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Title: Mono Black Control
Post by: Aladormax on February 27, 2013, 09:53:53 PM

Mono Black Control

60 cards, 0 sideboard


24 {Swamp}

24 lands


4 {Typhoid Rats}
4 {Blood Artist}
4 {Vampire Nighthawk}
2 {Shimian Specter}

14 creatures


3 {Duress}
4 {Sign in Blood}
2 {Mutilate}
2 {Underworld Connections}
2 {Liliana of the Veil}
3 {Appetite for Brains}
3 {Murder}
3 {Ultimate Price}

22 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
My first attempt at a mono black deck
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Aladormax on February 28, 2013, 06:51:22 AM
Looking for some advice as to how to fix this as it seems to me like it will need some help
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Wsuryanjeska on February 28, 2013, 04:11:46 PM
Replace all 4 murders with {victim of night}. It's an amazing kill spell, there are so few good cards that it can't hit. Also I suggest losing a swamp or 2, 24 is too many for a mono colored deck. And have you thought about liliana of the dark realms? I feel like she would be better then the veil in this deck
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Dadforgame on February 28, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
2 murders, 2 victim of the night ..4 griselbrand..turn 5 grisel is devastating .. If play 3 veil and 1 dark realms
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Wsuryanjeska on February 28, 2013, 05:29:10 PM
I say no murder at all. The only creatures you really need murder for are Huntmasters and Olivia, so it belongs in the sideboard. Why pay 3 mana when you can pay 2??? But I agree, grisle is a must, but in that case you want atleast 2 dark realms lilanas in case you don't get crypt ghast
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Byerley121 on February 28, 2013, 06:54:07 PM
I like  {Ultimate Price} but in mono black control victim of night and/or  {Tragic Slip} is better.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Wsuryanjeska on February 28, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
This is true, you should atleast 3 tragic slips as well
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Byerley121 on February 28, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
Instead of  {Typhoid Rats} look into  {Underworld Connections}. It's synchronization with extort is amazing.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Bman0121 on March 01, 2013, 07:32:36 AM
 {Mutilate} destroys every creature in standard right now
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Byerley121 on March 01, 2013, 07:46:00 AM
That's true
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Aladormax on March 01, 2013, 01:37:44 PM
Updated into a bump
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Wsuryanjeska on March 01, 2013, 02:46:14 PM
WHY are you still running murder?
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Iandtormentor on March 01, 2013, 02:51:53 PM
What if he disegrees?  You gave your opinion but he does not have to take it...
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Wsuryanjeska on March 01, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
I'm sorry, I just assumed that someone making a mono black deck for the first time ever would be open to the suggestions of winning players in the magic community, especially since he posted the deck on here. But then I realized that so many people on here don't even acknowledge good advice, so It's really just a waste of time to offer it in the in the first place. And with that, I'm done here.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Byerley121 on March 01, 2013, 03:34:13 PM
That escalated quickly.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Silent1236 on March 01, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on March 01, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
I'm sorry, I just assumed that someone making a mono black deck for the first time ever would be open to the suggestions of winning players in the magic community, especially since he posted the deck on here. But then I realized that so many people on here don't even acknowledge good advice, so It's really just a waste of time to offer it in the in the first place. And with that, I'm done here.

Calm down, man.  No need to get all pissy just because people possibly didn't take your advice ;). Maybe he sees lots of Jund at his at LGS. Maybe he just doesn't like victim of night. Maybe he just wants to run ultimate price. Or maybe he just doesn't give a damn how well you've done in your magical endeavors. 
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Silent1236 on March 01, 2013, 04:37:58 PM
I kinda agree with bravado; the tiniest amount of white could be pretty useful in the form of {Orzhov Charm}/{Lingering Souls} if nothing else.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Aladormax on March 01, 2013, 09:12:37 PM
First of all I want to thank everyone for their help, I do agree that I should splash another color, but funds are low at this point and I use what I have now. As to the murder thing I was unable to access the victims of night I have when I updated this so it was what it had to be. I did some major overhaul during fnm tonight and I like where it is going, but the deck is far from complete.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:40:48 AM
Quote from: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you.
Oooo you win? So does everyone here. Nothing that special.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Langku on March 25, 2013, 02:09:25 AM
Quote from: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you

Drewy, man, relax and read your gravitar. Say your piece, give your karma if you feel the need, but don't start a karma killing crusade. We all lose our cool sometimes but be the better man and keep yours.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Wally on March 25, 2013, 03:17:36 AM
I also cannot recommend  {Crypt Ghast} highly enough. He is awesome in my mono black heartless deck, (which you can find on here) and enables some really big plays for me. Take a peek and see if you get any ideas.
I need to tweak it a little more, but at the moment I've come in second two weeks in a row at Fnm, so it really does work.

That  {Night Terrors} looks like a card I could use in mine, I also find  {Black Cat} is hugely hated by everyone who sees it. (Unless the have no cards in hand). He creates massive stall against agro, also if you can pump him up, most people won't block it. Too afraid to bin a good card from their hand.
And of course when he does die, you can  {Tragic Slip} something awesome they have to make it hurt even more.
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: #noided on March 25, 2013, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on March 01, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
I'm sorry, I just assumed that someone making a mono black deck for the first time ever would be open to the suggestions of winning players in the magic community, especially since he posted the deck on here. But then I realized that so many people on here don't even acknowledge good advice, so It's really just a waste of time to offer it in the in the first place. And with that, I'm done here.

>winning magic players
>you

haha stahp I just found my sides the other day
Title: Re: Mono Black Control
Post by: Drewy on March 26, 2013, 02:17:57 AM
Quote from: Langku on March 25, 2013, 02:09:25 AM
Quote from: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you

Drewy, man, keep calm and read your gravitar. Say your piece, give your karma if you feel the need, but don't start a karma killing crusade. We all lose our cool sometimes but be the better man and keep yours.