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Title: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2013, 04:26:28 AM

InfinitiveElves

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Cavern of Souls}
14 {Forest}

18 lands


4 {Llanowar Elves}
4 {Elvish Mystic}
3 {Nettle Sentinel}
1 {Fauna Shaman}
4 {Wren's Run Vanquisher}
4 {Bramblewood Paragon}
3 {Talara's Battalion}
4 {Imperious Perfect}
4 {Elvish Archdruid}
1 {Ezuri, Renegade Leader}
2 {Wren's Run Packmaster}
3 {Joraga Warcaller}

37 creatures


2 {Umbral Mantle}
3 {Lead the Stampede}

5 other spells


Sideboard

3 {Essence Warden}
3 {Thornweald Archer}
3 {Tajuru Preserver}
1 {Fauna Shaman}
1 {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}
2 {Nature's Claim}
2 {Creeping Corrosion}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:
My girlfriend wants to play Modern on the 9th, my buddy let me borrow the remnants of a Bloodbraid deck, this is what I did with it.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2013, 04:27:22 AM
Any ideas? Really need some Sideboard help
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2013, 07:28:08 PM
No one has any thoughts?
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
I need to fit in Vines, what to drop?
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: GoJuDragon on February 03, 2013, 07:56:19 PM
Id love to see {gyre sage} in here and maybe a bomb like {craterhoof behemoth}
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2013, 07:58:59 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on February 03, 2013, 07:56:19 PM
Id love to see {gyre sage} in here and maybe a bomb like {craterhoof behemoth}
{Gyre Sage} is way to situational, the bomb idea is plausible though, you're thinking Craterhoof huh?
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: ModernMaster on February 03, 2013, 08:03:41 PM
This is gojus ipad account. I think craterhoof would be good... Or maybe an eldrazi lord
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2013, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: ModernMaster on February 03, 2013, 08:03:41 PM
This is gojus ipad account. I think craterhoof would be good... Or maybe an eldrazi lord
Emrakul and {Summoning Trap} is in the sideboard, in case I play heavy control, this deck just gets shut down by removal though, I can't figure out what to take out for {Vines of Vastwood}, need to drop 2 more cards.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: ModernMaster on February 03, 2013, 08:22:37 PM
I'd take out 1 wrens run pack master for sure. Idk what else... Maybe only run 2 vines..?
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2013, 08:29:05 PM
Quote from: ModernMaster on February 03, 2013, 08:22:37 PM
I'd take out 1 wrens run pack master for sure. Idk what else... Maybe only run 2 vines..?
I was thinking maybe 2 as well, but the it's not really worth putting in don't you think?
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: MisterJH on February 04, 2013, 12:23:40 AM
Id run 3 vines maybe 4.. {terra stomper} is a card i personally love for uncounterability against control, but of course they have bounce.. But i like him regardless
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: Wally on February 04, 2013, 02:42:21 AM
Suggestion.
{Swiftfoot Boots} for the haste mana tapping and the bonus hexproof :)
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 04, 2013, 03:46:01 AM
There we go, got the Vines in, even fixed up the sideboard a bit.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on February 05, 2013, 08:08:20 PM
Honestly it seems too slow to me... Elves can be much quicke...;) even on modern...;) 4th-5th turn emrakul with no problem..;)
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 05, 2013, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 05, 2013, 08:08:20 PM
Honestly it seems too slow to me... Elves can be much quicke...;) even on modern...;) 4th-5th turn emrakul with no problem..;)
I can get infinite mana on turn 4 if that's any consolation, lol
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on February 06, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
Oi did not notice those  {Umbral Mantle} there...:D but would not be better  {Staff of Domination}???
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 06, 2013, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 06, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
Oi did not notice those  {Umbral Mantle} there...:D but would not be better  {Staff of Domination}???
That's not bad actually, but the Staff doesn't give infinite pump as well. With Umbral you tap for InfiniteX, then use the excess to make your other dudes infinite/infinites as well, then they usually have Trample thanks to {Bramblewood Paragon}, gg.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on February 06, 2013, 05:45:24 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 06, 2013, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 06, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
Oi did not notice those  {Umbral Mantle} there...:D but would not be better  {Staff of Domination}???
That's not bad actually, but the Staff doesn't give infinite pump as well. With Umbral you tap for InfiniteX, then use the excess to make your other dudes infinite/infinites as well, then they usually have Trample thanks to {Bramblewood Paragon}, gg.

True but with staff u can draw half a deck draw  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}, cast it put bambilion elves on table and gg...;) and  {Ezuri, Renegade Leader} gives u the trample...;)

But ur idea works the same good way... Only I simply like the staff...:D
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 06, 2013, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 06, 2013, 05:45:24 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 06, 2013, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 06, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
Oi did not notice those  {Umbral Mantle} there...:D but would not be better  {Staff of Domination}???
That's not bad actually, but the Staff doesn't give infinite pump as well. With Umbral you tap for InfiniteX, then use the excess to make your other dudes infinite/infinites as well, then they usually have Trample thanks to {Bramblewood Paragon}, gg.

True but with staff u can draw half a deck draw  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}, cast it put bambilion elves on table and gg...;) and  {Ezuri, Renegade Leader} gives u the trample...;)

But ur idea works the same good way... Only I simply like the staff...:D
It is really good actually, lol. If end up being able to keep this deck I may use it in the future, it's a brutal card
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on February 07, 2013, 02:05:38 AM
I am glad to give u another one possible win condition option...;)

I love elves...:D Play them on modern, Legacy and now if I will be able to assemble standard ones then even on standard...:D

Of course there are always cards like  {Regal Force} that u could play as well...:D 1 piece in the deck could help u with drawing... I hate DCI for banning  {Glimpse of Nature} in modern... Sigh...
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 07, 2013, 04:11:51 AM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 07, 2013, 02:05:38 AM
I am glad to give u another one possible win condition option...;)

I love elves...:D Play them on modern, Legacy and now if I will be able to assemble standard ones then even on standard...:D

Of course there are always cards like  {Regal Force} that u could play as well...:D 1 piece in the deck could help u with drawing... I hate DCI for banning  {Glimpse of Nature} in modern... Sigh...
Don't get me started on Glimpse, I want that card for this deck soooo bad! Although other decks would abuse it a little more I think.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on February 07, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
Hehe where jund woul be if elves could use glimpse...:D I would be able to kill in 3rd round consiszently no matter of removal...:D
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 07, 2013, 11:12:30 AM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 07, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
Hehe where jund woul be if elves could use glimpse...:D I would be able to kill in 3rd round consiszently no matter of removal...:D
Exactly, there's a very good reason for it, I just wish it wasn't so 😞
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on February 07, 2013, 02:57:36 PM
Tsss still cannot see that good reason... I see only weird reason supporting money card decks...:D the same thing is  {Green Sun's Zenith}...:D
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 11, 2013, 06:07:59 PM
My girlfriend piloted this deck extremely well this weekend, my buddy tipped me off to some sick sideboard tech for Tron though, {Thornweald Archer}!!! He wrecks Emmy so hard!
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on February 12, 2013, 05:05:41 AM
Oh I love that guy as well..;) he is real libe saver...;) Bcs I did not play when FS was out I discovered him bcs of DotP 2013 and I fall in love with that tiny skillful elf...;) he is in many of my sideboards...:D
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 12, 2013, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on February 12, 2013, 05:05:41 AM
Oh I love that guy as well..;) he is real libe saver...;) Bcs I did not play when FS was out I discovered him bcs of DotP 2013 and I fall in love with that tiny skillful elf...;) he is in many of my sideboards...:D
I have him in my EDH, I didn't think about how he 1-hit KO's Emmy though!
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: Leevai420 on February 20, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
U can go infinite with {staff of domination} archdruid and any other 4 elves. You tap the archdruid for 5 then abuse the tap ad untap a creature ability on staff to get infinite mana ten life and finally draws.

Also recommend green suns zenith.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 20, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: Leevai420 on February 20, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
U can go infinite with {staff of domination} archdruid and any other 4 elves. You tap the archdruid for 5 then abuse the tap ad untap a creature ability on staff to get infinite mana ten life and finally draws.

Also recommend green suns zenith.
That's the idea with {Umbral Mantle}, but the Mantle allows a free pump essentially because it equips for 0, and it requires less Elves to go Infinite. Also {Green Sun's Zenith} is banned in Modern.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 20, 2013, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: Wizardmook on February 20, 2013, 05:33:43 PM
Hi how do you get infinite mana, don't really understand  {Umbral Mantle} at all. 😭
In order to pull it off you need:
- {Elvish Archdruid} in play with at least 3 other elves.
- Then you equip {Umbral Mantle} to Archdruid, and then tap him to add 4 {G} (Or more, depending on how many elves are in play
- Then you use the Mantle's ability to untap Archdruid for just {3}, then you tap him again and add {4}, do this over and over again and you get infinite mana, while at the same time, pumping your Archdruid for +2/+2 each time he untaps.

- Also, because of the fact that {Umbral Mantle}'s equip cost is 0, you can then proceed to equip it to all of your other Elves, and Untap them infinite times, making your guys Power and Toughness Infinite/Infinite, and usually, thanks to {Bramblewood Paragon}, a majority of your X/X guys will have Trample, so they can't be chump blocked.

- And, if you have an {Imperious Perfect} in play, you can slap the Mantle on her after making infinite mana, and then make Infinite Elves as well by using her own ability.

- Finally, if you have {Elvish Archdruid} in play with at least 2 other Elves, you can use {Umbral Mantle} to tap and untap him infinite times without producing any excess mana just to make Archdruid infinitely large and potentially win very very early.

The described combo is only a ridiculous infinite win that this deck holds, and is no way the way this deck wins, this deck is EXTREMELY aggressive, and applies a ton of pressure even without the Mantle.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 21, 2013, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: Wizardmook on February 21, 2013, 04:14:52 AM
All makes sense now, very nasty!! Thanks for the explanation πŸ˜€
No problem dude!
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 28, 2013, 08:08:39 AM
So I just realized the other day that the untap part of Umbral is a cost, so in order to infinite out your non-Archdruid guys, you either have to have mana-producers, or simply level-max your Treespeakers in order to make them mana producers, which is still fine, the deck still works great, the infinite combo just toned down slightly. The infinite Elves is actually way more important now though.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: MisterJH on February 28, 2013, 10:19:56 PM
I dont understad how the archer stops emrakul, who has protection?
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: whitedrake on March 01, 2013, 05:00:55 AM
Quote from: MisterJH on February 28, 2013, 10:19:56 PM
I dont understad how the archer stops emrakul, who has protection?

Protecion from coloured spells...;) not protection from everything or creatures...

His protection does not prevent coloured creatures to block him...;) then that small elf with reach and deadtouch is nice solution....;)
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: Bman0121 on March 03, 2013, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on February 28, 2013, 10:19:56 PM
I dont understad how the archer stops emrakul, who has protection?
You cant  {Path to Exile} a  {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} but you can  {Oblivion Ring} it
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: MacUser001 on March 03, 2013, 10:22:51 PM
Why no {Elvish Champion}s? They aren't really expensive and I doubt you'll be seein many other elf players. Plus Forestwalk will be easy to pull off in the current meta!
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on April 17, 2013, 12:37:57 PM
Bump for Bozo_Law
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
While the infinite mana combo seems nice, it's really too slow. Run some  {Adaptive Automaton} for boost as well as (if you aren't already) some of {Llanowar Elves} and {Arbor Elf} for mana boost. After that, your {Imperious Perfect}, {Joraga Warcaller}, and {Bramblewood Paragon} should boost you. Keep the {Elvish Archdruid}.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on April 18, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
While the infinite mana combo seems nice, it's really too slow. Run some  {Adaptive Automaton} for boost as well as (if you aren't already) some of {Llanowar Elves} and {Arbor Elf} for mana boost. After that, your {Imperious Perfect}, {Joraga Warcaller}, and {Bramblewood Paragon} should boost you. Keep the {Elvish Archdruid}.
How is it too slow? It can win on turn 3
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 18, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
While the infinite mana combo seems nice, it's really too slow. Run some  {Adaptive Automaton} for boost as well as (if you aren't already) some of {Llanowar Elves} and {Arbor Elf} for mana boost. After that, your {Imperious Perfect}, {Joraga Warcaller}, and {Bramblewood Paragon} should boost you. Keep the {Elvish Archdruid}.
How is it too slow? It can win on turn 3

A  {Surgical Extraction} and the mana combo's done. I was saying the combo was too slow and suggesting fillers. If I'm utterly wrong, please show me how.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on April 18, 2013, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 18, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
While the infinite mana combo seems nice, it's really too slow. Run some  {Adaptive Automaton} for boost as well as (if you aren't already) some of {Llanowar Elves} and {Arbor Elf} for mana boost. After that, your {Imperious Perfect}, {Joraga Warcaller}, and {Bramblewood Paragon} should boost you. Keep the {Elvish Archdruid}.
How is it too slow? It can win on turn 3

A  {Surgical Extraction} and the mana combo's done. I was saying the combo was too slow and suggesting fillers. If I'm utterly wrong, please show me how.
What would Surgy Etract hit though? And not many sideboards are running Surg because there are better graveyard hate decks. It is not always hitting what you want a lot of the time. When it does, the player could easily change the zone of the card. It is more of a downfall then it is advantage that it is not worth a slot in the 75 slots. A card can disrupt it, doesn't mean it will.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: abstractApathist on April 19, 2013, 10:52:21 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on April 18, 2013, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 18, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
While the infinite mana combo seems nice, it's really too slow. Run some  {Adaptive Automaton} for boost as well as (if you aren't already) some of {Llanowar Elves} and {Arbor Elf} for mana boost. After that, your {Imperious Perfect}, {Joraga Warcaller}, and {Bramblewood Paragon} should boost you. Keep the {Elvish Archdruid}.
How is it too slow? It can win on turn 3

A  {Surgical Extraction} and the mana combo's done. I was saying the combo was too slow and suggesting fillers. If I'm utterly wrong, please show me how.
What would Surgy Etract hit though? And not many sideboards are running Surg because there are better graveyard hate decks. It is not always hitting what you want a lot of the time. When it does, the player could easily change the zone of the card. It is more of a downfall then it is advantage that it is not worth a slot in the 75 slots. A card can disrupt it, doesn't mean it will.
true, I'm just saying if your mantle gets hit by   {Hide // Seek} or  {Wear // Tear} or  {Crush} or  {Krosan Grip} etc. the mana combo's done. I'd put some more mana ramp in in its place
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on April 20, 2013, 02:44:54 AM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 19, 2013, 10:52:21 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on April 18, 2013, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 18, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on April 18, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
While the infinite mana combo seems nice, it's really too slow. Run some  {Adaptive Automaton} for boost as well as (if you aren't already) some of {Llanowar Elves} and {Arbor Elf} for mana boost. After that, your {Imperious Perfect}, {Joraga Warcaller}, and {Bramblewood Paragon} should boost you. Keep the {Elvish Archdruid}.
How is it too slow? It can win on turn 3

A  {Surgical Extraction} and the mana combo's done. I was saying the combo was too slow and suggesting fillers. If I'm utterly wrong, please show me how.
What would Surgy Etract hit though? And not many sideboards are running Surg because there are better graveyard hate decks. It is not always hitting what you want a lot of the time. When it does, the player could easily change the zone of the card. It is more of a downfall then it is advantage that it is not worth a slot in the 75 slots. A card can disrupt it, doesn't mean it will.
true, I'm just saying if your mantle gets hit by   {Hide // Seek} or  {Wear // Tear} or  {Crush} or  {Krosan Grip} etc. the mana combo's done. I'd put some more mana ramp in in its place
The combo isn't even close to necessary for winning, this deck is extremely aggressive.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on August 17, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Been a while since I updated this deck, somehow we made this thing more aggressive. Figured I'd post what the current iteration is.
Title: Re: InfinitiveElves
Post by: Mlerner12 on August 17, 2013, 07:21:31 PM
Might want to call this deck... "Infinelfe", if you will.


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