24 {Swamp}
24 lands
4 {Typhoid Rats} 4 {Blood Artist} 4 {Vampire Nighthawk} 2 {Shimian Specter}
14 creatures
3 {Duress} 4 {Sign in Blood} 2 {Mutilate} 2 {Underworld Connections} 2 {Liliana of the Veil} 3 {Appetite for Brains} 3 {Murder} 3 {Ultimate Price}
22 other spells
Sideboard
Notes: My first attempt at a mono black deck
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Looking for some advice as to how to fix this as it seems to me like it will need some help
Replace all 4 murders with {victim of night}. It's an amazing kill spell, there are so few good cards that it can't hit. Also I suggest losing a swamp or 2, 24 is too many for a mono colored deck. And have you thought about liliana of the dark realms? I feel like she would be better then the veil in this deck
2 murders, 2 victim of the night ..4 griselbrand..turn 5 grisel is devastating .. If play 3 veil and 1 dark realms
I say no murder at all. The only creatures you really need murder for are Huntmasters and Olivia, so it belongs in the sideboard. Why pay 3 mana when you can pay 2??? But I agree, grisle is a must, but in that case you want atleast 2 dark realms lilanas in case you don't get crypt ghast
I like {Ultimate Price} but in mono black control victim of night and/or {Tragic Slip} is better.
This is true, you should atleast 3 tragic slips as well
Instead of {Typhoid Rats} look into {Underworld Connections}. It's synchronization with extort is amazing.
{Mutilate} destroys every creature in standard right now
That's true
Updated into a bump
WHY are you still running murder?
What if he disegrees? You gave your opinion but he does not have to take it...
I'm sorry, I just assumed that someone making a mono black deck for the first time ever would be open to the suggestions of winning players in the magic community, especially since he posted the deck on here. But then I realized that so many people on here don't even acknowledge good advice, so It's really just a waste of time to offer it in the in the first place. And with that, I'm done here.
That escalated quickly.
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on March 01, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
I'm sorry, I just assumed that someone making a mono black deck for the first time ever would be open to the suggestions of winning players in the magic community, especially since he posted the deck on here. But then I realized that so many people on here don't even acknowledge good advice, so It's really just a waste of time to offer it in the in the first place. And with that, I'm done here.
Calm down, man. No need to get all pissy just because people possibly didn't take your advice ;). Maybe he sees lots of Jund at his at LGS. Maybe he just doesn't like victim of night. Maybe he just wants to run ultimate price. Or maybe he just doesn't give a damn how well you've done in your magical endeavors.
I kinda agree with bravado; the tiniest amount of white could be pretty useful in the form of {Orzhov Charm}/{Lingering Souls} if nothing else.
First of all I want to thank everyone for their help, I do agree that I should splash another color, but funds are low at this point and I use what I have now. As to the murder thing I was unable to access the victims of night I have when I updated this so it was what it had to be. I did some major overhaul during fnm tonight and I like where it is going, but the deck is far from complete.
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you
Quote from: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you.
Oooo you win? So does everyone here. Nothing that special.
Quote from: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you
Drewy, man, relax and read your gravitar. Say your piece, give your karma if you feel the need, but don't start a karma killing crusade. We all lose our cool sometimes but be the better man and keep yours.
I also cannot recommend {Crypt Ghast} highly enough. He is awesome in my mono black heartless deck, (which you can find on here) and enables some really big plays for me. Take a peek and see if you get any ideas.
I need to tweak it a little more, but at the moment I've come in second two weeks in a row at Fnm, so it really does work.
That {Night Terrors} looks like a card I could use in mine, I also find {Black Cat} is hugely hated by everyone who sees it. (Unless the have no cards in hand). He creates massive stall against agro, also if you can pump him up, most people won't block it. Too afraid to bin a good card from their hand.
And of course when he does die, you can {Tragic Slip} something awesome they have to make it hurt even more.
Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on March 01, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
I'm sorry, I just assumed that someone making a mono black deck for the first time ever would be open to the suggestions of winning players in the magic community, especially since he posted the deck on here. But then I realized that so many people on here don't even acknowledge good advice, so It's really just a waste of time to offer it in the in the first place. And with that, I'm done here.
>winning magic players
>you
haha stahp I just found my sides the other day
Quote from: Langku on March 25, 2013, 02:09:25 AM
Quote from: Drewy on March 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Wow man, shutup, just because he didnt take out the murders like you told him to. I like murder there, i also like splash white. I, as well as many people here, dont want u here so go away and dont come back. -1 karma every day for the rest of the month for you
Drewy, man, keep calm and read your gravitar. Say your piece, give your karma if you feel the need, but don't start a karma killing crusade. We all lose our cool sometimes but be the better man and keep yours.