Does {Grafdigger's cage} affect cards like {Animate dead} and {Exhume} (I think this one yes)
"Creatures can't enter the battlefield from the graveyards or libraries."
Yep, rip up your copies of {Exhume}, it's garbage now. (Seriously don't! Put them in an envelop and mail them to me for "recycling". ;D)
Quote from: BlackJester on February 10, 2012, 12:21:06 PM
"Creatures can't enter the battlefield from the graveyards or libraries."
Yep, rip up your copies of {Exhume}, it's garbage now. (Seriously don't! Put them in an envelop and mail them to me for "recycling". ;D)
Boo I hope my friends don't see this card cause I can kiss my graveborn modified deck goodbye ... Unless I put some {Disenchant} or similar cards I would have to rework it again I just finished making it perfect darn you card :(
The Cage is an absolute hoser for so many decks out there. That's why I love it when it's on my side of the table, but hate it when it's on their side.
That had to do something with the reaccurance if flashback and now undying too.
What's the problem it's easy to destroy just you'd an naturalize or something like that I have no problem get rid of them
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 10, 2012, 01:01:12 PM
That had to do something with the reaccurance if flashback and now undying too.
...to keep Pod deck in check, to give answers against Legacy/Vintage Reanimator decks, if they are expecting players to be able to cast spells right from the library... (???)
Good point BJ, they kinda threw that last part about casting from libraries in there outa nowhere. I know there are cards and combos to do that but not that much to deserve a wooden stake to stop it.
I think it's a hint of things to come. Like {Tarmgoyf} did with PWs.
That or they fear {Future Sight} decks. Probably, they just like symmetry.
Quote from: BlackJester on February 10, 2012, 03:21:31 PM
I think it's a hint of things to come. Like {Tarmgoyf} did with PWs.
That or they fear {Future Sight} decks. Probably, they just like symmetry.
I was gonna say that same thing. We will see when LR comes out if is a hint of things to come.
there are some reveals from top of library like the future sight also (at least one called {garruk's horde}), and also a green card that you can cast from library when you search in your library
{Lurking Predators} :(
{Green Sun's Zenith}? Or does that do something different?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 13, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
{Green Sun's Zenith}? Or does that do something different?
Cage wins.
Yea cage even shuts down {rampant growth} type cards like Prime Time, Sam, and {evolving wilds}....that cage is a meany head come to think of it 😡
Didn't think of it against ramp decks : O
Might put the one I have in my grixis deck ; )
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 13, 2012, 09:27:26 PM
Yea cage even shuts down {rampant growth} type cards like Prime Time, Sam, and {evolving wilds}....that cage is a meany head come to think of it 😡
Cage doesn't stop lands from coming it from libraries, only creatures. I don't even know what Prime Time is. ???
Quote from: BlackJester on February 13, 2012, 10:08:57 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 13, 2012, 09:27:26 PM
Yea cage even shuts down {rampant growth} type cards like Prime Time, Sam, and {evolving wilds}....that cage is a meany head come to think of it 😡
Cage doesn't stop lands from coming it from libraries, only creatures. I don't even know what Prime Time is. ???
My guess is that he meant {Primeval Titan} which as you just pointed out, it won't stop, but for his cousin the {Sun Titan}, it would be a bit of a show stopper.
Thanks Wally. Learning something new everyday, eh? It would put an end to Sam's creature returns, but not the O-rings.
I just remembered some of it from the nicknames for cards thread. :)
Quote from: BlackJester on February 13, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 13, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
{Green Sun's Zenith}? Or does that do something different?
Cage wins.
This cage is troubling my thought process. If it does not shut down lands from being played then why would it shut down Green Sun's? The cage says you can't Cast from the library but Green Subs says to put a creature from library into play....it is not casting the creature.....
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 14, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 13, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 13, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
{Green Sun's Zenith}? Or does that do something different?
Cage wins.
This cage is troubling my thought process. If it does not shut down lands from being played then why would it shut down Green Sun's? The cage says you can't Cast from the library but Green Subs says to put a creature from library into play....it is not casting the creature.....
Read ALL of {Grafdigger's Cage}. 😉 I made the same mistake myself.
Quote from: BlackJester on February 14, 2012, 04:05:23 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 14, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 13, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 13, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
{Green Sun's Zenith}? Or does that do something different?
Cage wins.
This cage is troubling my thought process. If it does not shut down lands from being played then why would it shut down Green Sun's? The cage says you can't Cast from the library but Green Subs says to put a creature from library into play....it is not casting the creature.....
Read ALL of {Grafdigger's Cage}. 😉 I made the same mistake myself.
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