Richardalcala
Ericlay
And Darius(just started so no worries here)
Richard and ericlay, have you received my cards/sent yours? Its been a noteworthy amount of time.
Pm'd basically said no I'm still waiting on a couple trades and I know others visa versa but I'm starting to think some aren't coming idk something seems up I'm sure you sent though and mails slow
Same here with ericlay. Been waiting for a while now.
Me too... But he has at least responded back to me.
Sorry but im somewhat uncomofortable now
Quote from: MisterJH on February 12, 2013, 10:39:17 PM
Richardalcala
Ericlay
And Darius(just started so no worries here)
Richard and ericlay, have you received my cards/sent yours? Its been a noteworthy amount of time.
Pm works great you don't have to make a board on it.
Been waiting for ericclays cards for atleast 3 months
Well this is why i boarded it richard, you have trusted trader out the bum from what i remember so it was mostly for this
My trade with him was for $3 worth of cards, so I wasn't going to make a fuss over it. Im just putting it out there since other people also have trades with him that are taking a while.
I have a trade with him and he said that the mail just takes a long time in his area. I've had good trades with him in the past so I'm inclined to trust him.
Quote from: Ericlay94 on February 13, 2013, 12:20:07 AM
Pm'd basically said no I'm still waiting on a couple trades and I know others visa versa but I'm starting to think some aren't coming idk something seems up I'm sure you sent though and mails slow
Your cards are in the mail, let me know when you get them
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 13, 2013, 01:39:15 AM
Same here with ericlay. Been waiting for a while now.
Your cards are in the mail, let me know when you get them
Quote from: Potticus on February 13, 2013, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: Darius on February 13, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
I have a trade with him and he said that the mail just takes a long time in his area. I've had good trades with him in the past so I'm inclined to trust him.
Good to hear. Even if he was lazy an sent a few days later I still like to hear he's safe
I had a good trade with him as well last April . I still trust him.
My first trade ever is with ericlay95. He was all prompt with PMs during the discussion, and then when I sent first and PM that it was on its way, not even a courtesy PM in response, let alone completion of the trade, but okay it has only been 6 days. But a courtesy PM would be nice.
The same thing happened with me also was my first trade haha it hasn't been long since I sent off, just would like a pm back
Quote from: Potticus on February 13, 2013, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: AwaySinceMirage on February 13, 2013, 10:05:04 PM
My first trade ever is with ericlay95. He was all prompt with PMs during the discussion, and then when I sent first and PM that it was on its way, not even a courtesy PM in response, let alone completion of the trade, but okay it has only been 6 days. But a courtesy PM would be nice.
This is Eric clay 94 lol
? Huh
I've traded with ericclay before. It just took some time. I've been waiting for a month and a half or so, but I'm not terribly worried. He's been pretty good about pm'ing me back and he hasn't just left like the people that actually have burned me.
And I'm assuming Ericclay94 is just Ericclay95 after something happened to his account or he accidentally signed out and forgot his password or something :P
Yeah, about that, I don't know what that is. I received PMs from Ericlay94, but my replies go to both ericlay94 and ericlay95. whichever. I do know that it's one word with one c though.
Quote from: Silent1236 on February 13, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
I've traded with ericclay before. It just took some time. I've been waiting for a month and a half or so, but I'm not terribly worried. He's been pretty good about pm'ing me back and he hasn't just left like the people that actually have burned me.
And I'm assuming Ericclay94 is just Ericclay95 after something happened to his account or he accidentally signed out and forgot his password or something :P
I have a trade going with him right now too.
No trade should take a month and a half if the cards were sent on time. Mail isn't that slow. Ever. Just saying.
I just sent cards to ericlay yesterday, you all are making me doubt him:/
Quote from: Boyesrobert on February 14, 2013, 12:13:17 AM
I just sent cards to ericlay yesterday, you all are making me doubt him:/
ditto
Pikachu
Charzard?
Lmao XD
I a also waiting on cards from ericclay, but it has only been 1.5 weeks. Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY traded with him in the last month?
Idts.. Im strongly favoring he goes on untrusted traders until some cards start ariving from him
Quote from: MisterJH on February 14, 2013, 08:22:36 PM
Idts.. Im strongly favoring he goes on untrusted traders until some cards start ariving from him
I concur
Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on February 14, 2013, 07:54:17 PM
I a also waiting on cards from ericclay, but it has only been 1.5 weeks. Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY traded with him in the last month?
I'm in the same boat as you. It's been close to two weeks.
He has messaged me saying he sent my card back to me, at was about 2 months after our trade, now it's been about 2 months since that message.... I just gave up
Well its unfortunate cuz i thought i was getting a much needed birds of paradise and demonic tutor... Lost out on my rav {overgrown tomb} which fetched me many offers
I sent him a Tamiyo, godless shrine , glacial fortress and 9 zen lands. I hope he is still good I really need the engineered explosives for my modern deck. But like I said I had successful trades with him before so I'm not worried.
I just lost a friends sublime archangel been less than a week but with all that's been said I'm not feeling good about this
Richard's cards arrived as i expected btw
And yea, i added him to untrustworthy traders at least for the time being.
okay I'm in, the chorus of boos and raspberries for ericlay94 and ericlay95.
My loss stands to be one {Liliana of the Dark Realms}.
How are this many people all currently trading with him? Bad business. He has $25 worth of cards I sent him and I hope he sends his end. I'd advise anyone else to hold off until we know everyone gets their cards.....
This is for ericclay
I'm trading with him, but I'm waiting on him to send his end first. Maybe he's too bogged down with trades? Or just going to run away with everything. Who knows.
All I know is that I don't want to hear it this time if people get taken again. It happens once a month at this point and it's just annoying.
*sigh*
Ive been waiting since January 14th, so yeah. No way cards should take that long. Even if it is slow mail. Ive had stuff from overseas shipped to me and it didnt take anywhere near this long.
Im considering this topic closed until further notice, i no longer am expecting my end of the trade. If i get it ill make sure to inform you, but until then good luck, and be careful everyone.
Well luckily I had delays on my end, I was gonna send him my cards tomorrow but now I'm going to wait until I receive, as unlikely as that seems now. Good luck to all with him.
Quote from: Dudecore on February 14, 2013, 11:38:28 PM
All I know is that I don't want to hear it this time if people get taken again. It happens once a month at this point and it's just annoying.
This. I think a post saying that the person is untrustworthy is sensible. So is being pissed off at the person. But all the posts stating that you're going to go to their house and stuff is over the top. Yeah, you may have lost a card or several cards, but a bunch of posts about it isn't really necessary. There's always going to be a risk with online trading. I realize I'm being a bit hypocritical because I made a couple posts pertaining to the MetalMadMan deal, but I do agree with DC here.
All I expect and try to do is keep in constant contact with ppl I trade with. I've waited a month and a half for cards and so have people on the receiving end. The mail is certainly never consistent either. I think a major upgrade to track pending and completed trades as well as a trader rating would be ideal. Other than that, when word gets around, make an untrusted trader a send-first-only, as well as new members. My first deal, I sent a $25 card so I'm not worried.
Quote from: Silent1236 on February 15, 2013, 12:59:35 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on February 14, 2013, 11:38:28 PM
All I know is that I don't want to hear it this time if people get taken again. It happens once a month at this point and it's just annoying.
This. I think a post saying that the person is untrustworthy is sensible. So is being pissed off at the person. But all the posts stating that you're going to go to their house and stuff is over the top. Yeah, you may have lost a card or several cards, but a bunch of posts about it isn't really necessary. There's always going to be a risk with online trading. I realize I'm being a bit hypocritical because I made a couple posts pertaining to the MetalMadMan deal, but I do agree with DC here.
I have to disagree with you and dc. Yes dude core and you have seen this before and will see it again as being older members. To some people this is the first time for them. Let them express what they want and blow off some steam. Unless we lock the site not allowing new members things or ideas are going to appear again.
Quote from: Rass on February 15, 2013, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on February 15, 2013, 12:59:35 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on February 14, 2013, 11:38:28 PM
All I know is that I don't want to hear it this time if people get taken again. It happens once a month at this point and it's just annoying.
This. I think a post saying that the person is untrustworthy is sensible. So is being pissed off at the person. But all the posts stating that you're going to go to their house and stuff is over the top. Yeah, you may have lost a card or several cards, but a bunch of posts about it isn't really necessary. There's always going to be a risk with online trading. I realize I'm being a bit hypocritical because I made a couple posts pertaining to the MetalMadMan deal, but I do agree with DC here.
I have to disagree with you and dc. Yes dude core and you have seen this before and will see it again as being older members. To some people this is the first time for them. Let them express what they want and blow off some steam. Unless we lock the site not allowing new members things or ideas are going to appear again.
I meant that I don't personally want to hear about it. It's fine to vent and get your anger out. I just don't have to read it. As a moderator I'm often asked to do things outside of my scope of power.
I have a full time job, I do this on my own free time, and can't afford to force anyone into litigation over cards - if I could believe me I would. What I can, and our other moderators do, is offer a free service where you can send trades through us.
This thing is happening too often that i have to wash my hands of it somehow. I was ripped off by Kuberr, but never again. I have learned a lesson. There is no easy solution at all. New members are asked to send their side first, and older players turned rogue can capitalize on it.
I think the trusted trader forum needs to be cleaned up badly cause people like him have people vouching for him
@dudecore
Ok didn't know you we're getting pm's about this. I read it more like oh well you got ripped off get over it. It's gonna happen again so stop posting about it I know there is nothing you can do and I hope no one expects you to. I understand that you are donating your time and we do appreciate it. Thanks for explaining it more
Quote from: Rass on February 15, 2013, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on February 15, 2013, 12:59:35 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on February 14, 2013, 11:38:28 PM
All I know is that I don't want to hear it this time if people get taken again. It happens once a month at this point and it's just annoying.
This. I think a post saying that the person is untrustworthy is sensible. So is being pissed off at the person. But all the posts stating that you're going to go to their house and stuff is over the top. Yeah, you may have lost a card or several cards, but a bunch of posts about it isn't really necessary. There's always going to be a risk with online trading. I realize I'm being a bit hypocritical because I made a couple posts pertaining to the MetalMadMan deal, but I do agree with DC here.
I have to disagree with you and dc. Yes dude core and you have seen this before and will see it again as being older members. To some people this is the first time for them. Let them express what they want and blow off some steam. Unless we lock the site not allowing new members things or ideas are going to appear again.
I totally see where you're coming from, but I'm not talking about just the major deals either. I've seen several "It's been a week and my cards still aren't here! This guy is a (profanity) and you shouldn't trade with him!" Those are unnecessary and I just think that talking about going to their house and stuff is unnecessary. It is good to let people know that a person is a bad trader though. Just don't say that after a week or a week and a half or something. I know I'm kinda just repeating myself, but I'm trying to say it where I don't sound like an .rearexit.. I just can't think of the best wording :-\
Quote from: Mintkid219 on February 15, 2013, 04:09:41 PM
I think the trusted trader forum needs to be cleaned up badly cause people like him have people vouching for him
Sadly, to keep things free, that's all you can go off of. If people can vouch for someone or not. As explained in a thread in the Ideas and Feedback section, yeah you can use things like eBay and PayPal, but there's fees involved. The whole point of trading is to keep from having to spend money. Yeah it sucks when this happens, but as stated numerous times before, don't trade what you can't afford to lose, if it sounds to good to be true, then it most likely is, and if you have reservations about a trade, use the middle-man insurance option.
Quote from: Mintkid219 on February 15, 2013, 04:09:41 PM
I think the trusted trader forum needs to be cleaned up badly cause people like him have people vouching for him
Yeah we definitely need to be more proactive towards making a better trading experience for all. I think we should have like a vouch count with dates so people can get a better idea of who is a good trader. Also we need to post city, state, and zip codes tagged to usernames who turn out to be bad traders.
I mean metalmadman is still on the first page when you look at trust trade for example. It just needs cleaned up