloudshifting/ restoration angel(ing?). Is it because the first Fiend hunter techibally ceased to exist but the first ability stacks? If so can someone explain that to me as well because I only half understand. Thank you.
Title: Re: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Keyeto on March 19, 2013, 04:09:27 PM
This comes down to triggers, and the stack.


Fiend Hunter has an enters the battlefield triggered ability and a leaves the battlefield triggered ability. When Fiend Hunter ETBs, its first triggered ability triggers. If you cause Fiend Hunter to LTB before the ETB ability resolves (by {Cloudshift} or otherwise), then the LTB ability will trigger and go onto the stack above the ETB ability. Then, there will be nothing for the LTB ability to return and no way for the creature the ETB ability exiles to be returned.

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Title: Re: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Umbra on March 19, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
Thanks for clarifying! I'm happy I can now explain it and not look like an idiot
Title: Re: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Keyeto on March 19, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 19, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
Thanks for clarifying! I'm happy I can now explain it and not look like an idiot
No problem! Glad to be of service 👍
Title: Re: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Hays413 on March 19, 2013, 08:48:54 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 19, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 19, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
Thanks for clarifying! I'm happy I can now explain it and not look like an idiot
No problem! Glad to be of service 👍

Man, I swear you're just sitting in the rules section refreshing the page every minute while you read the comprehensive rules and smoking a pipe surrounded by many leather bound books in an apartment smelling of rich mahogany.
Title: Re: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Keyeto on March 19, 2013, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on March 19, 2013, 08:48:54 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 19, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 19, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
Thanks for clarifying! I'm happy I can now explain it and not look like an idiot
No problem! Glad to be of service 👍

Man, I swear you're just sitting in the rules section refreshing the page every minute while you read the comprehensive rules and smoking a pipe surrounded by many leather bound books in an apartment smelling of rich mahogany.
How did you know......
Title: Re: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Hays413 on March 19, 2013, 08:54:12 PM
KNEW IT!
Title: Re: Fiend Hunter and Cloudshift/restoration angel
Post by: Umbra on March 20, 2013, 12:39:17 PM
He's like that lawyer that'll take any case no matter the circumstances. How long have you been playing magic?