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Title: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 11, 2013, 09:39:28 AM
When a creature is exiled temporarily to avoid an enchantment or instant that would take him out of the game does that creature lose any enchantments or +1/+1 counters it has when it comes back into play.
Title: Re: Exile
Post by: Deathstorm on February 11, 2013, 10:04:11 AM
Yes they do unless it is phasing but cloud shifting does remove any + or enchantments
Title: Re: Exile
Post by: prayos on February 11, 2013, 10:37:24 AM
Anytime a creature leaves the battlefield for any reason, they lose all enchantments/ciphers/counters that were on them.  There are some exceptions to this, but they are older cards I know not of.

From the rules:

121.2. Counters on an object are not retained if that object moves from one zone to another. The counters are not "removed"; they simply cease to exist. See rule 400.7.

400.7. An object that moves from one zone to another becomes a new object with no memory of, or relation to, its previous existence. There are seven exceptions to this rule:

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Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
Can a token be exiled and brought back into play by cloudshift?
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: prayos on February 12, 2013, 12:14:37 PM
No.  Tokens cease to exist once they leave the battlefield.

From rules:

704.5d If a token is phased out, or is in a zone other than the battlefield, it ceases to exist.
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 12:19:06 PM
If a creature has a ability. That happens " when it enters the battlefield" will that ability trigger again once it re enters the battlefield from exile?
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Coffee Vampire on February 12, 2013, 12:22:01 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: prayos on February 12, 2013, 12:23:40 PM
Yes.  It counts as a new object and would get all of its triggers.
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 12:25:02 PM
Awesome thanks a lot guys. You have helped me understand exile a lot more. The references to the rules, where can those be located at?
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: prayos on February 12, 2013, 12:26:19 PM
YOu can find them here. (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/rules)
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 12:42:47 PM
Thank you! I didn't even see the comp rules listed there I just read the basic rules.
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Dudecore on February 12, 2013, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 12:42:47 PM
Thank you! I didn't even see the comp rules listed there I just read the basic rules.

There is a comprehensive rules list in this app too. Very helpful in a pinch. :)
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 01:42:18 PM
What do you guys prefer to use as far as a counter goes. Do you have something you put on the card, keep track of it in your head, use paper and pen etc....
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 03:14:21 PM
I never thought to use dice I've been using those flat glass marble things that go into fish aquarium's.
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Coffee Vampire on February 12, 2013, 05:26:21 PM
I use wooden blocks from the game "Risk".
Title: Re: Exile, Counters
Post by: Psyhcicwars on February 12, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Nice