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Title: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 23, 2013, 09:07:58 PM
So trade values: do you go low avg or high?

Sell values: same dealio.

I go high with trade
Avg with Sell

I rarely use low unless the card is in Good condition or lower grade.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: xStrayKnightx on February 23, 2013, 09:09:04 PM
I use high value in trades. I've not sold cards before, so I'm indifferent to the idea.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Greg54js on February 23, 2013, 11:14:11 PM
general rule of thumb here is to go by the average price. most users here do and if you try and trade using the high value you'll find very few takers
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: All-Mana Mania on February 24, 2013, 12:03:12 AM
Sometimes i use star city because sometimes these prices are way different lol
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Silent1236 on February 24, 2013, 03:08:49 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on February 23, 2013, 11:14:11 PM
general rule of thumb here is to go by the average price. most users here do and if you try and trade using the high value you'll find very few takers

Yep yep

I rarely trade with people who go by high.  A lot of times the high is pointlessly high and makes for a kinda  trade for one party.  Average prices are fair and keep peace. 
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Moneekahh on February 24, 2013, 03:52:30 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on February 24, 2013, 03:08:49 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on February 23, 2013, 11:14:11 PM
general rule of thumb here is to go by the average price. most users here do and if you try and trade using the high value you'll find very few takers

Yep yep

I rarely trade with people who go by high.  A lot of times the high is pointlessly high and makes for a kinda  trade for one party.  Average prices are fair and keep peace.

Agree. If someone isn't going by mid price, I probably won't be trading with them!
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Xaol on February 24, 2013, 07:50:39 AM
I use TCG mid price for trades, 65% of SCG when selling.
Easiest way to check prices (I find this app can be inaccurate with pricing) is the app Orcish. Prices are always up to date and load fast.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: PupEnk on November 07, 2015, 01:55:58 AM
Great topic! Bumping it for sure.

I recently got screwed around as a trader was demanding I ask for low, but take their high.
In another trade, I used express shipping (sent mine first, obviously) and asked them to do the same, they did not to save on postage & I received the cards almost 2 monthes later.

I always do Mid, whether it's trading or selling. I ask the same, as it keeps it fair.
Unless the card is NM & Foil, I don't see the point in paying a huge amount more & I often find the swing difference in amount can be quite large.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Kaylesh on November 07, 2015, 08:03:35 AM
High can be manipulated by putting a card up for sale for a crazy price. Mid seems way more reliable. In the end, it's always good to check for yourself: do I like this trade? That's what counts in the end, that both parties feel good.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Falcon182 on November 07, 2015, 10:19:40 AM
Yeah. Don't let anyone bully you into a trade you're not comfortable with.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: MtgCollector1337 on November 07, 2015, 10:55:33 AM
>necro
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Kaylesh on November 07, 2015, 11:43:49 AM
Quote from: MtgCollector1337 on November 07, 2015, 10:55:33 AM
>necro
Yet still a valid discussion.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on November 07, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
I generally operate on the principle that TCG low by definition is how much I can get a card for at any given time by simply going to TCGplayer. Therefore, I have no incentive to do business with anyone else unless the deal is the same or better. Obviously condition of cards needs to be considered as well but you can filter that at TCGplayer. When I sell cards I always sell at slightly less than TCG low price, otherwise what incentive does anyone have to do business with me instead of an actual company that has a better reputation and is more trustworthy to the average customer? When trading it doesnt matter to me what we use, as long as both sides use the same benchmark.

And while we are on the topic, i really dont care if im getting $47 worth of cards and you are getting $51 worth of cards. If we are both getting what we want and it works out in the same neighbourhood im happy. And if it bothers you that much then next time we trade you can let me have a slightly better deal. As long as no one is getting ripped off its all fine woth me. There is no need to throw in a handful of basic lands to get the deal 'even' :)
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on November 07, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on November 07, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
I generally operate on the principle that TCG low by definition is how much I can get a card for at any given time by simply going to TCGplayer. Therefore, I have no incentive to do business with anyone else unless the deal is the same or better. Obviously condition of cards needs to be considered as well but you can filter that at TCGplayer. When I sell cards I always sell at slightly less than TCG low price, otherwise what incentive does anyone have to do business with me instead of an actual company that has a better reputation and is more trustworthy to the average customer? When trading it doesnt matter to me what we use, as long as both sides use the same benchmark.

And while we are on the topic, i really dont care if im getting $47 worth of cards and you are getting $51 worth of cards. If we are both getting what we want and it works out in the same neighbourhood im happy. And if it bothers you that much then next time we trade you can let me have a slightly better deal. As long as no one is getting ripped off its all fine woth me. There is no need to throw in a handful of basic lands to get the deal 'even' :)

Shipping is the incentive and generally play.

I would rarely - never sell below tcg low
Tcg low is the lowest I would sell, especially in person
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on November 07, 2015, 10:08:19 PM
What I will do is, the more in cash someone is buying from me, I start dropping the price

So I sell my {polluted delta} 's at 24$

If you buy four
Chances are I'll sell them for 22$

You buy 8 it's going to be more like 20$

Okay they've gone down but in any case that's a good example
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on November 07, 2015, 10:11:06 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on November 07, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on November 07, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
I generally operate on the principle that TCG low by definition is how much I can get a card for at any given time by simply going to TCGplayer. Therefore, I have no incentive to do business with anyone else unless the deal is the same or better. Obviously condition of cards needs to be considered as well but you can filter that at TCGplayer. When I sell cards I always sell at slightly less than TCG low price, otherwise what incentive does anyone have to do business with me instead of an actual company that has a better reputation and is more trustworthy to the average customer? When trading it doesnt matter to me what we use, as long as both sides use the same benchmark.

And while we are on the topic, i really dont care if im getting $47 worth of cards and you are getting $51 worth of cards. If we are both getting what we want and it works out in the same neighbourhood im happy. And if it bothers you that much then next time we trade you can let me have a slightly better deal. As long as no one is getting ripped off its all fine woth me. There is no need to throw in a handful of basic lands to get the deal 'even' :)

Shipping is the incentive and generally play.

I would rarely - never sell below tcg low
Tcg low is the lowest I would sell, especially in person

True, but if you are in america it is rare that the difference in shipping will be anything more than negligible. And the higher the value of cards the less impact shipping has. I just think that to get me to deviate from a store you need to give me a reason to. Which is why i sell at slightly below tcg low. Gives the other person a deal, otherwise they would be better off shopping at a store, where they are guaranteed to get what they pay for, one way or another.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on November 07, 2015, 10:18:16 PM
But stores usually sell at tcg mid or higher.

Plus I've heard when you buy at tcg low generally you have no idea what quality your getting

I mean I've heard you can get some sweet deals but.. It's risky.

No where other than tcg sells at tcg low if they are one of the more valued stores and their reputation precedes that.

But you know what your getting. Plus generally most stores charge more for shipping than it actually costs to ship something.

And if you PayPal me, you literally have nothing in shipping.

Also, my incentive is my word. You confirm your buying from me, I lock the price immediately, there is no need to worry about price fluctuation when your still working out the deal.

That's why I have an incredible amount of repeat customers.

I've sold over khans 60 fetches in the last 2 months.

I'm meeting a dude wed and thurs to pick up another batch of money from
2 guys who have bought a full set.

But I didn't make make them pay me the full amount up front. And I locked the price for them.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on November 08, 2015, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on November 07, 2015, 10:18:16 PM
But stores usually sell at tcg mid or higher.

Plus I've heard when you buy at tcg low generally you have no idea what quality your getting

I mean I've heard you can get some sweet deals but.. It's risky.

No where other than tcg sells at tcg low if they are one of the more valued stores and their reputation precedes that.

But you know what your getting. Plus generally most stores charge more for shipping than it actually costs to ship something.

And if you PayPal me, you literally have nothing in shipping.

Also, my incentive is my word. You confirm your buying from me, I lock the price immediately, there is no need to worry about price fluctuation when your still working out the deal.

That's why I have an incredible amount of repeat customers.

I've sold over khans 60 fetches in the last 2 months.

I'm meeting a dude wed and thurs to pick up another batch of money from
2 guys who have bought a full set.

But I didn't make make them pay me the full amount up front. And I locked the price for them.

Im not saying your way is bad in any way, im just saying I prefer my method when it comes to selling, and when it comes to buying chances are I will find a better deal somewhere else. In which case I will take it, but that doesnt reflect on you in any way.
Title: Re: What value do you go by for trades/selling?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on November 08, 2015, 02:32:59 AM
Your good  didn't think that but yeah I get you