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Title: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Bman0121 on February 10, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
Standard has been the format I have been playing for a real long time I used to have a legacy deck but took it apart for standard which was my worst mistake. Of course I would still play standard if I had a million dollars to afford the rotation every year. Think about it  {Thragtusk} is really only played in standard their are a few modern decks out there that use him but none in legacy.  {Thragtusk} compared to  {Thoughtseize},  {Thragtusk} will only be 25 or more dollars until when it rotates out of standard then it is at most a 8 to 10 dollar card,  {Thoughtseize} unless banned wil forever be 30 or more dollars. Remember  {Stoneforge Mystic} it was 30 dollars and was printed in an event deck and was so good it got banned and it still sees play in legacy and it is only 10 dollars  {Thragtusk} will eventually be impossible to trade and at a 8 dollar value. Not only do you lose value on your standard cards but every 3 months you have to go shell out more money for "just" standard cards I am currently working on building my mono white control deck in legacy and it is cheaper than most standard decks it only coats about 250 dollars and its price will probably always be the same if not go up. Modern is a good format to go into as well except every good card in the format gets banned EDH is super fun and the cards will always stay the same price. EDH, legacy and modern are all forever formats that might be hard to get into but once you do the prive is forever lasting
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Moneekahh on February 10, 2013, 11:47:13 AM
This is exactly why I got out of standard during zendikar block.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Birdbrain on February 10, 2013, 11:53:26 AM
I'll sort of play standerd...at prereleases and booster drafts...oh wait. That's limited format
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: izik99 on February 10, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
I quit Standard because it doesn't have enough variety. Since me and my friends were restricted to only a few sets, our games were the same, over and over again. I now got into EDH- a cheap, fun, awesome format, and I think that's all I'm ever going to play.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Mikefrompluto on February 10, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
Legacy is the way to go. So many archetypes and its a better investment.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Bman0121 on February 10, 2013, 12:33:09 PM
If you guys would go into the legacy category and find the article "playing on a budget" by me i need help with the deck im trying to make
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Silent1236 on February 10, 2013, 01:30:47 PM
I'm going modern because I was not playing years ago, and there are just so many sets to look through in modern alone.  Eventually I'll end up playing legacy, but I'm taking the time to learn the sets in modern first, then I'll make the push to legacy.  But yeah, standard is pretty terrible.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Mikefrompluto on February 10, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
As long as reanimator is always a viable archetype in standard, ill keep a deck for FNM. But I won't invest as much into it as I would legacy.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Fenster on February 10, 2013, 02:34:34 PM
Theres no timmy format... :(
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Silent1236 on February 10, 2013, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: Fenster on February 10, 2013, 02:34:34 PM
Theres no timmy format... :(

Casual :P
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: MisterJH on February 10, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
I would love to build decks for a format but i just get destroyed by everyone in modern online, who jus use decks they find on google that are proven to work, and additionally my lgs is lame, carrying nothing but the latest set and only running drafts from the latest set and never running fnm for any format besides standard.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: izik99 on February 10, 2013, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: Fenster on February 10, 2013, 02:34:34 PM
Theres no timmy format... :(

EDH
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Kaleo42 on February 10, 2013, 03:13:33 PM
I play standard almost exclusively. I dont shell out a ton of money but there are a few reasons for that.
1. I win store credit to pay for fnms and over about 3 months and accumulate a decent amount.
2. I spend that extra credit and about $75 once every three months to play lots of sealed events that get us the cards we need.
3. By "Us" and "we" i mean that I have a shared collection (can also be done as open trading) which insures Dennis Danny and I all have enough to divy out cards to make 3 good decks and something decent for my gf Nicki.
4. I bring commons. Having commons and uncommons with me has allowed me to trade rapidly depreciating common cards for rares that occasionally sky rocket like {hellrider}.
5. I watch what wins and figure out why it wins. Mana screw, bad matchups, and unfavorable topdecks are excuses not reasons for a deck to win or lose. If that stuff is happening it's largely because of the deck construction. Yes crap happens, but that doesnt mean you cant make it less frequent or at least less devastating. This knowledge helps my speculative trading.
6. I help others. By taking time to help others, smiling, and just over all building a good report many people will trade in my favor as a thank you.

My love for standard comes from the problem solver in me making the best of limited resources. I also love that standard favors the innovative. Those that can most rapidly make the best of brand new cards win. Net decking isnt enough since the format changes so fast by the time a generic net decker learns how to play a deck competitively the format has changed and the deck is obsolete or needs revisions. Deck building is hard i know, understanding all the ins and outs of a deck is hard i know, but i love that challenge and i love helping others in that challenge.

I love edh but {kaalia the vast} and {zur the enchanter} need to burn in a fiery pit.

Modern takes similar innovation but bans the staples of decks once a year to "keep the field even."

Legacy is expensive to start but cheap to maintain and it's cards don't transfer to other formats too often. More importantly shops dont have a lot of support for older formats.

Vintage...no

There is my two cents.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Seth5000 on February 10, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
I really only play standard since I don't have many modern or legacy cards even know Ive been playing 7 years I use to sell my cards I have one modern deck but it's not fast enough and the only legacy deck I got gets boring after a while
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Richardalcala on February 10, 2013, 04:57:19 PM
Got tired of updating my deck every 3 mth to so yeah I have a urzatron deck for modern and am a lot closer to finishing my stone blade legacy deck. Played one draft from gatecrash it was fun but just don't care if I see to many cards from it. Play a lot of EDH on mtgo. Love the formats wish they had a daily event for it. 
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Teysa karlov on February 10, 2013, 08:35:03 PM
I play standard but will be quitting it for modern and EDH when Innastrad block cycles out, cos there will not be enough vampires left,
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Everforward on February 10, 2013, 09:12:26 PM
I really enjoy standard format, it levels the playing field and allows for competition under restraint, it does bug some that every one is playing the top tier deck, but at the sane yime it is not imposible to build a competitive rouge deck, it is a lot  difficult to build them but it makes it that much more worth it to go to a tournament with something no one has ever seen before and win. (You can also build your side board to play off those decks better but keep main deck difficult for the top tiers to play)
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Coffee Vampire on February 10, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
What I like about standard: you can make a deck online, with the BEST cards available, and then buy exactly what you want for like 350 bucks. If I did that for modern or legacy, you are looking at a much higher price to get the best cards, from 500 dollar decks to vintage decks over a thousand.

T2 does cost a lot over time, but personally I think the experience is worth it. I like experimenting with the newest cheese!
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Dudecore on February 10, 2013, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on February 10, 2013, 03:13:33 PM
love edh but {kaalia the vast} and {zur the enchanter} need to burn in a fiery pit.

QFT. Mostly everyone knows where I am with Standard. I loathe the format. Every 3 months Wizards decides what you can and cannot play. Aggro decks reign supreme, and while control decks exist (I play one), it is so difficult and costly to play that archtype that it unfun.

Legacy is ultimately the most fulfilling format, as I believe it has the greatest number of archtypes and different ways to play. One could say "well you'll just need to buy X, X, X and X card", those cards are good cards, and you'd see the same gains from purchasing them as you would every other format. I say, it's better to buy 1 {Force of Will} before you buy 2 {Huntmaster of the Fells}.

EDH is an absolute blast. The interactions are crazy, the way the game flows is fun. Certain cards do ruin things (like {Kaalia of the Vast}), but if you're playing with 4 people, she is a crappy 2/2.

Modern is a lost cause, it is 2x the cost of Standard and about 5x less fun.

When I play magic I like the challenge, I like the feeling of proving myself by winning with decks I've designed, and strategies I've employed. I don't like the idea of spending $400 every 3 months to do it. EDH has plenty of restrictions (being singleton, color identity, and 4 way structure). You still spend plenty to make a good deck, but you only need 1 copy and even that isn't nessicary. Plenty of people (including myself) have original dual lands, fetch lands, rediculous tutor cards and needless foils - and all those cards don't produce wins, it's a different game every single time.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: izik99 on February 11, 2013, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on February 11, 2013, 07:15:36 AM
I can't believe nobody else plays standard because that's what other people play?

It's more that newer players go to the simplest, easiest format- Standard. After a while (hopefully) they realize that its either too expensive or too restricted, and move on.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Bman0121 on February 11, 2013, 07:31:38 AM
Standard is great for new players but once your good enough you should probably move on to modern or legacy
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: izik99 on February 11, 2013, 07:36:01 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on February 11, 2013, 07:29:26 AM
Except FNMs are always standard or draft.

Maybe now things might change that modern is a legit format, but I doubt it

Not in terms of Limited, I mean Constructed, sorry.
Title: Re: Reasons I quit standard
Post by: Moneekahh on February 11, 2013, 12:29:54 PM
I play limited but not standard constructed. I personally like modern format best and that is where I focus most of my mtg time and energy. I also love EDH and probably spend way too much money on it. Legacy is just straight up far too expensive for me.