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Title: Evolve
Post by: Younghawk on March 02, 2013, 08:46:07 AM
If I have  {Cloudfin Raptor} on the field and say 5 1/1 human tokens come into play at the same time will evolve trigger 5 times?
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: Fenster on March 02, 2013, 08:50:40 AM
I think its like this:
You play 5 1/1s at the same time through a spell or something.
Evolve triggers 5 times. When they resolve they check the p/t of cloudfin vs the 1/1.
Each resolution after cloudfins p/t has gone above 1 it wont do anything.

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Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: Empathie on March 02, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
At the end of it all resolving it will only evolve once and be a 1/2
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: Younghawk on March 02, 2013, 08:54:46 AM
Ok thank you all this means I'm not putting in  {Assemble the Legion} to try and uber pump my creatures
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: KILLERBEE on March 03, 2013, 07:25:31 PM
Quote from: Younghawk on March 02, 2013, 08:54:46 AM
Ok thank you all this means I'm not putting in  {Assemble the Legion} to try and uber pump my creatures
look into {Cathars Crusade}
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: KILLERBEE on March 03, 2013, 07:27:29 PM
I don't know about the evolve thing too much but crusade is great pumper upper
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 05, 2013, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: Empathie on March 02, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
At the end of it all resolving it will only evolve once and be a 1/2
Is this really how the mechanic works?

It says if the toughness or power is lower, add a +1/+1 counter. I haven't noticed anything that specifies to add only the power/toughness when only one is lower
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: Wally on March 05, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on March 05, 2013, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: Empathie on March 02, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
At the end of it all resolving it will only evolve once and be a 1/2
Is this really how the mechanic works?

It says if the toughness or power is lower, add a +1/+1 counter. I haven't noticed anything that specifies to add only the power/toughness when only one is lower

Since the entering creatures are 1/1 and the evolve creature is 0/1, only the first 1/1 creature trigger will result in a positive result, the rest will be neutral.
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: Baneslayer on March 05, 2013, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: Testset on March 05, 2013, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on March 05, 2013, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: Empathie on March 02, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
At the end of it all resolving it will only evolve once and be a 1/2
Is this really how the mechanic works?

It says if the toughness or power is lower, add a +1/+1 counter. I haven't noticed anything that specifies to add only the power/toughness when only one is lower

Triggers check once to put them onto the stack, then again upon resolution. After the first evolve trigger resolves, each subsequent one will check if the power or toughness is lower than the token before resolving. It isn't, and so is removed from the stack.
Agreed
Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 06, 2013, 04:20:42 AM
Quote from: Wally on March 05, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on March 05, 2013, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: Empathie on March 02, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
At the end of it all resolving it will only evolve once and be a 1/2
Is this really how the mechanic works?

It says if the toughness or power is lower, add a +1/+1 counter. I haven't noticed anything that specifies to add only the power/toughness when only one is lower

Since the entering creatures are 1/1 and the evolve creature is 0/1, only the first 1/1 creature trigger will result in a positive result, the rest will be neutral.
Oh I should have clarified my question as: Does evolve affect both P/T? And it seems yes, I thought I had read in a thread somewhere that only the lowered stat was raised, not both

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Title: Re: Evolve
Post by: Hays413 on March 06, 2013, 08:51:30 AM
702.98. Evolve
702.98a Evolve is a triggered ability. "Evolve" means "Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, if that creature's power is greater than this creature's power and/or that creature's toughness is greater than this creature's toughness, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature."
702.99b If a creature has multiple instances of evolve, each triggers separately.

Remember to only compare power to power and toughness to toughness.