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Magic (The Gathering) => Discussion => Topic started by: Birdbrain on February 11, 2013, 08:31:41 AM

Title: Cascade
Post by: Birdbrain on February 11, 2013, 08:31:41 AM
I you filled a deck with nothing but cascade spells. And possibly {laboratory maniac} would that be an effective strategy?
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Birdbrain on February 11, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
Never mind. You put all the cards back, plus it says "less"
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Moneekahh on February 11, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
I've heard of people trying to make a deck around  {Laboratory Maniac} before. To me, he just seems like a (Terrible) option to sideboard against mill decks.
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Birdbrain on February 11, 2013, 12:59:48 PM
He's really more of a buffer for a {psychic spiral} deck just in case you accidentally over do it. I'm just trying to find ways to turn him from a supporting role to a main charecter
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Bozo_Law on February 11, 2013, 01:31:30 PM
Well, here is legacy Oops! All Spells! that uses him as a win condition.
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Gorzo on February 11, 2013, 04:33:03 PM
There's a reason {Bloodbraid Elf} was just banned in modern - and it's not because she's a 3/2 for 4 mana.
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: scarsabrex on February 11, 2013, 04:51:30 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 11, 2013, 04:33:03 PM
There's a reason {Bloodbraid Elf} was just banned in modern - and it's not because she's a 3/2 for 4 mana.

It's definitely the haste that pushes her over the top😂
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Birdbrain on February 11, 2013, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 11, 2013, 04:33:03 PM
There's a reason {Bloodbraid Elf} was just banned in modern - and it's not because she's a 3/2 for 4 mana.
Maybe they could have made her a 2/2 for 3. Then, the cascade wouldn't have been as powerfull
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Birdbrain on February 11, 2013, 07:20:02 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on February 11, 2013, 07:18:49 PM
Cascade as a mechanic is just broken on top of normal cards, I don't think you really need a figure out a way to break it.
Wasnt trying to. It was {laboratory maniac} I was focused on
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Wally on February 11, 2013, 07:25:24 PM
What are you going to do about mana? And on that note the lands you might need in your deck...
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: scarsabrex on February 11, 2013, 10:58:46 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 11, 2013, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 11, 2013, 04:33:03 PM
There's a reason {Bloodbraid Elf} was just banned in modern - and it's not because she's a 3/2 for 4 mana.
Maybe they could have made her a 2/2 for 3. Then, the cascade wouldn't have been as powerfull

{shardless agent} which gets plenty of play legacy.
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Dudecore on February 12, 2013, 12:40:32 AM
Storm is the most broken mechanic ever. Cascade probably comes in 2nd. Free mana is never a good idea.
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Silent1236 on February 12, 2013, 12:47:40 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on February 12, 2013, 12:40:32 AM
Storm is the most broken mechanic ever. Cascade probably comes in 2nd. Free mana is never a good idea.

I'm guessing your not a big Reanimator fan, then?
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Dudecore on February 12, 2013, 12:50:58 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on February 12, 2013, 12:47:40 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on February 12, 2013, 12:40:32 AM
Storm is the most broken mechanic ever. Cascade probably comes in 2nd. Free mana is never a good idea.

I'm guessing your not a big Reanimator fan, then?

Reanimator is fine. It's actually challenging to play against too. Lots of things have to happen for Reanimator strategy to work. Storm on the other hand, and in every format it was legal, makes games less fun IMO.
Title: Re: Cascade
Post by: Silent1236 on February 12, 2013, 12:57:07 AM
Makes sense.  I just find Reanimator to be a bit cheap with the whole paying 2 mana to bring back whatever you feel like bringing back.  While it does take a bit of a setup, it's still not hard at all to T2 {Sheoldred, Whispering One} consistently. 

As for storm, I wouldn't have the patience to wait for all the spells to start stacking.  And cascade is crazy.  {Bloodbraid Elf} into {Geralf's Messenger}/{Domri Rade}/{Liliana of the Veil} is some . Domri not as much, but still frustrating.  It's like built-in cheating :P