My boyfriend got me into magic but dispite my efforts I still can't beat him! He's a serious "control freak" blue is his preferred color tho he can run most decks like a pro. :P it may be an impossible task but I need a type2 deck that can beat him!! Also I'm on a bit of a budget... Some of the best cards I have are G/B a playset of {Deathright shaman}, a playset of {slitherheads}, a playset of {corpsejack menace}, 2 {vraska the unseen} 3 {lotleth troll} and 2 {jarads orders} also 2 {rogues passage}
Think you can help? I'd love to see the look on his face if I finally grind him into dust!
Mono red aggro. A list was posted on the wizards daily site today that is good. This type of deck is your best bet on a budget cause it will likely go 50/50 against anydeck but super lifegain. Perfect against control players in this format.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 24, 2013, 01:36:56 AM
Mono red aggro. A list was posted on the wizards daily site today that is good. This type of deck is your best bet on a budget cause it will likely go 50/50 against anydeck but super lifegain. Perfect against control players in this format.
It's a good idea and I've thought about it, the thing is although fast and usually effective red decks take 0 skill to play. XD (in my opinion) I don't feel that would reach my main objective wich is to show up my intellectually arrogant bf lol! Thank you though. ^_^ i have quite a few good golgari cards... I was thinking about a way to optimize vraskas ultimate... (mostly because I was told it was useless but would like to prove otherwise)
Ah, one of those "blue" guys, is he? It can be difficult to deal with. What kind of control does he run? Each type has its own answers.
{Supreme Verdict} is best beaten by cards that do stuff when creatures leave the battlefield. The good news is you have cards in green and black, the best color for this. Check out effects like {Thragtusk} and {Blood Artist}.
{Unsummon} or "bounce" type control messes with your tempo - slowing you down while they get their aggression rolling. The best way to beat this is just to be more aggressive than your tempo-controller can handle. Low-costing aggressive attackers and removal spells (like {Ultimate Price}) to put a stop to his creatures.
And then there's counterspells. {Cancel}, {Disspipate}, {Syncopate} and the like. Some of these you can sneak by with cards that you can play from your graveyard, like creatures with scavenge, so even if your card gets countered, you still get some use out of it. Some counterspells like dissipate exile the card though, and that's really hard to deal with. Being aggressive is again helpful here, putting as much troublesome power on the board as you can before he even gets the mana to start casting counterspells. Remember - if he's using all his mana to counter you, he's not using it to stop your attackers that you played the first couple turns.
Yes, sometimes I swear he's Jace incarnate! Lol. He likes opponents that make him think and frowns upon red users. (tho maybe that's just because the super fast decks tend to beat him lol!) He does fall more into the counterspell type, so low drops... Especially ones that can become more powerful.. Dwayne I can splash blue and beat him at his own game. Mill his deck and use deathrite shaman to exile cards from it before he can use them. Also quick creatures that give me extra tempo maybe.. Like arbor elf? And I do have a playset of blood artists. Thanks. ^_^
Trying to show up an arrogant intellectual player simply by going against what they say will not likely work. There are two ways to be that type of player, one be faster like i suggested and not leave them the chance to do their thing, or two beat them at teir own game. If he's beating you with a blue mindset thats because what he is doing works and works well. If you really want to beat control of any kind regardless of which type it is (what gorzo said was very true, but...) DISCARD. Control is based on having answers, deny him that and then deathrite them away for good. Cards like {mind rot}, {ravenous rats}, {black cat}, {duress}, {appetite for brains} (if appropriate), and the reasons i didnt suggest this in the first place {rakdos's return} and {liliana of the veil}.
Rakdos's return seems amazing, I meant nothing against red. I've beat him with red before but he brushed it off because "red takes no skill to play." he's to arrogant to register that as a defeat. Lol ^_^ I loved vraska as soon as I pulled her so that's why I'm adamant to use her. Lol I guess I'm kinda arrogant that way too.
That statement is a good first step in the right direction for both of you to become better players. +1
Thanks. ^_^ pluses one on my first day. Woot!
Btw, I posted a prospective deck under standard. Trial and Error. I'd love to hear your thoughts before I put it to the test. ^_^