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Orzhov Death And Life 60 cards, 0 sideboard 5 {Plains} 4 {Orzhov Guildgate} 4 {Godless Shrine} 9 {Swamp} 22 lands 4 {High Priest of Penance} 4 {Vampire Nighthawk} 2 {Treasury Thrull} 2 {Deathpact Angel} 2 {Rhox Faithmender} 3 {Obzedat, Ghost Council} 17 creatures 3 {Cremate} 3 {Orzhov Charm} 3 {Ultimate Price} 3 {Lingering Souls} 2 {Blind Obedience} 4 {Oblivion Ring} 2 {Gideon, Champion of Justice} 1 {Liliana of the Dark Realms} 21 other spells Sideboard Notes:

Need some help with this one.

 {Vizkopa Guildmage} is amazing with lifegain. He turns it into a double whammy

Cremate is not standard

Use  {Vizkopa Guildmage} in my side board but I think I should put them in instead of  {Deathpact Angel}

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 16, 2013, 10:20:37 PM
Cremate is not standard

{Cremate} is reprinted in return to ravnica therefore making it standard

May I suggest  {Dutiful Thrull}, he is an awesome blocker as well as can set up combos for you. I'd also so  {Crypt Ghast} would do wonders. Maybe  {Kingpin's Pet}, {Blind Obedience}?

My bad, I don't play with bad cards so I didn't realize it was

 {Exquisite Blood} is a must!!!

Quote from: Ejazz00 on February 16, 2013, 11:12:05 PM
May I suggest  {Dutiful Thrull}, he is an awesome blocker as well as can set up combos for you. I'd also so  {Crypt Ghast} would do wonders. Maybe  {Kingpin's Pet}, {Blind Obedience}?

I agree with  {Dutiful Thrull} a one drop with a cheap regenerate. I want to put in  {Crypt Ghast} but I feel like it would be better in a mono black deck. I didn't want to put in  {Kingpin's Pet} because I have  {Vampire Nighthawk}. Maybe up in the  {Dutiful Thrull} and another  {Blind Obedience}. Thanks for the recommendations.

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 16, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
My bad, I don't play with bad cards so I didn't realize it was

Thanks for the recommendation.

Anytime :)

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 16, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
My bad, I don't play with bad cards so I didn't realize it was

Cremate isn't bad at all. Albeit it's not the best mainboard but people play have it sideboard all the time. Specifically for reanimate decks (not to mention it's black draw power without the normal cost of paying life or saccing a creature). It's cheap, especially since the best 1 drop graveyard targeting mechanic card ( {Deathrite Shaman} ) is over ten bucks a pop and rising. But shaman is no good in this deck anyway, seeing as he has no green mana; making cremate a very good and viable black grave removal/draw power.

Quote from: NexisPrime on February 17, 2013, 01:01:57 AM

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 16, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
My bad, I don't play with bad cards so I didn't realize it was

Cremate isn't bad at all. Albeit it's not the best mainboard but people play have it sideboard all the time. Specifically for reanimate decks (not to mention it's black draw power without the normal cost of paying life or saccing a creature). It's cheap, especially since the best 1 drop graveyard targeting mechanic card ( {Deathrite Shaman} ) is over ten bucks a pop and rising. But shaman is no good in this deck anyway, seeing as he has no green mana; making cremate a very good and viable black grave removal/draw power.

Agreed I use cremate and distress in my sideboard. I found it particularly effective against undying creatures like  {Geralf's Messenger} and reanimate creatures like  {Gravecrawler}.

Yeah... There's this thing, called rest in peace

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 17, 2013, 01:53:01 AM
Yeah... There's this thing, called rest in peace

Only reason why I wouldn't use it is because of  {Treasury Thrull}. I wouldn't be able to get back my high priests and removals. But thanks for the reco, maybe sideboarded.

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 17, 2013, 01:53:01 AM
Yeah... There's this thing, called rest in peace

Yes rest in peace definetly puts a stop to grave yard shenanigans but cremate does give you a card and loses them a card from grave, and it's a instant so if you don't really have a threat you need to deal with right then you can just drop one of their cards out of the grave and draw a card (all at the end of the turn). 

So to put the record straight no it is not rest in peace deathrite shaman level and no I would probably not play in a type 2 event, but it is a nice one drop, draw and possible threat elimination,

Btw, my apologies to sunny, had a miny argument over a card when we are supposed to help him with his build

 the  {Obzedat, Ghost Council} is awesome!! He dodges board wipes deals two points puts your opponent on a clock, and can attack for five each turn, your pretty heavy into black so lilianna seems fine, {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} is a possibility because he can sit there and supply you with 1/1 and  and emblems not exactly sure what I think of Gideon, he hasn't been getting much play time in tournaments, I really like him as a card and want him to work, but I don't think he does quite enough. I like the idea of pulling a ermahgedon type strategy but at that point it could be considered "win more". But I haven't seen him in play with the build so he could work a lot better then I am thinking, and if you wanted some grave hate, then in your build I would be heading straight for {tormod's crypt}

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 17, 2013, 01:53:01 AM
Yeah... There's this thing, called rest in peace

Man, {Rest in Peace} hurts you when u play it, also, people post decks for people to help them, so why dont u please stop writing if you havnt got anything nice to say. Thankyou.

Quote from: Drewy on February 17, 2013, 04:22:10 AM

Quote from: Wsuryanjeska on February 17, 2013, 01:53:01 AM
Yeah... There's this thing, called rest in peace

Man, {Rest in Peace} hurts you when u play it, also, people post decks for people to help them, so why dont u please stop writing if you havnt got anything nice to say. Thankyou.

You're right, people do post decks for people to help them, so why do you comment on people's decks?

And rest in peace is BY FAR the best answer to graveyard shenanigans. Unless you're running an Unburial rights deck there's no reason it shouldn't atleast see the sideboard

Not sure what u mean by ur reply but ok, basically what i was trying to say is ur not gonna get far here by being unkind

Quote from: Everforward on February 17, 2013, 03:18:48 AM
the  {Obzedat, Ghost Council} is awesome!! He dodges board wipes deals two points puts your opponent on a clock, and can attack for five each turn, your pretty heavy into black so lilianna seems fine, {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} is a possibility because he can sit there and supply you with 1/1 and  and emblems not exactly sure what I think of Gideon, he hasn't been getting much play time in tournaments, I really like him as a card and want him to work, but I don't think he does quite enough. I like the idea of pulling a ermahgedon type strategy but at that point it could be considered "win more". But I haven't seen him in play with the build so he could work a lot better then I am thinking, and if you wanted some grave hate, then in your build I would be heading straight for {tormod's crypt}

Thanks for the reco man (and the support) I may actually look at {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} as an investment. Take out one of the Gideons. I think that I have the cards necessary to make a decent deck in standard I just have to play with it more.

Quote from: Sunny brown on February 17, 2013, 08:32:13 AM

Quote from: Everforward on February 17, 2013, 03:18:48 AM
the  {Obzedat, Ghost Council} is awesome!! He dodges board wipes deals two points puts your opponent on a clock, and can attack for five each turn, your pretty heavy into black so lilianna seems fine, {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} is a possibility because he can sit there and supply you with 1/1 and  and emblems not exactly sure what I think of Gideon, he hasn't been getting much play time in tournaments, I really like him as a card and want him to work, but I don't think he does quite enough. I like the idea of pulling a ermahgedon type strategy but at that point it could be considered "win more". But I haven't seen him in play with the build so he could work a lot better then I am thinking, and if you wanted some grave hate, then in your build I would be heading straight for {tormod's crypt}

Thanks for the reco man (and the support) I may actually look at {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} as an investment. Take out one of the Gideons. I think that I have the cards necessary to make a decent deck in standard I just have to play with it more.

The more I play with Gideon, the more I don't like him. I think Sorin will do you more good honestly