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Title: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Kingkrank on February 03, 2012, 08:43:28 PM

Sorin Vamps

60 cards, 0 sideboard


2 {Plains}
9 {Mountain}
2 {Clifftop Retreat}
8 {Swamp}
2 {Dragonskull Summit}

23 lands


4 {Stromkirk Noble}
4 {Bloodcrazed Neonate}
4 {Stromkirk Captain}
2 {Falkenrath Aristocrat}
3 {Rakish Heir}
2 {Markov Blademaster}
2 {Bloodline Keeper}
2 {Olivia Voldaren}

23 creatures


2 {Assault Strobe}
2 {Gut Shot}
2 {Curse of Stalked Prey}
2 {Failthless Looting}
2 {Volt Charge}
2 {Desperate Ravings}
2 {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}

14 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Kingkrank on February 03, 2012, 08:44:48 PM
Open to all opinions and suggestions
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
Well for one, your running 2 Sorin's, so you definitely need more white mana, and you need more duals for the rest of the cards. I'd say:

-1 {Plains}
-2 {Mountain}
-3 {Swamp}

+2 {Clifftop Retreat} (the fact that it produces red makes it an all-star)
+4 {Blackcleave Cliffs}

The Clifftop us going to come in untapped almost every time, and the Blackcleave is just super nice for hitting either Red or Black, you could even say 2 Blackcleaves and 2 more {Dragonskull Summit}s if your worried about the Blackcleaves coming in tapped. I'd personally do 4/4, ({Blackcleave Cliffs}/{{Dragonskull Summit}) but that's just me.

As for the {Bloodcrazed Neonate}, after personally playtesting that card quite a lot, I'd say that {Child of Night} is way better. It can block, it does not have to swing in every turn, and it has life gain. It doesn't get counters when it hits, I know, but that's a small price to pay in order to actually have time to think about what you're going to do, instead of having no say in whether you swing in with it or not. I could give a couple more tips, but then I'd just be trying to turn this deck into my R/B/W Vamps, and it's a completely different deck.
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Spikepit on February 04, 2012, 12:07:59 AM
{Unburial Rites}?
{Intangiable Viture}??

I personally wouldn't include {Desperate Ravings} (since youve already got one card grabber that makes you discard two), I'd maybe put a {Grim Affliction} in instead to help those vampires.

But if you like the amount of discard, why not a {Past in Flames}?
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Spikepit on February 04, 2012, 12:21:21 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
Well for one, your running 2 Sorin's, so you definitely need more white mana, and you need more duals for the rest of the cards. I'd say:

-1 {Plains}
-2 {Mountain}
-3 {Swamp}

+2 {Clifftop Retreat} (the fact that it produces red makes it an all-star)
+4 {Blackcleave Cliffs}
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Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 04, 2012, 01:13:15 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on February 04, 2012, 12:07:59 AM
I'd maybe put a {Grim Affliction} in instead to help those vampires.
Or 2 more {Volt Charge}s!! I think burn would work a little better for this deck.
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Spikepit on February 04, 2012, 01:31:50 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 04, 2012, 01:13:15 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on February 04, 2012, 12:07:59 AM
I'd maybe put a {Grim Affliction} in instead to help those vampires.
Or 2 more {Volt Charge}s!! I think burn would work a little better for this deck.
Yeah for sure, either is equally efficient in my books! ðŸ'
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Nypinto123 on February 04, 2012, 10:07:30 PM
Love this deck looks very similar to mine. Nice love Olivia
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Where is the white splash? Don't use the land unless you are gonna splash the color, otherwise you risk mana screw
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 05, 2012, 04:40:14 AM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Where is the white splash? Don't use the land unless you are gonna splash the color, otherwise you risk mana screw
{Vault of the Archangel} perhaps?
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Where is the white splash? Don't use the land unless you are gonna splash the color, otherwise you risk mana screw
Isn't {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} being splashed here?
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 05, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Where is the white splash? Don't use the land unless you are gonna splash the color, otherwise you risk mana screw
Isn't {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} being splashed here?
I think he may have meant besides that?? Idk, maybe he just didn't notice.
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
1. it isn't worth splashing or spring since you need a full splash, and half splash will create scenarios which you have sorin or anything else and can't play them. If there were many more double lands for white, it would be worth splashing for sorin
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
1. it isn't worth splashing or spring since you need a full splash, and half splash will create scenarios which you have sorin or anything else and can't play them. If there were many more double lands for white, it would be worth splashing for sorin
Whoa, whoa, whoa!  Full-splash, half-splash, spring?  ???  Wazzat?
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 04:30:03 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
1. it isn't worth splashing or spring since you need a full splash, and half splash will create scenarios which you have sorin or anything else and can't play them. If there were many more double lands for white, it would be worth splashing for sorin
Whoa, whoa, whoa!  Full-splash, half-splash, spring?  ???  Wazzat?
When you are splashing a color in a deck, you need every single double lands to make it work best. Simply playing a couple of copies of a land won't be enough at all to run a consistent draw much of the times. For this deck, this person needs to run all the clifftop retreats and isolated chapels, and that may still conflict.
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
I get the concept, but what is a spring of a color?
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
I get the concept, but what is a spring of a color?
I don't know. Spell check did bad things
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
I get the concept, but what is a spring of a color?
I don't know. Spell check did bad things
Lolz. Auto fill is the bane of my existence somedays.
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: Prophylaxis on February 05, 2012, 05:49:24 PM
I would replace the Neonates with {Stormblood Berserker}.

I'm currently playtesting this deck against my Eldritch Onslaught over at General Discussion. Will have results up tonight.
Title: Re: Sorin Vamps
Post by: cltrn81 on February 07, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
Quote from: Appleguru56 on February 05, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
I get the concept, but what is a spring of a color?
I don't know. Spell check did bad things

Darn auto cucumber