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Title: How to beat life gain
Post by: Muztang on January 09, 2013, 09:12:23 PM
Hi my girlfriend has this really annoying angel life gain deck that's green white, and I can't beat it. I'm looking for some ways to try to beat it something that I am thinking of is destroying her lands. I already know my selenaya Agro doesn't work please reply
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Malachiracer on January 09, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
maybe beat fire with fire
maybe im wrong though
try red and white burn and life gain
add angles for defense and get a few  {Chalice of Life} {Chalice of Death}
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: swallowtail on January 09, 2013, 09:33:17 PM
 {Havoc Festival} plus some quick aggro... :)
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Keyeto on January 09, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
I built a {B}{R} wither deck with {Stigma Lasher} in it, it tore life gain decks apart. Another option is to burn them fast enough before their life gain can really do much.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 09, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
{Evelasting Torment}
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Keyeto on January 09, 2013, 09:36:54 PM
{False Cure} can be pretty wicked too.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Malachiracer on January 09, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on January 09, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
I built a {B}{R} wither deck with {Stigma Lasher} in it, it tore life gain decks apart. Another option is to burn them fast enough before their life gain can really do much.
maybe add chalice of life \ death with this?
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Keyeto on January 09, 2013, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: Malachiracer on January 09, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on January 09, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
I built a {B}{R} wither deck with {Stigma Lasher} in it, it tore life gain decks apart. Another option is to burn them fast enough before their life gain can really do much.
maybe add chalice of life \ death with this?
Not a bad idea, but beware of relying on artifacts when facing green. My wither deck didn't run any, and Stigma Lasher combined with the speed of the deck quickly became too much for life gain to handle. The chalice could work out though, I've just never tried it. It also didn't exist when I made the deck lol.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Rass on January 09, 2013, 10:17:59 PM
Poison?
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Wally on January 10, 2013, 12:08:21 AM
Infect or mill decks are the most effective against life gain, coz they really don't care :D
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Rass on January 10, 2013, 08:10:32 AM
I couldn't remember infect.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Birdbrain on January 10, 2013, 09:25:39 AM
They should make a card were if target opponent has more than N life, they lose. Maybe it could do that by taking there life force and using it to bear down on the body untill it can't take the pressure anymore and breaks. That could be the top down concept anyway...what color would that be in?
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Birdbrain on January 10, 2013, 09:36:49 AM
Actually. Since life gain is primarily in white and green. It would probably be in black. The logic behind it...black is selfish and manipulative. And it seems like a dirty trick as well. Plus black is about instant death

Edit: a card like this would make alms beast insane. And turn it into a win condition
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on January 10, 2013, 10:00:51 AM
{havoc festival} {flames of the blood hand}
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Ace on January 10, 2013, 11:01:17 AM
I think your best bet is to make a infect deck. Assuming that her deck doesn't really get alot of blockers until turn 3 or 4 u could have her dead by then. The best part is to make a good aggro infect deck is really inexpencive. I think I built mine for a total of about 10 bucks.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Birdbrain on January 10, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
Quote from: Rtace88 on January 10, 2013, 11:01:17 AM
I think your best bet is to make a infect deck. Assuming that her deck doesn't really get alot of blockers until turn 3 or 4 u could have her dead by then. The best part is to make a good aggro infect deck is really inexpencive. I think I built mine for a total of about 10 bucks.
Infect would be insane in simic. Moving +1/+1 counters onto your infect cards...are there cards that give infect to a creature? Give it to an evolving creature
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: MisterJH on January 10, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Ya infect is definitely the way to go. If she has a lot of blocker go with either
A) {artful dodge} as a staple
B) {blighted agent} as a staple
Ooor
C) {livewire lash}-based infect

Good cards for all 3 options are {apostle's blessing} {mutagenic growth} {groundswell} and {might of old krosa}
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Silent1236 on January 10, 2013, 12:26:46 PM
Just go life gain yourself and throw a {Felidar Sovereign} in!
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Mikefrompluto on January 10, 2013, 01:08:21 PM
Infect plus proliferate to speed it up.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Mikefrompluto on January 10, 2013, 01:10:17 PM
Ooh, now I want to build an infect deck. I was tardy for the party when infect was in standard, so I didn't bother toying with it. Now I want to try it out.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: MisterJH on January 10, 2013, 01:43:23 PM
Proliferate is awful in infect.. Way too slow, but ya try it out im sittin on turn 3-4 wins literally every game
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Gorzo on January 10, 2013, 02:06:02 PM
As a {Johnny, Combo Player}, I have to recommend infinite combos to beat life gain decks.

Doesn't matter if they have 600 life if you have {Kiki Jiki, Mirror Breaker} and any of {Restoration Angel}, {Deciever Exarch}, {Pestermite}, {Zealous Conscripts}, {Village Bell-Ringer}, etc...

Or just throw down {Exquisite Blood} + {Sanguine Bond}.  Or any of the other wonderful combos out there.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Ghetto Pass on January 10, 2013, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 09, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
{Evelasting Torment}

This.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 10, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
{Leyline of Punishment}, {Skullcrack}
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Wally on January 13, 2013, 08:27:38 PM
I still say mill them. I can't remember the last lifegain deck that played  {Laboratory Maniac} :/
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: smokin terry on January 14, 2013, 03:08:56 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on January 13, 2013, 06:46:40 AM
{Rain of Gore}
Wow that is mean.
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Jdogtoocool on January 15, 2013, 06:21:27 PM
I believe the most effective is {leyline of punishment}, yeah you go ahead and turn 1. {cathedral sanctifier} for 0 life gain :)
Title: Re: How to beat life gain
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 16, 2013, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 10, 2013, 02:06:02 PM
As a {Johnny, Combo Player}, I have to recommend infinite combos to beat life gain decks.

Doesn't matter if they have 600 life if you have {Kiki Jiki, Mirror Breaker} and any of {Restoration Angel}, {Deciever Exarch}, {Pestermite}, {Zealous Conscripts}, {Village Bell-Ringer}, etc...

Or just throw down {Exquisite Blood} + {Sanguine Bond}.  Or any of the other wonderful combos out there.

The combo with  {Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker} kills be every time in modern, grr 

I would go for {Exquisite Blood} + {Sanguine Bond}.  Or bloodcrank combo  {Bloodchief Ascension}+ {mindcrank}