Angels are spiritual beings. They are not religious. But have a true relationship with God. They don't need rules, because any rules they would need are already part of there nature. I don't think angels have rituals they need to preform to honor God.
Also, most of Jesus's quarrels were against religious leaders. And he was spiritual, but not religious. A quality of green according to MaRo.
Also. Mathematics came from observing nature. Astronomy, biology, medicine, most advances in science somehow started in nature. Everything you come into contact in your everyday life? Once came from nature. So what's to say that all knowledge and wisdom came from nature? In the Christan doctrine, God created nature. And he even said he wanted mercy, not sacrifice. So, in my opinion, God is actually against organized religion. The biggest thorn in his sons side after all, were the religious leaders. Also, the bible basically says all LIFE comes from God. What color is about life? Green. Angels should be green, not white
Blame sorin he created the ones in innistrad
god has nothing to do with it, angels represent purity, therefore white
Lol not gonna touch this one
Green is about purity too. It has a hatred of artifacts and enchantments. It is against all things unnatural. Green is basically how the world used to be, and thus is arguably purer than white
Green is one of the main colours of infect: impurity, white eradicates the impure
As much as I enjoy trying to relate things to Christian Theology, I doubt you can truly draw definite lines. That is, in a sense, why God does not want organized religion. I believe in Faith, not a religion. So in a sense I both agree and disagree here. But, that's where acceptance comes in. Good to see some Christian minded thoughts into magic though, seems rare.
The angels in Magic have nothing to do with biblical angels, they simply represent justice and protect those who can't defend themselves
What about {Fallen Angel}?
Quote from: Malleo on February 13, 2013, 10:44:38 PM
The angels in Magic have nothing to do with biblical angels, they simply represent justice and protect those who can't defend themselves
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Quote from: KangaRod on February 13, 2013, 10:51:47 PM
More so than justice, they represent order.
Green is anti-order
hello? Have you looked at natural ecosystems undisturbed by man? Everything is balanced and one thing generally affects the other. There is a lot of inner connectivity with the way nature is set up, that if you take the time to just look. Than you see it. Take one species out of the picture. Things can start to go array. Even taking away a food source for one species, or even a population control species from another. Nature is Very, Very, Very orderly
Quote from: Malleo on February 13, 2013, 10:44:38 PM
The angels in Magic have nothing to do with biblical angels, they simply represent justice and protect those who can't defend themselves
Green is about inner connectivity. A green creature cares about others, and would indeed help another out. Therefore, it is not farflung that a green creature would protect other creatures
Forget the biblical argument I made then. I can do this all night, because I've thought about this so much, and have studied nature a lot
Your confirmation bias on this theory is border lining on cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
Quote from: Hays413 on February 13, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
Your confirmation bias on this theory is border lining on cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
is there anything wrong with sharing ideas? I'm just responding to the arguments made logically. There's nothing wrong with free speech, or free ideas or wanting to start up an intelligent conversation when your tired of convo's with little depth to them
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 13, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on February 13, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
Your confirmation bias on this theory is border lining on cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
is there anything wrong with sharing ideas? I'm just responding to the arguments made logically. There's nothing wrong with free speech, or free ideas or wanting to start up an intelligent conversation when your tired of convo's with little depth to them
I never said anything to the contrary. Just pointing it out. Exercise your free speech/ideas all you want, I encourage it.
Quote from: Hays413 on February 13, 2013, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 13, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on February 13, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
Your confirmation bias on this theory is border lining on cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
is there anything wrong with sharing ideas? I'm just responding to the arguments made logically. There's nothing wrong with free speech, or free ideas or wanting to start up an intelligent conversation when your tired of convo's with little depth to them
I never said anything to the contrary. Just pointing it out. Exercise your free speech/ideas all you want, I encourage it.
i try to work on how I sound, and if I can't refute a argument against this idea, I will accept it. Though as long as there is an argument I can refute, I will attempt to to encourage both the other people and me to think more. That's the way these discussions go. And the only reason I used biblical references in the first place was because, lets face it, that's where angels were inspired from. I won't promise I won't refrence the bible, but I do promise I will only refrence it were it counts and as sparingly as possible
And for the record. Green is the only color I've really thought about this way. I'm not sure I could come up with solid arguments about the other colors
Angels represent good in almost everyone's perception. White also represents good. Hence angels being white. Black is dark and evil in most aspects so that's why you have fallen angel and vampires and such.
Angels aren't green because it doesn't make sense given the perception held by the majority of people.
Quote from: NyghtHawk on February 14, 2013, 12:21:02 AM
Angels represent good in almost everyone's perception. White also represents good. Hence angels being white. Black is dark and evil in most aspects so that's why you have fallen angel and vampires and such.
Angels aren't green because it doesn't make sense given the perception held by the majority of people.
I actually enjoy the idea of having Angels, even in a good way, appearing in all colors. I agree that by general rule, Angels are good and thus white. But should one delve deeper, say, into Christian stories as is our OP, They appear in all ways. The Angel of Death prior to the exodus of Egypt would certainly not be mentally pictured as anything but black, but it was under God's command. Hence white as well.
I don't know if I'm lending anything here, just thought it would be fun to point out. I actually am working on ideas for a deck based in G/W, but with Bruna, Gisela, Sigarda, Deathpact Angel, and of course Avacyn. Just for the fun of it really.
Angels in Magic are created to protect people. As stated before, they are not biblical angels. They fall into Whites color pie.
Green is a primal color. Green denotes instinct, growth and nature - none of which apply to Angels. If there room for some bleed over? Only the things that Green and White share as ally colors. Life gain, counters and tokens.
Angels belong in White, as it makes the most sense for them to be there. Angels are Fantasy tropes, and their inclusion in Magic is that, not biblical.
Green disagrees with blue in Nature vs. Nuture. Blue believes in tabula rasa, the blank slate. Green believes in nature, and nothing is natural about Angelic constructs. Angels are created to protect weaker people and being Heralds of Justice.
If you wanted to argue that all Angels should be colorless Artifacts, I'd buy that to a degree. To suggest they be green would be like saying all Dragons should be blue - because they're intelligent and not rampaging monsters. But Red is the color for them.
Edit: Even creatures like {Angel of Despair} are white, and not full black because - Angel of Despair is not amoral, selfish or paranoid. It just does something White doesn't do like destroy permanents. The Angel Cycle in Avacyn Restored is weak sauce as far as flavor is concerned. The only reason they have other colors is because they do something white doesn't do via the way they decided to divy up in game mechanics.
Quote from: Dudecore on February 14, 2013, 01:22:25 AM
Angels in Magic are created to protect people. As stated before, they are not biblical angels. They fall into Whites color pie.
Green is a primal color. Green denotes instinct, growth and nature - none of which apply to Angels. If there room for some bleed over? Only the things that Green and White share as ally colors. Life gain, counters and tokens.
Angels belong in White, as it makes the most sense for them to be there. Angels are Fantasy tropes, and their inclusion in Magic is that, not biblical.
Green disagrees with blue in Nature vs. Nuture. Blue believes in tabula rasa, the blank slate. Green believes in nature, and nothing is natural about Angelic constructs. Angels are created to protect weaker people and being Heralds of Justice.
If you wanted to argue that all Angels should be colorless Artifacts, I'd buy that to a degree. To suggest they be green would be like saying all Dragons should be blue - because they're intelligent and not rampaging monsters. But Red is the color for them.
Edit: Even creatures like {Angel of Despair} are white, and not full black because - Angel of Despair is not amoral, selfish or paranoid. It just does something White doesn't do like destroy permanents. The Angel Cycle in Avacyn Restored is weak sauce as far as flavor is concerned. The only reason they have other colors is because they do something white doesn't do via the way they decided to divy up in game mechanics.
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Angels are good for 1 thing. Dying.
I think you will like the flavor text to {Killing Wave} ;)
Sorry for my disrespect but until there will be an angel that will have wings created from tree leaves instead of feathers then angels will be always white...;)
Nature is about 'eat or be eaten'. There are no natural creatures which care about others, other than their own offspring. The balance you see in nature is the same as mutually assured destruction of nuclear weapons. Greenpeace is a lie ;)
Quote from: Hays413 on February 13, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
Your confirmation bias on this theory is border lining on cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
Gtfo latin ecclasia
This debate is pointless and funny, trying to find symbolism in mtg is messed up, it's a game of intellect not spiritual depth, and besides, religion is simply organized spirituality.
How about that pope resignation? Lol
This thread rocks. They should put angels in every color so that everybody will be at peace. Amen.
Quote from: NyghtHawk on February 14, 2013, 12:21:02 AM
Angels represent good in almost everyone's perception. White also represents good. Hence angels being white. Black is dark and evil in most aspects so that's why you have fallen angel and vampires and such.
Angels aren't green because it doesn't make sense given the perception held by the majority of people.
MaRo himself said that white does not represent good, and is not all good. And he also said black does not represent evil, an is not all evil
Quote from: KangaRod on February 14, 2013, 05:12:18 AM
The problem here seems to be that in all the time studying Angels you haven't studied the colour pie of magic.
While in nature you are correct, there is an uncanny order to things, but the colour of green in magic, (while does have some ties to communal order) is most strongly based on following instincts ( or the opposite, of order).
The angels of magic are represented as beings whose purpose is to maintain order, and the colour most closely aligned with that concept is white.
I never said I studied angels. I said I studied nature and by the way, angels are spiritual an not religious, a quality of geen. Green is about nature. And there is inner dependence, here's proof from mark Rosewater himself
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr43
Quote from: Dudecore on February 14, 2013, 01:22:25 AM
Angels in Magic are created to protect people. As stated before, they are not biblical angels. They fall into Whites color pie.
Green is a primal color. Green denotes instinct, growth and nature - none of which apply to Angels. If there room for some bleed over? Only the things that Green and White share as ally colors. Life gain, counters and tokens.
Angels belong in White, as it makes the most sense for them to be there. Angels are Fantasy tropes, and their inclusion in Magic is that, not biblical.
Green disagrees with blue in Nature vs. Nuture. Blue believes in tabula rasa, the blank slate. Green believes in nature, and nothing is natural about Angelic constructs. Angels are created to protect weaker people and being Heralds of Justice.
If you wanted to argue that all Angels should be colorless Artifacts, I'd buy that to a degree. To suggest they be green would be like saying all Dragons should be blue - because they're intelligent and not rampaging monsters. But Red is the color for them.
Edit: Even creatures like {Angel of Despair} are white, and not full black because - Angel of Despair is not amoral, selfish or paranoid. It just does something White doesn't do like destroy permanents. The Angel Cycle in Avacyn Restored is weak sauce as far as flavor is concerned. The only reason they have other colors is because they do something white doesn't do via the way they decided to divy up in game mechanics.
i ditched the biblical argument. And I see your point. Green is about interdependence, as you can see from the link. And protecting others is interdependence. Guess I just have a different view about angels about protecting people being there nature, they don't have to think about it. They just do it. And as you can see from the article, green is spiritual, and angels are spiritual, so angels could at least fit in green.
And for those that didn't catch it. I basically said organized religion is bad in my first argument
U could say everything is green then, since its a demons nature to take ur soul or a lightning bolts nature to smoke u to the face. U use the word in a very vague context.
Quote from: Majriti on February 14, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
U could say everything is green then, since its a demons nature to take ur soul or a lightning bolts nature to smoke u to the face. U use the word in a very vague context.
demons are not green because they are only out for there own self interest, which is black. They are selfish, and sadistic. Which is black, and why green hates them.
By the way, at the end of this article is proof that white is not all good, and black is not all bad. From head designer Mark Rosewater himself
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr221
Edit: in fact, arguing that white is good and black is evil is arguing that there is a god, and a devil in the magic multiverse
Also. Some people on here proved my theory of non-believers being just as closed minded, bigoted, rude, and bias as they claim believers to be correct. I think now I'm leaning more towards Christianity than Atheism. Thank you for the nudge everyone
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 14, 2013, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: Majriti on February 14, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
U could say everything is green then, since its a demons nature to take ur soul or a lightning bolts nature to smoke u to the face. U use the word in a very vague context.
demons are not green because they are only out for there own self interest, which is black. They are selfish, and sadistic. Which is black, and why green hates them.
By the way, at the end of this article is proof that white is not all good, and black is not all bad. From head designer Mark Rosewater himself
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr221
Edit: in fact, arguing that white is good and black is evil is arguing that there is a god, and a devil in the magic multiverse
I disagree with your last statement, arguing that there is good and evil doesn't mean there's a god and a devil (well, there are devils in innistrad) it's arguing that there's good and evil, also on that note angels are not spiritual, they are just mythical creatures with an overwhelming desire to do good (white), and demons are the same except they're evil (black)
Isn't arguing that white is all good, and black is all evil arguing for absolute truth? And I see your point, and disregard that previous statement (the one about that was arguing there was a god and devil in the magic multiverse)
Although. Even if you take all Christianity out of the picture, the angels in magic are still considered spiritual beings. Otherwise, they'd be humans with wings
I see your point birdbrain, and having followed the entire convo, I feel that both sides are correct in their own ways. Yes, the spirituality side would more or less fit in with the green aspect, but I see nature and green as an ever changing entity, everything getting stronger and working together harmoniously. "Survival of the fittest" or last one standing is also a part green. Angels do not represent these concepts. The harmoniously and naturally part could tie in, but angels in that respect would be more of a selesyna theme then, mixing the concepts of white and green. I couldn't say that angels would be mono green bc their purpose is to keep order and maintain the "good" of the world. If you wanna talk legitimate evidence, lets look at the numbers. Most angels( not all) tend to have higher toughness than power (or break even). You never see a top heavy angel. Why? Bc that would be more green aspects. Since they have more toughness, they can be seen as white, since white values protection, and just like someone said, angels are seen in the world as a "guardian" of sorts. I see your point birdbrain, which is why a few green mix angels exists, ie {Sigarda, Host of Herons}, {Maelstrom Angel}, {Empyrial ArchAngel}. But the overall theme of even those cards is still protection somewhat. And notice that any other angel you find always mixes white, for the most part.
To me, the theme of angels seems to be justice, at all costs. Not good, not evil; but usually good in most cases. Angels seek balance, and justice restores {balance}. ;)
I guess your right quackmaster. I guess if there was an all green angel, it would have to be one of nature. A wild angel whose desire to protect is instinctual. Basically, you would have to say maybe its whole purpose would be to protect the natural order. I guess green is more about support than protection. Though doesn't support protect?
Though cant one have a different opinion on what angels are? I still say that angels's desire to protect is built into them, and they don't even have to think about it. Maybe angels don't fit into the color wheel at all, because there are just too much about them. And the color wheel is too static, though it is stretched all the time MaRo admitted.
I'll meet you half way and say angels are hard to classify
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 14, 2013, 04:24:11 PM
To me, the theme of angels seems to be justice, at all costs. Not good, not evil; but usually good in most cases. Angels seek balance, and justice restores {balance}. ;)
and white is the color of balance. Though green is the second most color that cares about balance. Just look at the natural world, and how one species usually affects the other...man. White and green are really close to each other, just like MaRo said
Quote from: KangaRod on February 14, 2013, 05:09:20 PM
I think you're thinking of pixies of fairies. Angels are universally acknowledged as the ultimate pure beings.
Purity in all modern literature is represented as order, and impurity as chaos.
Nature is considered to be the opposite to technology, and the traditional tropes always use green to represent nature, and therefore, traditionally, green is the colour of chaos.
When you have the ultimate pure being, putting it in the colour that aligns itself with the chaos of nature is nonsensical
I agree with this. Angels being anything but white doesnt make sense to me.
Another thing is that angels are flying and green is very anti-flying (reach, plummet, aerial predation)
I guess my problem is I disagree, because I've found that nature is very orderly because the ecosystems have lots of species that need each other to survive.
And by the way, if green is chaos, why isn't there coin flipping in green? And why is red described as chaotic?
Green is in between white and red. So one can say its actually in between order and chaos. It's very orderly, but I suppose it's also spontaneous as well. Though I guess compared to white, green is chaotic. Though it is not in and of itself chaotic. Just hard to predict, and instinctual.
Looking at a forest from a top down perspective, it actually supports numerous birds. Letting them thrive, providing them with places to nest, and protection. Though I think greens flying hate must come from big flyers like dragons. So it makes sense, and it doesn't at the same time. I suppose angels are big flyers, and probably wouldn't fly well through a forest. Though in my opinion, nature is the purest form of anything man-made around us. Sense at some point, it all came from nature
Well, no, nature is not about order, it is about competition. The forest doesn't 'support' the birds, it merely ignores them. The forest is about constant struggle for resources: ground, water, light. It's about outcompeting all the other species in fight for the resources. Eat or be eaten, overgrow or be overgrown. No protection, just survival of the fittest.
Well what the deal with greens interdependence than?
Ur still arguing ? Funny
It's like a broken record
Hey now he just has a strong oppinion, no need to make hurt feeling comments :)
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 14, 2013, 02:12:22 PM
And for those that didn't catch it. I basically said organized religion is bad in my first argument
Bird, your discussion has obviously sparked a great deal of thought and interest. Good on! I appreciate your willingness to find common ground and consider other opinions. Consider this. I am Seventh Day Adventist, a very structured, classically academic, and natural lifestyle encouraging religion (white/splash green😄). My church has hundreds of schools k through university level world wide, a far reaching humanitarian organization, local charities, and the traditional myriad of church related functions. I recognize the tendency of religiously minded, particularly the right wing and evangelical groups, to guard their views zealously often to the exclusion of the feelings and views of others. But I also recognize this same conservativism is the strength that holds the structure of a church that in turn offers so much in education, spirituality, and humanitarian efforts.
The organized religious can seem abrasive and short sighted but this "order" is what fuels the great works (both good and bad) that a church accomplishes. I think mtg sums up my religion quite nicely with the color white. It may be a controlling and and defensive color, but it accomplishes great things😊. Again, bird, thanks for a thought provoking thread!
Sorry kanga. It's just in the link I posted, it said green was a color of interconectivity, or interdependence. Plus you have green humans from innistrad supporting others. And you have cards that boost a whole myrad of creatures. You have mana dorks that help bring big guns in early. I could go on and on. The fact is, green relies on others. Even if I completely agreed and said angels are white, you can't ignore the interdependence of green.
In fact, it also said community. Here's the link again
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr43
And langku. What about the crusades? And the fact that some try to force Christianity down other people's throats? And if its so organized, why is it so divided? People have obviously put there own opinions into the matter, and so who's to say that what this church leader or that church leader says is true Christianity?
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 15, 2013, 07:05:27 AM
Sorry kanga. It's just in the link I posted, it said green was a color of interconectivity, or interdependence. Plus you have green humans from innistrad supporting others. And you have cards that boost a whole myrad of creatures. You have mana dorks that help bring big guns in early. I could go on and on. The fact is, green relies on others. Even if I completely agreed and said angels are white, you can't ignore the interdependence of green.
In fact, it also said community. Here's the link again
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr43
And langku. What about the crusades? And the fact that some try to force Christianity down other people's throats? And if its so organized, why is it so divided? People have obviously put there own opinions into the matter, and so who's to say that what this church leader or that church leader says is true Christianity?
Bird, I believe that the Innistrad humans that are green help each other bc that's what the human creature type does, not the color. And most of the group helping you are talking about are not a mono green quality, it's more of a selesyna quality. Innistrad humans were designed to interact well with white humans.
Well why did MaRo define green as "community" and "interdependence" among other qualities. Check the link
Also, there are numerous other examples I could dig up which I don't have the time to now, but will bit by bit later. Other than mana dorks that
Also. There are cards that boost groups of creatures for the community aspect. A quality also found in white
The point is that while green and white both may value community, green is also the color of the wild, the natural, evolution and competition. White is the color of Order, justice, and equality.
It is very clear which of those two fits Angels (as a fantasy trope mind you) the best. Note that while order justice and equality are traditionally viewed as such, they really don't belon on the scale of "good vs evil"
Angels are not natural beings. No matter what you think of them, we can all at least agree on that. So them being green would not make sense since green is the natural color. The primal color.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 15, 2013, 11:39:54 AM
Angels are not natural beings. No matter what you think of them, we can all at least agree on that. So them being green would not make sense since green is the natural color. The primal color.
guess your right coffee vampire. They are spiritual, but not natural. So it's like saying one half of the equation is true, the other half is false. So the equation must be true, because one side was true. No, if one side is false, both are false...although. You could argue spirits are not natural as well. Yet they are in green. How do you explain spirits in green in both the kamigawa and innistrad blocks?
Quote from: Rackhamm on February 15, 2013, 11:32:17 AM
The point is that while green and white both may value community, green is also the color of the wild, the natural, evolution and competition. White is the color of Order, justice, and equality.
It is very clear which of those two fits Angels (as a fantasy trope mind you) the best. Note that while order justice and equality are traditionally viewed as such, they really don't belon on the scale of "good vs evil"
which is what I said earlier. White is not nessicarily good, black is not nessicarily evil. They just are. I suppose angels are white. But that's not to say you can't put an angel in green. Maybe it is an angel whose purpose is to protect the natural order. And it relies on many of the concepts that you said. I suppose you would half to fit its philosophies into green. That's the thing about the creative process. I can make an angel in green if I wanted to as long as it fit greens philosophies and behaved the way green creatures do. And besides, green is a spiritual color after all
Angels aren't spirits though. The {Serra Angel} is a being of almost pure white mana, created from the soul of a brave warrior when they died. They aren't spirits that take physical form, they are beings of mana that can take physical form. It's hard to argue what color they should be when they're made of almost pure white mana. This is a pretty awesome topic though, I also thank you for a very thought provoking topic. When it comes down to it though, green (color-wise) is a primal color that doesn't really concern itself with justice or morality. Green cares about preserving itself simply because that's what green does. It doesn't do things for the better of others (unless with another color), it doesn't care much about honor or justice; it cares about the natural, primal ways that are contained within. Of course, there are exceptions to every rules (black angels, etc) but in essence that's what it comes down to. Angels are (usually) made of white mana, and this are white.
Ok. That makes sense
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 15, 2013, 07:05:27 AM
And langku. What about the crusades? And the fact that some try to force Christianity down other people's throats? And if its so organized, why is it so divided? People have obviously put there own opinions into the matter, and so who's to say that what this church leader or that church leader says is true Christianity?
Valid points, Bird. I figure Christianity is like the mtg community. If someone were to define us by the murder last year over a collection of cards or the by the obligatory guys who cheat and act like jerks at the prerelease you really miss the value of a friendly and intelligent group of gamers. If someone assumes all players are Spikes, Johnnys, or Timmys then they miss the variety our group really holds. Same way with Christians. They do great things and bad things and are all fundamentally different. The crusades not withstanding, Christians are pretty decent people with strong passions. Like a tcgamer.
And most Christians would agree angels are white allied, not green😉.
Could goblins be green?
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 15, 2013, 04:25:37 PM
Could goblins be green?
I think that they really embody red, they are completely chaotic. The only ones who aren't are mixed with white. {Legion Loyalist}
{jund hackblade}
Also. If green is chaotic. Goblins belong in green
Actually. I checked and there are more goblins in green then that one. What's the philosophy in that?
Goblins can splash into any color, but are primarily red.
Red green goblins accentuate feralness
Red white accentuates war like nature
Red black accentuates dirty tricks and greed
Red blue accentuates magic.
Quote from: Aladormax on February 15, 2013, 09:30:39 PM
Goblins can splash into any color, but are primarily red.
lol. Pure blue goblins. I know that's never going to happen, because blue goblins shoukd be a mix. but what you said put that image in my head. Ok, now I'm going to let this thread fade away, unless someone has something else they want to say here
Though actually green goblins don't make sense to me
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 15, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Though actually green goblins don't make sense to me
Unless you're Spider Man
Birdbrain let me just say that I'm quite a fan of your outside of the box thinking.
Quote from: Teysa karlov on February 13, 2013, 09:59:45 PM
Blame sorin he created the ones in innistrad
No. He created Avacyn and ONLY Avacyn. I can tell because the flavor text on {Vault of the Archangel} is CREATION, not CREATIONS. And by the story lines.
Edit: Sorry for the bump. I didn't notice until after I posted.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 13, 2013, 10:49:18 PM
What about {Fallen Angel}?
Love all versions of this card. One of my all time favorites as far as art goes. Just speculating a story where Serra cut off her wings....
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 16, 2013, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on February 13, 2013, 09:59:45 PM
Blame sorin he created the ones in innistrad
No. He created Avacyn and ONLY Avacyn. I can tell because the flavor text on {Vault of the Archangel} is CREATION, not CREATIONS. And by the story lines.
Edit: Sorry for the bump. I didn't notice until after I posted.
why are you reviving dead threads? Are you wanting to build a reanimator deck and this is your idea of training for it?
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 16, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 16, 2013, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on February 13, 2013, 09:59:45 PM
Blame sorin he created the ones in innistrad
No. He created Avacyn and ONLY Avacyn. I can tell because the flavor text on {Vault of the Archangel} is CREATION, not CREATIONS. And by the story lines.
Edit: Sorry for the bump. I didn't notice until after I posted.
why are you reviving dead threads? Are you wanting to build a reanimator deck and this is your idea of training for it?
I don't try to :(
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 16, 2013, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on February 13, 2013, 09:59:45 PM
Blame sorin he created the ones in innistrad
No. He created Avacyn and ONLY Avacyn. I can tell because the flavor text on {Vault of the Archangel} is CREATION, not CREATIONS. And by the story lines.
Edit: Sorry for the bump. I didn't notice until after I posted.
Tally: 3. You're on a roll ;)
Just How is he reviving these thread?
It's called a necrobump, and it's a little annoying. Just check posting times first dude.
Quote from: Vyse on November 16, 2013, 06:56:41 PM
It's called a necrobump, and it's a little annoying. Just check posting times first dude.
I post on it because I have something to say or think it needs to be brought back, that is all.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 16, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
Quote from: Vyse on November 16, 2013, 06:56:41 PM
It's called a necrobump, and it's a little annoying. Just check posting times first dude.
I post on it because I have something to say or think it needs to be brought back, that is all.
You have to dig pretty deep to bump these threads, just check the last post date before commenting.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on November 17, 2013, 06:54:01 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 16, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
Quote from: Vyse on November 16, 2013, 06:56:41 PM
It's called a necrobump, and it's a little annoying. Just check posting times first dude.
I post on it because I have something to say or think it needs to be brought back, that is all.
You have to dig pretty deep to bump these threads, just check the last post date before commenting.
It only takes me a few seconds ;)
Are you doing this for attention? Are you wanting to be the main focus in all these threads so your necro'ing them?
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Are you doing this for attention? Are you wanting to be the main focus in all these threads so your necro'ing them?
No, I hate being drawn attention.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 18, 2013, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Are you doing this for attention? Are you wanting to be the main focus in all these threads so your necro'ing them?
No, I hate being drawn attention.
thats what necroposting does
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 18, 2013, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Are you doing this for attention? Are you wanting to be the main focus in all these threads so your necro'ing them?
No, I hate being drawn attention.
thats what necroposting does
I don't
mean to necrobump :(
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 18, 2013, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 18, 2013, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Are you doing this for attention? Are you wanting to be the main focus in all these threads so your necro'ing them?
No, I hate being drawn attention.
thats what necroposting does
I don't mean to necrobump :(
you had to dig pretty deep to pull this monstrosity of a thread up. This was started, what, nine months ago? Eight?
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 18, 2013, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 18, 2013, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Are you doing this for attention? Are you wanting to be the main focus in all these threads so your necro'ing them?
No, I hate being drawn attention.
thats what necroposting does
I don't mean to necrobump :(
you had to dig pretty deep to pull this monstrosity of a thread up. This was started, what, nine months ago? Eight?
What I do is, I just get bored and go to random people's profiles and look at karma and old posts and stuff. I don't remember that the threads are old :(
Check the date on the last post in the thread before posting please. Necroposting may not be against iMtG law, but it's very annoying to some people
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 18, 2013, 04:48:33 PM
Check the date on the last post in the thread before posting please. Necroposting may not be against iMtG law, but it's very annoying to some people
I'll try
BTT:)
I guess angels are white bc the are tought of as eternal beings, even in the game they tend to revive others wich is totally not green, circle of live...
And I like this being revived I wouldn't have read a very nice dialysis ion without it
But I understand the point of leaving it in its grave too