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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: HandsomeStallion on February 10, 2012, 01:08:26 AM

Title: Mimic vat + archdemon of greed
Post by: HandsomeStallion on February 10, 2012, 01:08:26 AM
This combo is turn a turn 6 win. I have a Mimic Vat in the bf, sacrifice a human and transform the Ravenous Demon into Archdemon of Greed. I attack and then Fling it for 18 possible points, then I exile the archdemon of greed under mimic vat.

Now the controversy is what the ruling is for dead transformed cards.

Person A says it is still ravenous demon because it is not possible to have a creature card with no mana cost other than the bf (ex. Creature Tokens).
Person B says that I will have the archdemon of greed due to the fact that it died as the archdemon of greed and therefore remains that way either in graveyard or exile. And Mimic Vat states the following.
Imprint- Whenever a  nontoken creature is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may exile that card. If you do, return eachother card exiled with Mimic Vat to its owner's graveyard.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Mimic vat + archdemon of greed
Post by: BlackJester on February 10, 2012, 01:42:23 AM
The {Mimic Vat} will give you {Ravenous Demon}s.

The imprint ability will remove the card.  All DFC (double faced cards) only have the properties of the "sunny side" (the side with mana) at any time other then when on the bf and transformed.

Pity, looked like a gooder.   :(
Title: Re: Mimic vat + archdemon of greed
Post by: HandsomeStallion on February 10, 2012, 01:55:46 AM
I strongly agree. Lol the combo was too good to be true.
Second question is if I can still put a Rav demon token and sac a humAn to transform it into a arch demon of greed and attack?
Title: Re: Mimic vat + archdemon of greed
Post by: BlackJester on February 10, 2012, 02:13:54 AM
Tokens can't transform.  Only the actual DFCs themselves.
Title: Re: Mimic vat + archdemon of greed
Post by: HandsomeStallion on February 10, 2012, 02:21:15 AM
Ok thanks Black Jester.
I guess I'll run my tempered steel a little while longer until I have another idea :)
But I'll test my demon chow this Friday now that I know the legal play on transformed cards :D