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Title: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 23, 2013, 08:03:28 PM
One day. I tried to download something. Walked away from my computer. And when I came back, realized it had downloaded something else...at first. My ability to download stuff when down the drain. Then, my computer had to do a start up fix every time I wanted to log onto it. And now, it won't do it at all and I'm having to fix my computer through the dell data safe backup.

In the area were you can select the files to save. There are ones with a bunch of random letters and numbers. Then when I click on those, there's a bunch of ones that say 1025, 1028, and other crap like that. And when I click on those. It has eula.rtf and localizeddata.xml. Should I delete those? Or should I leave them? I'm not a computer expert
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Juggalonoke on February 23, 2013, 09:29:43 PM
If it keeps persisting its probibly a virus and you should just clean swipe your computer (delete everything even the operating system) and reinstall windows if that's an option for you
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 23, 2013, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on February 23, 2013, 09:29:43 PM
If it keeps persisting its probibly a virus and you should just clean swipe your computer (delete everything even the operating system) and reinstall windows if that's an option for you
and put all the stuff I want to save like stories I've written onto a flash drive
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 23, 2013, 09:43:23 PM
I just have too much stuff on here to do that...
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Gorzo on February 23, 2013, 09:48:02 PM
Are you running windows or Mac? If windows, google the following programs for your safety and run them - they are all you really need to keep a home pc clean.

{Microsoft Security Essentials} (the link will be Microsoft.com - don't go anywhere but Microsoft to get this)

{CCleaner} - yes, 2 C's. This program cleans up lots of junk that slows pcs down, from registry errors to old cache and purges temp folders and other places that cause slow-downs and where bugs sometimes hide. Website is piriform.com

Both of these are free and do a great job, been using them for years.

Also if you use google chrome as your Internet browser, get the {AdBlock} plugin. Not only does it stop annoying ads, but it stops the ad servers that have been infected from dropping that virus on you.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 23, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 23, 2013, 09:48:02 PM
Are you running windows or Mac? If windows, google the following programs for your safety and run them - they are all you really need to keep a home pc clean.

{Microsoft Security Essentials} (the link will be Microsoft.com - don't go anywhere but Microsoft to get this)

{CCleaner} - yes, 2 C's. This program cleans up lots of junk that slows pcs down, from registry errors to old cache and purges temp folders and other places that cause slow-downs and where bugs sometimes hide. Website is piriform.com

Both of these are free and do a great job, been using them for years.

Also if you use google chrome as your Internet browser, get the {AdBlock} plugin. Not only does it stop annoying ads, but it stops the ad servers that have been infected from dropping that virus on you.
thanks a lot. I'll give you plus one when I can again
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Gorzo on February 23, 2013, 09:55:09 PM
Any time, hopefully your problem gets fixed with no issues. Security essentials should take care of it. Let me know if the problem persists even after running both.

Just a heads up on a ccleaner - it will wipe temporary data, including Internet history, recently used programs, etc, unless you run through the programs list and uncheck what to keep manually.  No saved data or bookmarks will be lost or anything, just make sure everything is saved/backed up first.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 23, 2013, 10:23:11 PM
I essentially backed up my files and restarted. It works now, but the Internet is slow as heck now. And I can't really get to any sites. So I'm going to look into what you recommended
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Bozo_Law on February 24, 2013, 07:38:16 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 23, 2013, 10:23:11 PM
I essentially backed up my files and restarted. It works now, but the Internet is slow as heck now. And I can't really get to any sites. So I'm going to look into what you recommended

Because your cache is cleared.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 07:53:41 AM
Why would that slow down my Internet speed?
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Keyeto on February 24, 2013, 08:09:48 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 07:53:41 AM
Why would that slow down my Internet speed?
The cache basically stores the information of the websites you've visited, so it doesn't have to load all the information everytime. Deleting your cache could potentially slow down how fast website load, as long as they're websites you've visited before. On the other hand, it's good to delete your cache every once in a while, since all that stored data can start taking up space and slow things down. It's kind of a picky thing, really.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on February 24, 2013, 08:09:48 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 07:53:41 AM
Why would that slow down my Internet speed?
The cache basically stores the information of the websites you've visited, so it doesn't have to load all the information everytime. Deleting your cache could potentially slow down how fast website load, as long as they're websites you've visited before. On the other hand, it's good to delete your cache every once in a while, since all that stored data can start taking up space and slow things down. It's kind of a picky thing, really.
well if not having the cache slows it down how do I get it back?

Edit: if its slowing it down on the websites I've visited then obviously it's still stored somewhere on my computer
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Xaol on February 24, 2013, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on February 24, 2013, 08:09:48 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 07:53:41 AM
Why would that slow down my Internet speed?
The cache basically stores the information of the websites you've visited, so it doesn't have to load all the information everytime. Deleting your cache could potentially slow down how fast website load, as long as they're websites you've visited before. On the other hand, it's good to delete your cache every once in a while, since all that stored data can start taking up space and slow things down. It's kind of a picky thing, really.
well if not having the cache slows it down how do I get it back?

Edit: if its slowing it down on the websites I've visited then obviously it's still stored somewhere on my computer
What? You can't just get the cache back. You'll have to revisit those websites in order to do so.
If it's slowing down on websites you've visited, that indicates moreso that your cache has been cleared.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
Why would it only slow down website I've visited and not websites I haven't visited if the cache wasn't stored somewhere? How does it slow down only websites I've visited?
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Xaol on February 24, 2013, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
Why would it only slow down website I've visited and not websites I haven't visited if the cache wasn't stored somewhere? How does it slow down only websites I've visited?
Cache doesn't slow down the sites you've visited. It speeds up the time it takes for those sites to load, because it saves data on those sites for next time. When the cache is cleared, it deletes that saved data.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: #noided on February 24, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
When you visit a webpage, its data is stored in the cache so that the website will load faster the next time you visit it. If you've never visited a site, the will be no data cached.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Keyeto on February 24, 2013, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
Why would it only slow down website I've visited and not websites I haven't visited if the cache wasn't stored somewhere? How does it slow down only websites I've visited?
It shouldn't slow down the ones you haven't visited. When you visit a website, the page information is stored on your computer, and that's basically the cache. This helps speed up the process when revisiting those sites, as the page information is already on your computer. When the cache is cleared, you no longer have that information anymore, and will have to fully load the page again, when revisiting them for the first time. This makes it seem slower. Because the cache is only information of sites you've visited, it won't have any effect on those you haven't. When I said it could slow things down, I meant it in a general sense. If there's too much information on a computer that isn't being used, it can slow it down, and the cache can start to do that if left unattended for too long.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 09:19:21 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on February 24, 2013, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
Why would it only slow down website I've visited and not websites I haven't visited if the cache wasn't stored somewhere? How does it slow down only websites I've visited?
It shouldn't slow down the ones you haven't visited. When you visit a website, the page information is stored on your computer, and that's basically the cache. This helps speed up the process when revisiting those sites, as the page information is already on your computer. When the cache is cleared, you no longer have that information anymore, and will have to fully load the page again, when revisiting them for the first time. This makes it seem slower. Because the cache is only information of sites you've visited, it won't have any effect on those you haven't. When I said it could slow things down, I meant it in a general sense. If there's too much information on a computer that isn't being used, it can slow it down, and the cache can start to do that if left unattended for too long.
ah. I see
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Wally on February 24, 2013, 04:44:57 PM
If you are still having to do a repair every time you boot, try doing a windows restore, picking a restore point before the first trouble download happened.
It will effectively uninstall any programs that you may have installed since.

I also recommend Microsoft security essentials. It's great, free, and uses the same virus definitions that are used for their fully fledged corporate package Microsoft forefront.
(Which is great!)

CCleaner (otherwise known as crap cleaner) is also fantastic. Highly recommend this also.

If for some reason you are still having major issues, there is a little program that is devastatingly brutal at removing virus' but I won't mention it yet until it is necessary, as to avoid further issues. It will severely hammer your computer, removing anything that may be suspect, but often removing some good stuff in the process.

Please pm me if you need this as I'd hate you to hamper your progress by running this program unnecessarily.
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: Wally on February 24, 2013, 04:44:57 PM
If you are still having to do a repair every time you boot, try doing a windows restore, picking a restore point before the first trouble download happened.
It will effectively uninstall any programs that you may have installed since.

I also recommend Microsoft security essentials. It's great, free, and uses the same virus definitions that are used for their fully fledged corporate package Microsoft forefront.
(Which is great!)

CCleaner (otherwise known as crap cleaner) is also fantastic. Highly recommend this also.

If for some reason you are still having major issues, there is a little program that is devastatingly brutal at removing virus' but I won't mention it yet until it is necessary, as to avoid further issues. It will severely hammer your computer, removing anything that may be suspect, but often removing some good stuff in the process.

Please pm me if you need this as I'd hate you to hamper your progress by running this program unnecessarily.
i did the restore and it didn't work. I had to backup all my files and reset my computer...
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: #noided on February 24, 2013, 04:58:48 PM
What exactly were you downloading in the first place?
Title: Re: Does this sound like a virus
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2013, 04:59:48 PM
I was trying to download a super mario editor so I could make my own mario game