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Title: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Wally on January 15, 2013, 03:18:52 AM
From a small amount of calculations (and if wizards are keeping things balanced) I highly doubt there will be another black plainswalker printed in the next set.

Out of the 15 (that i can currently count) in standard at the moment, here are my findings.

5 currently have {B}
4 have {U},{R}&{G} each
And only 3 have {W}

This leaves me to determine that they will try and balance with the rest.
I suspect there may be a return of {Ajani Vengeant} or another boros colored walker. (being the dual deck counter to nicol b)
Leaving a {U}{G} highly possible (as was discussed in the Gideon thread). Leaving {W} still one behind or the possibity of a third mono {W}.
Also it could mean that there is a second tri colored one bringing some balance in a different sort of fashion.

Of course I have no knowledge of any of this and it's all just speculation, also I'm not really sure if they have a 'two plainswalker per set' kind of rule or not..

Anyways feel free to share your theories or correct my information :)
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2013, 04:40:46 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on January 15, 2013, 04:35:22 AM
They'd certainly do take things like this into consideration, although I have to think there are so many more factors to consider rather than raw colour symbols.... For example I think there is a lot of powerful blue planeswalkers right now..... So I doubt we'd see another one right soon, except isn't there suppose to be a new planeswalker coming in dragons maze that is blue-red cause it was spoiler in plainswalkers 2013.
His name is Ral Zarek, the only modern (not a format ref.) Planeswalker besides Kiora Atua that has yet to recieve an actual printing.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2013, 04:45:13 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on January 15, 2013, 04:43:25 AM
What makes them a modern referenced planeswalker? Do you mean in the literature?
There have been many Planeswalkers in Magic Lore, but since the first printed Walkers, the modern ones, so to speak, the only referenced walkers yet to receive a card are those 2 previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Dudecore on January 15, 2013, 07:52:29 AM
One of the next planeswalkers in "Dragon's Maze" is Ral'Zarek. He is {R}{U}.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Wally on January 15, 2013, 08:43:08 AM
Ok so of we are expecting to see the {R}{U} plainswalker in the next set, going by my probably misguided logic should we expect to see a {W}{G} plainswalker?
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Harmon1c on January 15, 2013, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: Wally on January 15, 2013, 08:43:08 AM
Ok so of we are expecting to see the {R}{U} plainswalker in the next set, going by my probably misguided logic should we expect to see a {W}{G} plainswalker?

I hope so! {G}{W} is my favorite color combo, and a plainswalker in that flavor would be incredible.

I'd like to see a marriage of lifegain and beat down in a PW, even if only for the coolness factor.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: MTG Rebel on January 15, 2013, 10:03:15 AM
I want a 5 color planeswalker!!
With access to all the shock lands makes it possible to cast.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on January 15, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
{chromatic lantern} would probably help too
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: prayos on January 15, 2013, 11:12:41 AM
I can't remember where, but I think I read that DGM will have only one PW, and the going theory is that it'll be Ral, due to the artwork.  If I can find a link, I'll post it.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: MarduArrow on January 15, 2013, 11:40:20 AM
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 15, 2013, 10:03:15 AM
I want a 5 color planeswalker!!
With access to all the shock lands makes it possible to cast.

Yes!
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: MarduArrow on January 15, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
As much as I like jace, they need to stop making new ones, the past two sets alone had a new jace in each of them

Edit: which makes Wally's numbers for blue wrong, jace by himself puts blue at 4
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Juggernaut9060 on January 15, 2013, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: S717 on January 15, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
As much as I like jace, they need to stop making new ones, the past two sets alone had a new jace in each of them

Edit: which makes Wally's numbers for blue wrong, jace by himself puts blue at 4
I agree. Jace has been overused.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 02:06:55 PM
Jace 4x
Chandra 3x
Ajani mono 2x
Ajani vengeant 1x
Venser 1x
Elspeth 2x
Nicol bolas 1x
Sarkhan rg 1x
Sarkhan rb 1x
Tezz mono 1x
Tezz ub 1x
Gideon 2x
Domri rade 1x
Vraska 1x
Sorin mono 1x
Sorin wb 1x
Tibalt 1x
Tamiyo 1x
Lilliana 3x
Garruk mono 2x
Garruk gb 1x
Karn 1x

Can somebody count them colors?
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Juggernaut9060 on January 15, 2013, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 02:06:55 PM
Jace 4x
Chandra 3x
Ajani mono 2x
Ajani vengeant 1x
Venser 1x
Elspeth 2x
Nicol bolas 1x
Sarkhan rg 1x
Sarkhan rb 1x
Tezz mono 1x
Tezz ub 1x
Gideon 2x
Domri rade 1x
Vraska 1x
Sorin mono 1x
Sorin wb 1x
Tibalt 1x
Tamiyo 1x
Lilliana 3x
Garruk mono 2x
Garruk gb 1x
Karn 1x

Can somebody count them colors?
Total blue = 9
Total red = 9
Total white = 9
Total green = 7
Total black = 9
Total colorless = 1

You forgot  {Nissa Revane}.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Bozo_Law on January 15, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: Juggernuat9060 on January 15, 2013, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 02:06:55 PM
Jace 4x
Chandra 3x
Ajani mono 2x
Ajani vengeant 1x
Venser 1x
Elspeth 2x
Nicol bolas 1x
Sarkhan rg 1x
Sarkhan rb 1x
Tezz mono 1x
Tezz ub 1x
Gideon 2x
Domri rade 1x
Vraska 1x
Sorin mono 1x
Sorin wb 1x
Tibalt 1x
Tamiyo 1x
Lilliana 3x
Garruk mono 2x
Garruk gb 1x
Karn 1x

Can somebody count them colors?
Total blue = 9
Total red = 9
Total white = 9
Total green = 7
Total black = 9
Total colorless = 1

You forgot  {Nissa Revane}.

I don't think he counted her because she isbnot a real planeswalker that exists.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on January 15, 2013, 03:31:45 PM
Yes she is! {nissa revane}
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2013, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 15, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: Juggernuat9060 on January 15, 2013, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 02:06:55 PM
Jace 4x
Chandra 3x
Ajani mono 2x
Ajani vengeant 1x
Venser 1x
Elspeth 2x
Nicol bolas 1x
Sarkhan rg 1x
Sarkhan rb 1x
Tezz mono 1x
Tezz ub 1x
Gideon 2x
Domri rade 1x
Vraska 1x
Sorin mono 1x
Sorin wb 1x
Tibalt 1x
Tamiyo 1x
Lilliana 3x
Garruk mono 2x
Garruk gb 1x
Karn 1x

Can somebody count them colors?
Total blue = 9
Total red = 9
Total white = 9
Total green = 7
Total black = 9
Total colorless = 1

You forgot  {Nissa Revane}.

I don't think he counted her because she isbnot a real planeswalker that exists.
Damn, I'm playing a fake card in my Elf EDH
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on January 15, 2013, 04:32:51 PM
It's not that it's fake. It just simply doesn't exist...
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
Nissa released the eldrazi. In my book she didn't deserve printing.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Wally on January 15, 2013, 05:17:47 PM
Sorry I was only counting standard.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Dudecore on January 15, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
I think, and based upon nothing but cryptic messages on Mark Rosewater's blog, we may see Kiora Atua ({G}{U}) Merfolk Planeswalker.
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2013, 09:22:50 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on January 15, 2013, 04:32:51 PM
It's not that it's fake. It just simply doesn't exist...
Lol I know, I was being sarcastic
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Wally on January 16, 2013, 01:19:02 AM
Yeah, I was only counting standard as the next set will be the end of the block and should round out most of the figures I imagine. (Also thinking that block & standard are really what drive set and card creation. Well, more so than other formats)
Title: Re: Plainswalkers and balance of colours.
Post by: Langku on January 17, 2013, 02:52:19 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 15, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
I think, and based upon nothing but cryptic messages on Mark Rosewater's blog, we may see Kiora Atua ({G}{U}) Merfolk Planeswalker.
Friggin' rad! My favorite colors and my favorite creatures. Dudecore, I hope you're right.