Dose anyone else think this cards is OVER POWERED and could become close to the best or the best card in standard
Right now it's my favorite card ever and I've got to have it in any deck with BW in it like i'm livin this card soo much
What's you peoples opinion on it
It's definitely powerful for it's power and toughness being equivalent to its casting cost, also it's evasive being that sorcery speed removal won't be able to do anything to it. The turn you swing with him is already 9 damage, assuming you hit the opponent with the 5 damage. Your also staying in the game with the 2 points of life gained each turn. He's very powerful, but he can still be dealt with. He is the strongest of this set I believe.
He's good but only because of innistrad. In innistrad they have so many flickers it's unreal, that includes {restoration angel} and {cloud shift} also with {unburial rites} it will just get resurrected. With a good enough control deck it will be so difficult to get rid of, especially since it exiles itself at the end of turn.
He also can't be the subject of the legend rule.
He leaves play so even I ur opponent casts one it will be gone at the end of their turn and urs will come back into play. Just an awesome bonus for this guy. So instant speed removal is pretty much the only option.
Quote from: Leevai420 on January 31, 2013, 04:26:02 PM
He also can't be the subject of the legend rule.
He leaves play so even I ur opponent casts one it will be gone at the end of their turn and urs will come back into play. Just an awesome bonus for this guy. So instant speed removal is pretty much the only option.
The exile isn't mandatory
Omg I just tried to make a WOW charecter with the name Obzedat and it was already used
That's funny cause I just tried to make a wow character named seth5000 and it was taken too!
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on January 31, 2013, 06:14:33 PM
That's funny cause I just tried to make a wow character named seth5000 and it was taken too!
I don't got one named that but I think my friend might have had one a long time ago with that name NJ
{Obzedat, Ghost Council}
I don't think there was a link to it yet.
Thanks
My pleasure
And I think 4 of these were pulled at my prerelease. Unfortunately for them they weren't playing orzhov.
Did some playing with Obzedat on cockatrice and I honestly thought he was phenomenal! There's just a lot of damage-dealing potential there. And it is really nice to have the option to either deal a little more damage or give yourself a blocker. Options are always nice.
Alllll of u are just over rating this guy, RDW pounds his face. You are already dead if u let rdw get passes turn 5 and Evan if they try to board wipe u you have boros charm. And the same turn u play obzedent they get there thundermaw!
Sorry if is was a bit harsh
Hes good, and pulling him in a draft is a game winner all on its own.. But hes not THAAAAT good
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on February 02, 2013, 09:12:14 AM
Alllll of u are just over rating this guy, RDW pounds his face. You are already dead if u let rdw get passes turn 5 and Evan if they try to board wipe u you have boros charm. And the same turn u play obzedent they get there thundermaw!
RDW doesn't have a whole lot of 5 damage removal for him. In Orzhov, there is plenty of removal for Thundermaw ({Ultimate Price}, {Murder}, even things like the reprint of {Iona's Judgment} that has a different name that I can't remember :P ). And then you throw in {Blind Obedience} for the RDWs, or, like myself, use him in an esper deck and you've got {Syncopate}s and such to keep key creatures off the field.
I don't know, I just think Obzedat is super good. Maybe a bit overhyped, but not extremely.
I wouldny mind a playset or 5..
I just got a foil obzedat in my booster...trade anyone?
Quote from: Nissassagame on February 02, 2013, 09:32:42 PM
I just got a foil obzedat in my booster...trade anyone?
Want!!!!
Ill give you basically whateer you want from me +stuff you dont want.. Unfortunately i cant update my TB just yet as it will not allow me to update the app with gatecrash
I am aggresively trading my {Obzedat, Ghost Council}s that I pull (2 so far) because I know when people actually get to play with them, they'll see how bad it is. It's really bad.
Ok aggressively give it to me for free then xD
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 02, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
I am aggresively trading my {Obzedat, Ghost Council}s that I pull (2 so far) because I know when people actually get to play with them, they'll see how bad it is. It's really bad.
How in the world is that card bad? You're playing it wrong, that card is amazing, I'm sorry. The mana cost is just right, and he's a beatstick.
And hes immune to detrimental enchantments for the most part.. However he is lost as a defender if you wish to abuse his ability.. Idt hes nearly as great as he first looked now thats ive really thought about it, but is he good? Hell yes
Not to mention you can run cloud shift and restoration angel with him.?!
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on February 03, 2013, 02:04:35 AM
Not to mention you can run cloud shift and restoration angel with him.?!
And then there's that XD
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on February 03, 2013, 02:04:35 AM
Not to mention you can run cloud shift and restoration angel with him.?!
I know! I wonder what made wizards think "{Restoration Angel} just isn't powerful enough, lets give her this tank to work with!"
{Obzedat, Ghost Council} with a {Healer of the Pride} or two out would be pretty sweet.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 03, 2013, 08:34:11 PM
{Obzedat, Ghost Council} with a {Healer of the Pride} or two out would be pretty sweet.
That is so mean and good at the same time XD
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 02, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
I am aggresively trading my {Obzedat, Ghost Council}s that I pull (2 so far) because I know when people actually get to play with them, they'll see how bad it is. It's really bad.
Care to elaborate? I am curious as to how this card is bad?
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 03, 2013, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 02, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
I am aggresively trading my {Obzedat, Ghost Council}s that I pull (2 so far) because I know when people actually get to play with them, they'll see how bad it is. It's really bad.
Care to elaborate? I am curious as to how this card is bad?
As am I. 2 drain every turn, plus 5 combat damage (it has haste) seems good to me. 7 total damage every turn, plus 2 life gain. And if they block it, chances are the creature won't stand up to the assault
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 03, 2013, 09:17:01 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 03, 2013, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 02, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
I am aggresively trading my {Obzedat, Ghost Council}s that I pull (2 so far) because I know when people actually get to play with them, they'll see how bad it is. It's really bad.
Care to elaborate? I am curious as to how this card is bad?
As am I. 2 drain every turn, plus 5 combat damage (it has haste) seems good to me. 7 total damage every turn, plus 2 life gain. And if they block it, chances are the creature won't stand up to the assault
No haste.
Quote from: izik99 on February 03, 2013, 09:58:29 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 03, 2013, 09:17:01 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 03, 2013, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 02, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
I am aggresively trading my {Obzedat, Ghost Council}s that I pull (2 so far) because I know when people actually get to play with them, they'll see how bad it is. It's really bad.
Care to elaborate? I am curious as to how this card is bad?
As am I. 2 drain every turn, plus 5 combat damage (it has haste) seems good to me. 7 total damage every turn, plus 2 life gain. And if they block it, chances are the creature won't stand up to the assault
No haste.
Sorry, thought you meant immeadiately. I didnt notice the part at the bottom.
Personally, I think naya is better since they have thragtusk for blocks and life gain and the beats of Boros, thundermaw, and maybe some hellrider-token action. Obzedat is nice, but he needs to hit three times to wipe out thragtusk life gain.
Thrag is a 5 life swing upon etb, and obzedat is a 4 life swing upon etb. So it would just take 2 turns for Obzedat to do as well as swagtusk in terms of putting your life above your opponent's.
That being said I still agree with you though...naya gets all the toys lol
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 03, 2013, 10:11:19 PM
Thrag is a 5 life swing upon etb, and obzedat is a 4 life swing upon etb. So it would just take 2 turns for Obzedat to do as well as swagtusk in terms of putting your life above your opponent's.
That being said I still agree with you though...naya gets all the toys lol
Fair enough, though a well timed skull crack would mess them up, especially if they are looking for restoration shenanigans
Quote from: Boringanarchy on February 03, 2013, 10:13:22 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 03, 2013, 10:11:19 PM
Thrag is a 5 life swing upon etb, and obzedat is a 4 life swing upon etb. So it would just take 2 turns for Obzedat to do as well as swagtusk in terms of putting your life above your opponent's.
That being said I still agree with you though...naya gets all the toys lol
Fair enough, though a well timed skull crack would mess them up, especially if they are looking for restoration shenanigans
Can't argue with that...skullcrack is da boss to end all midrange decks.
I pulled 2 {Obzedat, Ghost Council}. I'm trying to trade them. Not because it's not great, because it isn't the type of card I'd run. I don't currently see a deck it fits into. It dodges sorceries and enchantment, but doesn't swing. I don't know if I'd pay 5 for a card with rebound that deals 2 and I gain 2.
The jury is still out, but so far it seems pretty righteous.
Quote from: Dudecore on February 03, 2013, 11:38:40 PM
I pulled 2 {Obzedat, Ghost Council}. I'm trying to trade them. Not because it's not great, because it isn't the type of card I'd run. I don't currently see a deck it fits into. It dodges sorceries and enchantment, but doesn't swing. I don't know if I'd pay 5 for a card with rebound that deals 2 and I gain 2.
The jury is still out, but so far it seems pretty righteous.
Well I might actually be interested in it but your needed is very limited. Or should I say un-limited
I'll update it soon. I basically all but quit standard, I gotta wait for the meta to shake out.
I would trade it for a foil {Godless Shrine} and some EDH stuff. Basically foil copies from my Dromar EDH deck. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=17406.0)
Ok probably won't have much started in NPH and my foils are packed away.
Quote from: Dudecore on February 03, 2013, 11:38:40 PM
I pulled 2 {Obzedat, Ghost Council}. I'm trying to trade them. Not because it's not great, because it isn't the type of card I'd run. I don't currently see a deck it fits into. It dodges sorceries and enchantment, but doesn't swing. I don't know if I'd pay 5 for a card with rebound that deals 2 and I gain 2.
The jury is still out, but so far it seems pretty righteous.
Do you mean that in most situations you would not want to swing with him? Because he can swing as he is given haste after coming back from exile.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 04, 2013, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on February 03, 2013, 11:38:40 PM
I pulled 2 {Obzedat, Ghost Council}. I'm trying to trade them. Not because it's not great, because it isn't the type of card I'd run. I don't currently see a deck it fits into. It dodges sorceries and enchantment, but doesn't swing. I don't know if I'd pay 5 for a card with rebound that deals 2 and I gain 2.
The jury is still out, but so far it seems pretty righteous.
Do you mean that in most situations you would not want to swing with him? Because he can swing as he is given haste after coming back from exile.
You can swing with it, but it's a 5/5 without evasion, so I feel like it trades with most creatures for 5 mana cost. {Thragtusk}, {Thundermaw Hellkite}, various {Silverblade Paladin} bonded dudes. I don't feel like I'm attacking profitably with it, but in certain situations it does work.
Edit: At worst, someone chumps it with a 1/1, {Geralf's Messenger}, ect then morbid into a {Brimstone Volley} or {Tragic Slip}. I'm not saying its a bad card, I am just gonna let it play out. It's neither "OMGWTFban! or "This is Gideon bad". We've had the card for 3 days.
Yeah that's what I thought you meant. You are right, a lot of people won't be swinging with it. And it limits your use of boardwipes. But that is about as far as drawbacks go.
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on February 02, 2013, 09:12:14 AM
Alllll of u are just over rating this guy, RDW pounds his face. You are already dead if u let rdw get passes turn 5 and Evan if they try to board wipe u you have boros charm. And the same turn u play obzedent they get there thundermaw!
Umm I normaly get him out on turn 4 so he's a win and now I got 2 of him so my orzhov deck is almost conplete
Quote from: Seth5000 on February 05, 2013, 04:57:35 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on February 02, 2013, 09:12:14 AM
Alllll of u are just over rating this guy, RDW pounds his face. You are already dead if u let rdw get passes turn 5 and Evan if they try to board wipe u you have boros charm. And the same turn u play obzedent they get there thundermaw!
Umm I normaly get him out on turn 4 so he's a win and now I got 2 of him so my orzhov deck is almost conplete
Turn four, you say?
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 05, 2013, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: Seth5000 on February 05, 2013, 04:57:35 PM
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on February 02, 2013, 09:12:14 AM
Alllll of u are just over rating this guy, RDW pounds his face. You are already dead if u let rdw get passes turn 5 and Evan if they try to board wipe u you have boros charm. And the same turn u play obzedent they get there thundermaw!
Umm I normaly get him out on turn 4 so he's a win and now I got 2 of him so my orzhov deck is almost conplete
Turn four, you say?
Keyrune or add green Like my junk deck and get it turn 3
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