I am just curious what would happen b/c this happen to me, I was confuse what would go off 1st. My friend has a Nightfall predator out, w one untapped mountain. I unholy rights for a fiend hunter, a choose to exile nightfall predator. He responded by tapping for nightfall's ability, and said his nightfall was fighting my fiend and die. Was this played correct? If someone could show merge correct ruling, that would amazing. Thank you! (sorry for any grammer issues, haven't slept all night XD)
{nightfall predetor} {field hunter}
Quote from: Zerohero on February 08, 2012, 09:23:36 AM
I am just curious what would happen b/c this happen to me, I was confuse what would go off 1st. My friend has a Nightfall predator out, w one untapped mountain. I unholy rights for a fiend hunter, a choose to exile nightfall predator. He responded by tapping for nightfall's ability, and said his nightfall was fighting my fiend and die. Was this played correct? If someone could show merge correct ruling, that would amazing. Thank you! (sorry for any grammer issues, haven't slept all night XD)
He can respond by fighting your {fiend hunter} And killing it but the exile trigger will still exile the nightfall.....forever!!!!! The reason his is not returned is because the {fiend hunter} second ability will resolve before the first and there will be no target to return yet.
Sweet thank you!
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I had the same scenario kinda. My friend used his {nightfall predator}'s ability to make my {cemetery reaper} fight the predator. I in response to him activating that ability played a {doom blade}. The way we resolved this was my doom blade resolved first and killed the nightfall predator. Then since there was nothing for my cemetery reaper to fight I kept it. Was this correct?
Your instant is not fast enough to prevent a permanent's ability unless you are using {bind} or similar. Your reaper should have died by the predator and then your blade would have killed the predetor.
I thought spells and abilities went on the stack and then resolved in reverse order in which they were put on the stack.
Spells are last in first out like you state. Permanents are faster than spells and are harder to counter.
But the ability still goes on the stack right? Unless I am missing something you contradicted yourself. If it goes on the stack then it should be first in last out.....right?
This is always a tough one to explain. Maybe BJ can say it better.
Quote from: Thattallguy on February 08, 2012, 05:49:41 PM
I had the same scenario kinda. My friend used his {nightfall predator}'s ability to make my {cemetery reaper} fight the predator. I in response to him activating that ability played a {doom blade}. The way we resolved this was my doom blade resolved first and killed the nightfall predator. Then since there was nothing for my cemetery reaper to fight I kept it. Was this correct?
After some thought I believe your decision was correct.
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 08, 2012, 08:36:36 PM
This is always a tough one to explain. Maybe BJ can say it better.
You rang? ðŸ""
You are correct, cltrn81, but not for the reasons you say. These are all fast effects and will all be put on the stack FILO (first in last out). The {Doom Blade} will kill the werewolf, but when the fight ability resolves, with the wolf gone the game will use the last known info. That is the wolf's p/t right before it died, enough to kill the Reaper.
I know, Cemetary Reaper vs Werewolf ghost, right? ðŸ'»
Thanks BJ. Kinda confusing but helpful. So basically if something goes on the stack wheather it is a spell or ability it has to resolve. I understand that doesn't apply to all scenarios but to this one it does.
Ok i dot know why but i love the stack concept. But explain to me the rules. I thought it was like i play you activate a ability it goes on top i do something it goes on top of that and it resolves top to bottom.
That's it bad luck irish
Ah ok. FILO kindof confused me
Sorry, First in Last out is a term used in places like software. But it's just like it sounds. The first on the stack is the last to resolve.
Bonus comment: after each thing on the stack resolves each player gets priority before the next thing resolves. This means that you can let the top two things go off but respond to the third thing on the stack.
Related topic: if a oppenent activates a ability and i {Vapor Snag} it would it still resolve?
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on February 09, 2012, 10:01:10 PM
Related topic: if a oppenent activates a ability and i {Vapor Snag} it would it still resolve?
The ability will still resolve. Let's say I pay to tap {Gideon's Lawkeeper} and target your creature to tap it. You {vapor snap} my Lawkeeper. I return the Lawkeeper but his ability will still resolve and tap your creature even though he is no longer on the BF.
Abilities are very hard to stop. Killing the thing that made the ability doesn't stop it from happening (usually).