Dimir Mill
60 cards, 0 sideboard
2 {Nephalia Drownyard}
4 {Drowned Catacomb}
4 {Watery Grave}
4 {Glacial Fortress}
4 {Godless Shrine}
4 {Isolated Chapel}
22 lands
3 {Tithe Drinker}
2 {Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker}
3 {Consuming Aberration}
1 {Lazav, Dimir Mastermind}
1 {Maze Sentinel}
10 creatures
1 {Liliana of the Dark Realms}
2 {Crypt Incursion}
4 {Dimir Charm}
1 {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}
2 {Jace, Memory Adept}
3 {Profit // Loss}
4 {Thought Scour}
1 {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}
2 {Reap Intellect}
4 {Mind Grind}
4 {Psychic Strike}
28 other spells
Sideboard
Notes:
Don't have all the cards yet, and I suck at building sideboards.
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Advice on what to change would be helpful, tho please try to keep it on a low budget.
If you can get your hands on {Invisible Stalker} instead of your {Deathcult Rogue} for ciphering onto. And look at {Jace, Memory Adept} for milling, great when paired with {Duskmantle Guildmage}
And you need ways to give yourself a draw advantage to get to those good cards faster. {Last Thoughts} for one with cipher, {Thought Scour} for one with a mill, or {Think Twice} for one with a flashback.
Ya, I know I need jace, but his price has increased by a few bucks, I'll find a way to get him, 1 or 2 ya think?
You need more land otherwise you will be doing a lot of mulligans. I suggest 22-24
Also {whispering madness} can get through your deck quickly while destroying your opponent's and add {psychic spiral} for some serious damage mid to late game. The two cards together can be devastating. It's an idea I've been working on.
Psychic spiral seems kind of pointless, it doesn't mill any extra cards
Quote from: Olaf Iverstone on February 19, 2013, 03:29:30 PM
Psychic spiral seems kind of pointless, it doesn't mill any extra cards
Oh right I am so glad mill decks do not play spirals... I play it on side in my Bant control and I quite often enjoy the moments of milling mill decks...:D {Psychic Spiral} is epic sideboard card against mill decks...:D killing by their own weapon...:D
Quote from: Olaf Iverstone on February 19, 2013, 03:29:30 PM
Psychic spiral seems kind of pointless, it doesn't mill any extra cards
It's a combo with {whispering madness}. Play {whispering madness} discard cards and get a new hand cipher onto an unblockable. Attack with unblockable use cipher and get a new hand and when you pull {psychic spiral} you get to mill them for everything in your graveyard. Just a suggestion though, it is slow.
I read what it does wrong, I thought they shuffled their graveyard into their deck then milled that many cards. Also, I put in 4 thought scours for 1 midnight recovery, 1 mortus strider, 1 killing wave, and 1 shadow slice
Why not {Increasing Confusion}?
MOAR LANDS!!!! Also, have you considered {havengul lich}?
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on February 19, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
MOAR LANDS!!!! Also, have you considered {havengul lich}?
Midnight recovery seems like the same thing, except 1 less mana and can only be used when it hits an opponent, ok, I guess I could see where he would be useful, but he just seems like he cost to much
Quote from: Ejazz00 on February 19, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Why not {Increasing Confusion}?
I've got a copy of that somewhere, if I can find it I might consider putting it in. Also, to the people who say more lands, what should I remove for those more lands?
Quote from: Olaf Iverstone on February 19, 2013, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on February 19, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
MOAR LANDS!!!! Also, have you considered {havengul lich}?
Midnight recovery seems like the same thing, except 1 less mana and can only be used when it hits an opponent, ok, I guess I could see where he would be useful, but he just seems like he cost to much
Lich let's you get their creatures if colors match, and you avoid the"middle man"
Middle man? What do you mean by that?
Any other ideas?
I bumped the land up to 23 lands, am thinking about replacing lazav with the {havengul lich}
Quote from: Olaf Iverstone on February 21, 2013, 08:24:54 AM
I bumped the land up to 23 lands, am thinking about replacing lazav with the {havengul lich}
I would, lazav doesn't seem like a great mainboard to me. Maybe sideboard?
I could see him as a sideboard card. What is the gatecrash card that is an enchantment that weakens token cards.
Quote from: Olaf Iverstone on February 21, 2013, 11:36:26 AM
I could see him as a sideboard card. What is the gatecrash card that is an enchantment that weakens token cards.
{Illness in the Ranks}
Lazav is better than Lich, IMO, since you're not required to use extra mana for his ability. Plus, his ability should stack if you mill multiple creatures. Not to mention hexproof.
I think lazav can only be a copy of 1 creature, so how could it stack?
If you mill multiple creatures at once
I always thought that it could just be 1 creature at a time
I don't know enough about Lavaz ability. I understand when a creature goes to the graveyard he may becomes a copy of it. I don't believe he can be a copy of multiple cards at once but I can see him screwing with reanimator. Mill creatures that say "whenever this creature enters the battlefield do x" that would be fun but I don't think it'll win games.
Initially, I thought you could do some crazy shenanigans with ETB/LTB effects by milling multiple creatures at once & manipulating the stack with his ability. But, alas, it doesn't work like that cuz he's already on the field. He would still get LTB effects if he somehow dies though.
went 1-3 today, just got my invisible stalkers, but i still need a few cards.
Quote from: Mothaelon on March 02, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
You need stall and wraths and whatnot.
I read It somewhere and I loved he quote" milling is a good wincon, but not a good strategy"
All you want is a few mill, say drownyards, jace, maybe though scour, sands. But then you want straight control; counters, wrath, stalling, etc.
Cause you leave yourself open big time by having nothing but mill cards when your opponent has the game in his first few turns because you couldn't answer anything except via milling.