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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Thorn on February 12, 2013, 10:09:33 PM

Title: Infinite Mana, Syncopate, Fireball
Post by: Thorn on February 12, 2013, 10:09:33 PM
So let's say that I am using an infinite mana deck. (the specific cards do not matter here)
And my opponent is also using an infinite mana combo deck. If I cast {Fireball} (or any other (x) damage dealing spell) and them he counters it with {Syncophate} or {Broken Ambitions} who's spell wins? We both have infinite!
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 10:22:28 PM
What exactly is infinite mana? Just curious.
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: MisterJH on February 12, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
To be clear, rules state you must select a number when casting X costs, even with infinite mana. You cannot simply say infinity, you must select a number even if it is a quadrillionmillionbillion time 10. Therefore you cast the spell first, and must select a number, allowing him to select a number higher than yours and counter your spell. The fireball's caster cannot win without an added factor. Infinite v. Infinite the second player must always come out on top according to rules.

RESOLVED
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on February 12, 2013, 10:25:10 PM
ie. {axebane guardian} + {galvanic alchemist} + whack load of defenders.
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Kaleo42 on February 12, 2013, 10:25:59 PM
Cant actually have infinite. Rules specify you have to designate a finite number.
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: MisterJH on February 12, 2013, 10:26:21 PM
Well.. 3 defenders in addition to 1 axbane seems to be enough there
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on February 12, 2013, 10:27:38 PM
Three is a whack load.
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: MisterJH on February 12, 2013, 10:27:48 PM
So you could {syncopate} his {syncopate} and declare a higher number since your opponent must also specify a finite number.'
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Trunksthemighty on February 12, 2013, 10:28:34 PM
Just look up a really big number that practically no one knows exists ending in all 9's and they probably won't be able to tople you. Granted they don't know the number that's bigger
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on February 12, 2013, 10:28:47 PM
Exactly
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: MisterJH on February 12, 2013, 10:30:24 PM
I believe they can say, and i would quote, "i have infinite mana so let X equal 1 more mana than you spent on your spell." I would force them to accept that at least.
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on February 12, 2013, 10:31:36 PM
So what your saying is... Nanana booboo
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: MisterJH on February 12, 2013, 10:32:10 PM
Hahaha that is precisely what im saying
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on February 12, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
Holy mother of all things holy,  I despise {U}
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Trunksthemighty on February 12, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on February 12, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
Holy mother of all things holy,  I despise {U}

Ditto
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on February 12, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
It's just so good, I dislike it immensely...

So good... Lol
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: MementoMori on February 13, 2013, 12:48:54 AM
If you have infinite mana and your opponent has to name a finite number for Syncopate, you would have whatever {X} is and be able to pay it.
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: MisterJH on February 13, 2013, 06:08:33 AM
You have to name a finite number for fireball first
Title: Re: Infinite Mana, Syncopate, Fireball
Post by: Thorn on February 13, 2013, 06:33:40 PM
Lol this is funny ;)
Title: Re: Hypothetical infinity
Post by: Wally on February 13, 2013, 07:22:54 PM
Quote from: MementoMori on February 13, 2013, 12:48:54 AM
If you have infinite mana and your opponent has to name a finite number for Syncopate, you would have whatever {X} is and be able to pay it.

Lol I was about to say the same thing. :)
Title: Re: Infinite Mana, Syncopate, Fireball
Post by: Wally on February 13, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: Testset on February 13, 2013, 07:29:48 PM
Assuming, of course, they didn't use ALL their mana and leave their Guardian tapped... 🙈
Oops!
Title: Re: Infinite Mana, Syncopate, Fireball
Post by: Bozo_Law on February 13, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
But then you could reapond by adding more mana.