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Show And Tell 60 cards, 0 sideboard 3 {City of Traitors} 3 {Ancient Tomb} 2 {Island} 3 {Volcanic Island} 1 {Mountain} 4 {Misty Rainforest} 4 {Scalding Tarn} 20 lands 4 {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} 4 {Griselbrand} 8 creatures 4 {Force of Will} 4 {Brainstorm} 4 {Ponder} 4 {Lotus Petal} 4 {Sneak Attack} 3 {Spell Pierce} 2 {Misdirection} 2 {Flusterstorm} 1 {Intuition} 4 {Show and Tell} 32 other spells Sideboard Notes: This is my first legacy deck and finally got all the cards together! I'm very excited for it. I'm new to the format and would like some help with my side board. Would love to hear about main board and any changes I should make! Thanks for looking!

Congrats! I play a similar deck and for tha main board is more or less the same.

For sideboard, depending on the meta red elemental blast, blood moon for starters

 {Omniscience} and  {Enter the Infinite} would be sweet because you could cast your emrakul and get the extra turn to swing and win plus you could play another one on your second turn legend rule them out then cast a third one and get another turn And depending on how many  {Enter the Infinite} you put in the deck you can keep foing this process

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 24, 2013, 11:34:30 AM
{Omniscience} and  {Enter the Infinite} would be sweet because you could cast your emrakul and get the extra turn to swing and win plus you could play another one on your second turn legend rule them out then cast a third one and get another turn And depending on how many  {Enter the Infinite} you put in the deck you can keep foing this process

You will never get to the point when u could play  {Omniscience} in Legacy format... You have mostly 5 turns in maximum...

Quote from: whitedrake on February 24, 2013, 11:47:33 AM

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 24, 2013, 11:34:30 AM
{Omniscience} and  {Enter the Infinite} would be sweet because you could cast your emrakul and get the extra turn to swing and win plus you could play another one on your second turn legend rule them out then cast a third one and get another turn And depending on how many  {Enter the Infinite} you put in the deck you can keep foing this process

You will never get to the point when u could play  {Omniscience} in Legacy format... You have mostly 5 turns in maximum...

That's why you cheat it into play with {Show and Tell}.

Quote from: Gummuh on February 24, 2013, 11:54:00 AM

Quote from: whitedrake on February 24, 2013, 11:47:33 AM

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 24, 2013, 11:34:30 AM
{Omniscience} and  {Enter the Infinite} would be sweet because you could cast your emrakul and get the extra turn to swing and win plus you could play another one on your second turn legend rule them out then cast a third one and get another turn And depending on how many  {Enter the Infinite} you put in the deck you can keep foing this process

You will never get to the point when u could play  {Omniscience} in Legacy format... You have mostly 5 turns in maximum...

That's why you cheat it into play with {Show and Tell}.

Oh why to use it for omni if I can put Spaghetti man to play?? I get partly the advantage... But it would be dead card in this deck... U do not need to complicate the way how to get bomb on board...

Quote from: whitedrake on February 24, 2013, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: Gummuh on February 24, 2013, 11:54:00 AM

Quote from: whitedrake on February 24, 2013, 11:47:33 AM

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 24, 2013, 11:34:30 AM
{Omniscience} and  {Enter the Infinite} would be sweet because you could cast your emrakul and get the extra turn to swing and win plus you could play another one on your second turn legend rule them out then cast a third one and get another turn And depending on how many  {Enter the Infinite} you put in the deck you can keep foing this process

You will never get to the point when u could play  {Omniscience} in Legacy format... You have mostly 5 turns in maximum...

That's why you cheat it into play with {Show and Tell}.

Oh why to use it for omni if I can put Spaghetti man to play?? I get partly the advantage... But it would be dead card in this deck... U do not need to complicate the way how to get bomb on board...

The difference is if you play  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} using  {Show and Tell} you don't get the extra turn. If you play  {Omniscience} off your  {Show and Tell} you can play anything else in your hand for free...  {Griselbrand}, draw 7 cards, then Emmy, then whatever else you want to get the win.

Quote from: Falcon182 on February 24, 2013, 01:35:05 PM

Quote from: whitedrake on February 24, 2013, 12:00:17 PM

Quote from: Gummuh on February 24, 2013, 11:54:00 AM

Quote from: whitedrake on February 24, 2013, 11:47:33 AM

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 24, 2013, 11:34:30 AM
{Omniscience} and  {Enter the Infinite} would be sweet because you could cast your emrakul and get the extra turn to swing and win plus you could play another one on your second turn legend rule them out then cast a third one and get another turn And depending on how many  {Enter the Infinite} you put in the deck you can keep foing this process

You will never get to the point when u could play  {Omniscience} in Legacy format... You have mostly 5 turns in maximum...

That's why you cheat it into play with {Show and Tell}.

Oh why to use it for omni if I can put Spaghetti man to play?? I get partly the advantage... But it would be dead card in this deck... U do not need to complicate the way how to get bomb on board...

The difference is if you play  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} using  {Show and Tell} you don't get the extra turn. If you play  {Omniscience} off your  {Show and Tell} you can play anything else in your hand for free...  {Griselbrand}, draw 7 cards, then Emmy, then whatever else you want to get the win.

I get the difference...;) thats the reason why he has there also  {Sneak Attack}...;)

The problem is that u would have to have 3 certain cards in hand to have it valueable... Mostly u will not have opportunity to play it that way... And that is the reason why omni is dead card... I would better to play emrakul with no extra turn than prey for a good constellation...;)

It's really nice to hear both of your thoughts. I have to side with white drake. Turn 5 in this format and the game is

Over*. My friends can go off turn 1-2. And just nothing to do. I don't feel like I have room the main board for those cards. I can't waste my time with playing that.

Quote from: Ejazz00 on February 24, 2013, 03:35:16 PM
Over*. My friends can go off turn 1-2. And just nothing to do. I don't feel like I have room the main board for those cards. I can't waste my time with playing that.

Herp derp you show and tell on turn turn 2 with  {Lotus Petal} cast  {Omniscience}, cast  {Enter the Infinite} then cast  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} get the extra turn kill them on turn 2 rather than you  {Show and Tell} into  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} then on your opponents turn it gets  {Oblivion Ring}, or  {Karakas} then you lose

It's different strategies. I'd do it with  {Omniscience} cutting  {Sneak Attack} but that's why everyone can make their own decks!

Quote from: Falcon182 on February 24, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
It's different strategies. I'd do it with  {Omniscience} cutting  {Sneak Attack} but that's why everyone can make their own decks!

Exactly...;) I can only agree with this...:)

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 24, 2013, 04:31:47 PM

Quote from: Ejazz00 on February 24, 2013, 03:35:16 PM
Over*. My friends can go off turn 1-2. And just nothing to do. I don't feel like I have room the main board for those cards. I can't waste my time with playing that.

Herp derp you show and tell on turn turn 2 with  {Lotus Petal} cast  {Omniscience}, cast  {Enter the Infinite} then cast  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} get the extra turn kill them on turn 2 rather than you  {Show and Tell} into  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} then on your opponents turn it gets  {Oblivion Ring}, or  {Karakas} then you lose

That's exactly what am I talking about... U need 4 cards turn two to make it work... The possibility of that to happen is what? 1:100?

With every single turn ur chances are better but... If u need 4 cards from 7 to play this then opponent will easily stop u by force, Daze or another spell and u will not have possibly answer... And what then?

I mean there is a reason omnitell is a deck. There are a ton of people who play and have pne with  {Omniscience}

Show and tell decks never really top 8 at scg opens unless it omnitell

Quote from: Bman0121 on February 25, 2013, 08:59:05 AM
Show and tell decks never really top 8 at scg opens unless it omnitell

Mhmm I guess it is the same as with other "fast combo decks" in legacy... It works on basis: Hit or loose...

Am glad for my Maverick build...:D

What I see anyone else failed to mention is that with omniscience and burning with you have an instant kill which give the deck yet another win condition that doesn't ever require the attack step.  Burning wish for petals of insight, cast if for free over and over pretty much allowing you to stack any three cards on top of your deck as long as its total number is not divisible by 3. You want to try to go for (1 burning wish, 1 force of will(if you have a blue card in hand which is likely) and a flutterstorm), if it is, just make sure you cast it at least 10 times to up the storm count, and then make sure burning wish is within the 3 cards, finally draw your three cards, cast burning wish searching for tendrils of agony and then cast tendrils for a storm count of >10 and instantly win.
Omniscience also allows you to later go off if for some reason you fail to do so right at the show and tell casting.  With all of your brainstorms, ponders, and other cantrips being free in addition to your griselbrand, you will be able to pretty much pick and choose the cards you draw and play from that point on.
I hope this helps you guys a little, I've tipped a couple of opens with omnitell, and once with my new peck deck the omni halls deck which combines dream halls with show and tell.