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Orzhov Midrange Need Help 75 cards, 15 sideboard 4 {Godless Shrine} 9 {Plains} 4 {Isolated Chapel} 7 {Swamp} 24 lands 3 {Angel of Serenity} 3 {Geralf's Messenger} 3 {Silverblade Paladin} 3 {Obzedat, Ghost Council} 3 {Crypt Ghast} 3 {Restoration Angel} 18 creatures 3 {Oblivion Ring} 3 {Liliana of the Veil} 4 {Exquisite Blood} 2 {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} 3 {Lingering Souls} 3 {Entreat the Angels} 18 other spells Sideboard 3 {Griselbrand} 3 {Unburial Rites} 3 {Terminus} 3 {Undying Evil} 3 {Cloudshift} 15 sideboard cards

I suggest taking each card and saying, "how often do I want to see this?" Some cards like {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Liliana of the Veil} (and sorin) are both put into the graveyard for having multiples. Cards like {Angel of Serenity} won't be useful until you have seven lands out, since you have no ramp. So seeing them early will just clog up your hand. Same principle for {Entreat the Angels}. Right now, everything in the deck is a 4-of. Try to cut it down a bit. This also makes room for other cards! :) But you should keep some 4-ofs, like {Lingering Souls}. Because souls is low cost, high value. A great 4-of card.

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 19, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
I suggest taking each card and saying, "how often do I want to see this?" Some cards like {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Liliana of the Veil} (and sorin) are both put into the graveyard for having multiples. Cards like {Angel of Serenity} won't be useful until you have seven lands out, since you have no ramp. So seeing them early will just clog up your hand. Same principle for {Entreat the Angels}. Right now, everything in the deck is a 4-of. Try to cut it down a bit. This also makes room for other cards! :) But you should keep some 4-ofs, like {Lingering Souls}. Because souls is low cost, high value. A great 4-of card.

That what I was think but I don't know what to put in for if I take out 2 angel of serenity or things like that
What would you suggest I put in

It  going to be edited when gatcrash is out

Geralfs messenger maybe?

Quote from: Andrew78384 on January 19, 2013, 04:42:36 PM
Geralfs messenger maybe?

Maybe but I don't got any right now

Quote from: Seth5000 on January 19, 2013, 04:44:26 PM

Quote from: Andrew78384 on January 19, 2013, 04:42:36 PM
Geralfs messenger maybe?

Maybe but I don't got any right now

Try and get some.. It would work really good with restoration angel when it's died already. It comes in fresh  an it can be a good blocker

The exalted angel is always good.

Quote from: Andrew78384 on January 19, 2013, 04:55:14 PM

Quote from: Seth5000 on January 19, 2013, 04:44:26 PM

Quote from: Andrew78384 on January 19, 2013, 04:42:36 PM
Geralfs messenger maybe?

Maybe but I don't got any right now

Try and get some.. It would work really good with restoration angel when it's died already. It comes in fresh  an it can be a good blocker

I'll see what I can do

Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 19, 2013, 05:25:31 PM
The exalted angel is always good.

{Sublime Archangel}

{Vampire nighthawk} always makes a good addition. Also {oblivion ring} for their bombs. {Crypt ghast} to get your fatties out earlier, and its perfect for {entreat the angels}.  And also maybe add some {knight of infamy}s and {knight of glory}s for some early damage.

Also, personally I'd drop the guildgates and up the swamp and plains by two each.

What you think now better?

Now I got a sideboard but it needs to be fixed what should I put in I know what I'll take out already

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 19, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
{Vampire nighthawk} always makes a good addition. Also {oblivion ring} for their bombs. {Crypt ghast} to get your fatties out earlier, and its perfect for {entreat the angels}.  And also maybe add some {knight of infamy}s and {knight of glory}s for some early damage.

Also, personally I'd drop the guildgates and up the swamp and plains by two each.

I agree with literally all of these additions

I just did join cockatrice and tested this deck without the gatecrash cards and beat coffee vampire wasn't expecting that and made another person that was wining ragequit when I played angel of serenity and the turn before entreat the angels for 2 and the last game I played before it crashed I beat I so brutally

Add 1 more lingering souls.. It's always good to run 4 for chimp blockers:) this deck looks very promising.. That new card seems good too.. Where you pay 3 black/white and x and you can bring back creatures with converted mana cost of x.. Just in case rey wipe your board ou can bring back your paladins for 6 or anything for that cost