I'v decided to get all you people to build a deck first step pick a type and colors... Each person put in one suggestion... After we pick type and colors we shall choose cards each person will name 1-5 suggestions......the decision will be made by what is suggested the most
My colors and type I choose are RBG Midrange board control
Five color frites.
In 2 or 3 days depending on how many deck suggestions we have the decision on deck type will be made Posibly 1 day we will see
Umm is this post gatecrash or not?
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 13, 2013, 07:37:02 PM
Umm is this post gatecrash or not?
Gatecrash cards that are in imtg are ok and if we are still making the deck when it comes out then yes
5 color frites...it will be fun to see which fatties make the cut.
5 colour {Battle of Wits}. :)
We need more deck type suggestions. Like I'm not kidding I want this to be a big group effort to make an insainly good deck... Let's see what we can come up with.
I've always wanted a Mill deck that works competitively. Maybe something that involves infinite mana combo with {increasing confusion} and the option to mill yourself to take advantage of cards that have flashback . It would have great synergy I think.
Haterator deck:)
We need at least 2 more deck type suggestions then we will move on to making it
B/g zombies
Tribal aggro
Ok we got a good amount of deck suggestion I'll give it four more hours unless someone think I should wait longer
So far the deck will be a 5 color frites but it could change
No one has said junk yet, so I nominate that. Not {G}{W}{B} but the raw power meaning.
Quote from: CbStrad on January 15, 2013, 01:24:36 PM
Esper control
I second this.
Mill or Souls version. Both I have had a ton of fun playing except against BR Zombie.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 15, 2013, 02:43:25 PM
No one has said junk yet, so I nominate that. Not {G}{W}{B} but the raw power meaning.
So you want junk not 5 color frites?
Well someone else has voted for frites, so you could leave it. I was just offering up another option for people to vote on, not discounting my first suggestion.
I'm actually going with a 5 color frites rather than origional choice.
Ill give it another 3 hours cuz I can't wait anymore i'm very impationt lol
Frites is an excellent choice.
Ok I just got back from snowboarding and it looks like 5 color frites is the deck we are making.
Ok here's how this will work every day (since we're in different time zones every 24 hours) each person can submit 1-5 card suggestions and the cards that are suggested the most will go into the deck... To make this easier we will have a type of card for the suggestions (like creatures one day then sorcerys another and do on) for today and tomarrow the type will be creatures
Now starts the picking
I'll say {gisela, blade of goldnight} {Avacyn, angel of hope} and {angel of serenity}
Can I get some karma for this great idea lol
Just a thought and would be nice
Plz lol
{griselbrand}, {sphinx of uthuun}, {angel of serenity}, {thragtusk}, and {drogskol reaver}
RUG Undying/ +1/+1 Counter stuff
Looks like someone was tardy for the party 😀
I second {griselbrand} and {sphinx of uthuun}. Also {armada wurm} and {thundermaw hellkite}, or {utvara hellkite} instead if you're going budget.
{Lotleth Troll} to help toss the big fattys in the geaveyard
{Griselbrand} {Stormtide Leviathan} {Angel of Serenity} {Avacyn, Angel of Hope} {Splinterfright} I'm excited for this
{Necropolois Reagent}, {Geist Of Seint Traft}, {Mikeasues The Unhallowed} and that's all I have for now
Honestly aside from {Sphinx of Uthuun}, and maybe sphinx's rev...I don't see a reason to run blue. I think it would just hold the deck back. But anyways...my creature suggestions:
{Deathrite Shaman} - utility + damage + ramp
{Flayer of the Hatebound} - when you reanimate him, he deals damage right away to anything you want. And the creature itself deals damage, so if you reanimate grisel, that's a 14 life swing. This, like {Sheoldred, Whispering One}, would be an ideal first reanimate target, to boost the next ones.
{Borborygmos Enraged} - This one is a powerhouse. Remember all those lands you get from {Mulch}, {Grisely Salvage}, and maybe {Borderland Ranger}? Well they are now instant speed uncounterable {Lightning Bolt}s to the face for no mana cost.
{Disciple of Griselbrand} - {Thragtusk} is a great target for this card, but any 3 or greater power will do. Gains the life, draws the cards. What is not to love? Edit: {disciple or bolas}?
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice} - Perhaps the only guild leader that fits in a reanimator deck. Here's to populating {Thragtusk} tokens with {Séance}! See this card as the mirror image of {Flayer of the Hatebound}; it makes future reanimating better.
Oh boy, fatty time.
{Craterhoof Behemoth} - big nasty and makes everyone else bigger and nastier (possibly best finisher)
{Tyrant of Discord} - a serious greifer especially if they are massing tokens to block with.
{Moldgraf Monstrosity} - got fattys in the graveyard ready? Sure, bring on your removal :)
{Ghoultree} you can probably hard cast this guy mid game. 10/10 is nothing to scoff at.
{Worldspine Wurm} - you thought 10/10 was good! :D
{Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} got extra mana left over? Make it cards in hand :)
{Skaab Goliath} - utilize some of those creatures you probably don't need anymore, and pretty easy to cast with only 1 {U} mana
{Deadeye Navigator} for repeatable etb
{Geralf's Mindcrusher} self mill? (Also plays well with {Flayer of the Hatebound} <- top suggestion btw
{Mirror-Mad Phantasm} someone said self mill? Play as a 1 or 2 of :)
I second deadeye nav, craterhoof, tyrant, and monstrosity...nice choices!
By the way worldspine shuffles ;)
edit: oh and mikey they unhallowed is awesome.
I second {Flayer of the Hatebound}
{Lotleth Troll}
{Moldgraf Monstrosity}
{Borborygmos Enraged}
{Flayer of the Hatebound}
Hey can we try to limit it to 5 suggestions makes it easier to find what goes in and then making the deck will take longer and we will edit it when gatecrash comes out
{Flayer of the Hatebound}...
{Deathrite Shaman}
{Borborygmos Enraged}
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 16, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
{Borborygmos Enraged} - This one is a powerhouse. Remember all those lands you get from {Mulch}, {Grisely Salvage}, and maybe {Borderland Ranger}? Well they are now instant speed uncounterable {Lightning Bolt}s to the face for no mana cost.
{Disciple of Griselbrand} - {Thragtusk} is a great target for this card, but any 3 or greater power will do. Gains the life, draws the cards. What is not to love? Edit: {disciple or bolas}?
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice} - Perhaps the only guild leader that fits in a reanimator deck. Here's to populating {Thragtusk} tokens with {Séance}! See this card as the mirror image of {Flayer of the Hatebound}; it makes future reanimating better.
Wow, this gave me a lot to think about in my own frites deck. I use {tree of redemption} as a last ditch effort to stay alive. {Disciple of griselbrand} would be perfect with it for life gain instead of life swap. {Borborygmos enraged} is perfect because with frites being a straight forward deck, you really only need six lands at the most (in my opinion,) so dumping extra land into it is a good move. And mine uses a few token generators ({thragtusk}, {utvara hellkite}, {armada wurm}, and {lingering souls}) so {trostani, selesnya's voice} is another perfect choice.
Ok {sphinx of uthuun} is going in and {angel of serenity} if it gets one more vote
I vote {Angel of Serenity}
{Griselbrand}
Ok we got {sphinx of uthuun} {angel of serenity} and {Geislbrand}
Quote from: Seth5000 on January 16, 2013, 01:34:30 PM
Ok we got {sphinx of uthuun} {angel of serenity} and {Geislbrand}
Also {flayer the hatehound}
I vote for {deathrite shaman}.
I'll second {thundermaw hellkite}
What are we to suggest now??
Not enough creatures a creature needs 4 suggestions at least to get into so creatures
{Thundermaw hellkite}
Could go human reanimator {angel of glory's rise} then through in some {huntmaster of the fells} and other bad ass humans
But if you are sticking with 5 color big beats i would say {lingering souls}...?? It's sorta a creature and then that rw angle from avacyn restored. Cant remember her name :/
If you count the nomination as a vote, {deathrite shaman} has four votes.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 08:26:52 AM
If you count the nomination as a vote, {deathrite shaman} has four votes.
Ok I'll add that then :)
How many creatures are you going to add before we move onto other spells?
I think we should add all creatures that got at least 2 votes and then move to spells. We can cut it down to 36 cards by voting what to cut when we have everything. Does this sound good?
Also if Thragtusk isn't in yet I vote for it. It is an obvious choice!
I second {thragtusk}! It's the same CMC as {unburial rites}, so you could easily hard cast it turn five if you don't have access to rites yet.
I suggest {Jarad's Orders} let's you set up with a thragtusk or w/e else you see fit In hand and throws a fatty into the g/y real quick to reanimate Next turn if need.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 17, 2013, 11:18:46 AM
I think we should add all creatures that got at least 2 votes and then move to spells. We can cut it down to 36 cards by voting what to cut when we have everything. Does this sound good?
Also if Thragtusk isn't in yet I vote for it. It is an obvious choice!
I agree we will now move on to instents and sorcerys
I've already add {unburial rites}
I'll choose {faithless looting} that's all I can think of at the moment I'll post the rest in a bit
Second on {faithless looking}. Also {mulch} and {grisly salvage}.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 11:56:47 AM
Second on {faithless looking}. Also {mulch} and {grisly salvage}.
I second mulch and salvage
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 11:55:06 AM
I suggest {Jarad's Orders} let's you set up with a thragtusk or w/e else you see fit In hand and throws a fatty into the g/y real quick to reanimate Next turn if need.
Also second jarads orders
Quote from: Seth5000 on January 17, 2013, 12:00:51 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 11:55:06 AM
I suggest {Jarad's Orders} let's you set up with a thragtusk or w/e else you see fit In hand and throws a fatty into the g/y real quick to reanimate Next turn if need.
Also second jarads orders
Yay I win!! Lol J/p I think I'm gonna build this deck once its done depending on what ends up in it
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
Quote from: Seth5000 on January 17, 2013, 12:00:51 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 11:55:06 AM
I suggest {Jarad's Orders} let's you set up with a thragtusk or w/e else you see fit In hand and throws a fatty into the g/y real quick to reanimate Next turn if need.
Also second jarads orders
Yay I win!! Lol J/p I think I'm gonna build this deck once its done depending on what ends up in it
One reason I wanted to do this was to see what we can come up with and make it if it's good enough also because I thought this would get me some karma
I nominate lingering souls again ;p
Well so far I like it didn't suggest on a creature simply cause I suck with creature selection most of the time lol
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:07:07 PM
Well so far I like it didn't suggest on a creature simply cause I suck with creature selection most of the time lol
Well the card you suggested I would have never thought of and was perfect
Well thank you kind sir lol
Also people check the let's build deck and see if I got all the creatures that had 2 votes
If I missed one tell me
I vote for {Treasured Find}
I second {Treasured Find}
And {Grisly Salvage}
What about {Liliana of the Veil} as a discard outlet?
Quote from: GeauxJuice on January 17, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
What about {Liliana of the Veil} as a discard outlet?
I like this. Helps put things in the graveyard and helps creature removal.
And it being a 3 CMC is pretty decen as well.
I've updated the deck take a look and see if we need any other spells
I give it till the end of today for me and then we will move onto lands
Also if you people have enchantments we are adding thoughts now
How about {mind riot}
Quote from: Seth5000 on January 17, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
I've updated the deck take a look and see if we need any other spells
I give it till the end of today for me and then we will move onto lands
Also if you people have enchantments we are adding thoughts now
How about {mind riot}
Ideally by T3, you'll have {faithless looting} in the GY and can flash that back instead of casting {mind rot}. The looting cycles through your deck AND gives you discard.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: Seth5000 on January 17, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
I've updated the deck take a look and see if we need any other spells
I give it till the end of today for me and then we will move onto lands
Also if you people have enchantments we are adding thoughts now
How about {mind riot}
Ideally by T3, you'll have {faithless looting} in the GY and can flash that back instead of casting {mind rot}. The looting cycles through your deck AND gives you discard.
That's true I completely forgot that faithless looting had flashback
I agree avout faithless
{Séance} is an awesome card. Make a thrag token, then sac it to {Disciple of Bolas}! Gain 10 life, draw 5 cards, get a beast token! Yay
Hey people got any last minute sugestions ill give it till 10 my time then we move to lands
It's 7:30 right now
Now to the lands
So get postin
{Slayer's Stronghold}. Give dat {Griselbrand} some haste baby!
All shocklands, also {Dragonskull Summit} {Glacial fortress} etc, {Gavony township}. i was late for the rest, may i possibly give {jarads orders} another vote?
I think a little basic lands would be good
{Overgrown tomb}, {blood crypt}, {temple garden}, {godless shrine}, and {stomping grounds}.
All shocks should have black, red, or green as one of the colors, since those are the main engine colors. Next is white and last is blue.
In my opinion, blue can be completely left out and more white can take its place for flashing back {unburial rites}. {Sphinx of uthuun} and {deadeye navigator} are the only blue spells in the deck and they're too mana specific for a five color deck. Just my opinion.
People check the deck and see what lands need added or taken out I added in some that got no votes yet for blue mana source
I suggest some of the buddy lands too. Having nothing but shocklands can cause major damage. Which is risky since you're liable to be taking damage in the first four or five turns while you're setting up your reanimator targets. Things like {dragonskull summit}, {drowned catacombs}, {Rootbound crag}, etc.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 18, 2013, 11:52:21 AM
I suggest some of the buddy lands too. Having nothing but shocklands can cause major damage. Which is risky since you're liable to be taking damage in the first four or five turns while you're setting up your reanimator targets. Things like {dragonskull summit}, {drowned catacombs}, {Rootbound crag}, etc.
You got it I post the edit in a bit and then see what u think
It's up also what lands come out if I got to many
This is a group effort and I need to know if lands look good
Once lands are done we move on to the amount of each card starting with creatures, then instents and sorcerys, and finally lands
I think the lands look ok
Quote from: Seth5000 on January 18, 2013, 12:09:00 PM
This is a group effort and I need to know if lands look good
Once lands are done we move on to the amount of each card starting with creatures, then instents and sorcerys, and finally lands
I take that back next we need to lower the amount of cards eliminate the extra creatures so only the best are left
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 18, 2013, 12:13:11 PM
I think the lands look ok
Anyone else second the lands looking good?
I'll bb to check the post in a bit I'm going back out to snowboarding
Land looks good
Moving on then we need to eliminate the extras aka the ones that aren't good enough because we got to many creatures
Something is eliminated if 3 people say its not good enough
I say {deathrite shaman} and {caterhoof belmoth}
I have to disagree with {deathrite shaman}. It can be very effective in this type of deck. Can be used for life gain/loss T2-T4, getting rid of their graveyard threats, and getting that last bit of damage in late game.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 18, 2013, 03:53:29 PM
I have to disagree with {deathrite shaman}. It can be very effective in this type of deck. Can be used for life gain/loss T2-T4, getting rid of their graveyard threats, and getting that last bit of damage in late game.
You know what now that I think about it your right
Got anything you would take out
{Worldspine wurm}. Unless you can flash {unburial rites}, its useless here since it goes straight from the graveyard back into your deck. Without ramp, there's no way to cast it before T12. Even if you had {alchemist's refuge} and flashed {unburial rites} as soon as the wurm is discarded, you still can't do it until T6 at the earliest. Other than that, what else to cut is a hard decision.
Edit: T11 rather. Thought it was a 12 CMC. Still too slow.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 18, 2013, 04:02:36 PM
{Worldspine wurm}. Unless you can flash {unburial rites}, its useless here since it goes straight from the graveyard back into your deck. Without ramp, there's no way to cast it before T12. Even if you had {alchemist's refuge} and flashed {unburial rites} as soon as the wurm is discarded, you still can't do it until T6 at the earliest. Other than that, what else to cut is a hard decision.
Didn't think about that I'll second him coming out and I think I'll just take him out because of that no need for third vote on him
Any reason we don't also run {Rise from the Grave} or {Defy Death}?
Quote from: Wally on January 18, 2013, 04:55:31 PM
Any reason we don't also run {Rise from the Grave} or {Defy Death}?
No one said anything about them
Ok, well consider me floating the idea. (Ready to be shot down, haha)
{Rise from the grave} isn't a bad idea. {Defy death} is too mana specific in my opinion.
Looked at the deck list, and I'm asking do we need to but blue in there? It's only for deadeye and the sphinx by the looks of it.
I also vote we cut blue
I think blue is good.
...
I also vote for cutting blue. {Sphinx of uthuun} and {deadeye navigator} are both too mana specific (costing {U}{U}) and should be treated as {unburial rites} targets.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 19, 2013, 02:40:13 PM
I also vote for cutting blue. {Sphinx of uthuun} and {deadeye navigator} are both too mana specific (costing {U}{U}) and should be treated as {unburial rites} targets.
Ok I'll edit lands a bit and then see what you think
I cut deadeye navigator but kept sphinx
Anything else we should cut
Ok I gave it enough time now we start on how many copy's of each card
Rites, looting, salvage, and mulch all should be maxed out at least.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 20, 2013, 09:29:20 AM
Rites, looting, salvage, and mulch all should be maxed out at least.
Agreed
What else we need 4 of for lands name spicificaly which ones
Basic lands.
So you don't have to always pay life to have a untapped turn 1 land
We would need more people to vote for that
Ok :(
Ummm hey people's lets get this deck finished we need amount of each card still
Get lands up to 24
Creatures leave most of as 1of's
Up {Deathrite Shaman} to 4
Up {Thragtusk} to 4
Up {Flayer of the Hatebound} to 2
Making our total creatures 18
Spells is already 18
Tweak as necessary.