Just like the top thread this is a place to post bad trades and or utrusted traders. I'm hoping this will help stop card thieves. I have only had two bad trades so far; I will try to edit this list with the names people give me so that you don't have to search for a name
The two bad expiriences I've had are with
Xbellatrix- just kind of disappeared.
Kuberr- is a deadbeat and (insert profanity here)
Marshin. Lost my {Entomb}. And didn't get the {Ulamog, the Infinite Gure} that I've been trying to find for a couple years
Remasuri ger. Jacked my {Iona, Shield of Emeria} and didn't send GoJuDragon his cards in our triangle trade. And it cost me like 3-5 dollars to send it to Germany.
Klybern
Terror00456
Metalmadman
Jfrazz
zw913
{Killabud12} - (Lost a {Bonfire of the Damned} to him, when it was at $50)
{UNDIYINGburrit0} - (Never sent my {Gravecrawler}, small scale but still)
There should also be a good advice giver section, featuring me.. Hmmm
Kuberr is a deadbeat and a (insert profanity here).
^loserface?
Ok I keep hearing about him, but what did he do?
Quote from: Missingkirby34 on January 06, 2013, 11:08:37 PM
Ok I keep hearing about him, but what did he do?
Ripped off a good chunk of high value cards from different people, and was also douche.
I mean he was douche outside of ripping people off. Dude was such a troll.
Don't trust me.
Klybern
Also just to scare these untrustworthy people, some of us take these things more seriously than others and I should probably mention that plugging your mailing address into google maps shows people exactly where you live
Marshin. Lost my {Entomb}. And didn't get the {Ulamog, the Infinite Gure} that I've been trying to find for a couple years
Remasuri ger. Jacked my {Iona, Shield of Emeria} and didn't send GoJuDragon his cards in our triangle trade. And it cost me like 3-5 dollars to send it to Germany, as well.
Oh, and Ericclay's cards haven't shown up after a couple weeks, but he's PM'd me back about it and I've had a good trade with him before, so I'm not really worried there. Yet
Names added!
I really like the idea of a thread like this. It'll let newer people know who to kind of avoid for their trades. Good work, Missingkirby!
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 07, 2013, 12:48:52 AM
Marshin. Lost my {Entomb}. And didn't get the {Ulamog, the Infinite Gure} that I've been trying to find for a couple years
Remasuri ger. Jacked my {Iona, Shield of Emeria} and didn't send GoJuDragon his cards in our triangle trade. And it cost me like 3-5 dollars to send it to Germany, as well.
Oh, and Ericclay's cards haven't shown up after a couple weeks, but he's PM'd me back about it and I've had a good trade with him before, so I'm not really worried there. Yet
That remasuri dude is the reason I don't trade anymore online...he gave me all these excuses like "i moved" and "germany post system is messed up" ....z.z
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 07, 2013, 07:58:49 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 07, 2013, 12:48:52 AM
Marshin. Lost my {Entomb}. And didn't get the {Ulamog, the Infinite Gure} that I've been trying to find for a couple years
Remasuri ger. Jacked my {Iona, Shield of Emeria} and didn't send GoJuDragon his cards in our triangle trade. And it cost me like 3-5 dollars to send it to Germany, as well.
Oh, and Ericclay's cards haven't shown up after a couple weeks, but he's PM'd me back about it and I've had a good trade with him before, so I'm not really worried there. Yet
That remasuri dude is the reason I don't trade anymore online...he gave me all these excuses like "i moved" and "germany post system is messed up" ....z.z
I just try not to get discouraged from it. Without trading online, I would barely have any of the older cards I need. I got a huge chunk of my BW deck through it :P
Only been ripped off once, and it was by this guy: Teror00456
Can we get this thread Stickied under Trusted Traders?
Quote from: KangaRod on January 07, 2013, 07:46:56 AM
I thought kubrr showed up and concocted a story?
This is the first I'm hearing about this.. Can someone verify?
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 07, 2013, 07:58:49 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 07, 2013, 12:48:52 AM
Marshin. Lost my {Entomb}. And didn't get the {Ulamog, the Infinite Gure} that I've been trying to find for a couple years
Remasuri ger. Jacked my {Iona, Shield of Emeria} and didn't send GoJuDragon his cards in our triangle trade. And it cost me like 3-5 dollars to send it to Germany, as well.
Oh, and Ericclay's cards haven't shown up after a couple weeks, but he's PM'd me back about it and I've had a good trade with him before, so I'm not really worried there. Yet
That remasuri dude is the reason I don't trade anymore online...he gave me all these excuses like "i moved" and "germany post system is messed up" ....z.z
yeah same here
A few others are jfrazz, zw913, and I still haven't recieved from missingkirby and it's been well over two months since both our trades and I have yet to receive from either
I don't trade or send snail mail. But I do not understand why people do send mail with the insurance and signature verifying when it's money cards.
Quote from: Rass on January 07, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
I don't trade or send snail mail. But I do not understand why people do send mail with the insurance and signature verifying when it's money cards.
By the time you add all that it can cost $6-10 to send a card... It would have to be a pretty big trade to make up for that extra cost. Not to mention it doesn't fix the problem of someone receiving the card and just not sending their end, which is how a lot of the people tend to rip you off.
I resent them the 3rd time, the first time the shipping label fell off, the second I wrote the address wrong and because of the holidays it took forever for them to come back, I'm sorry, it will never happen again, and if you want your cards back I understand and mine should be there today or tomorrow. I know it sounds like excuses but the funeral threw me off
Quote from: Elitehalo360 on January 07, 2013, 01:35:42 PM
A few others are jfrazz, zw913, and I still haven't recieved from missingkirby and it's been well over two months since both our trades and I have yet to receive from either
To show my condolences I will add my name to this list and you let me know when you get the cards. Than I will remove my name
PM'd Piotr about stickying this thread.
I Pm'd him about stickying the thread
Oh, my friend lost a foil {Sphinx's Revelation} to..... Darkarts981 I believe. Let me make sure on that one though.
Ok just let me know
This kind of thing has happened before...and based on the value of the cards you can notify the police in their area...but first mail them a letter telling them that it is a possibility because you do have a contract that's written through PM's or wall posts. Elite you wrote a letter last time....but I remember that that person redeemed himself. In the case of kuberr I think he set everyone up and got them to trust him then betrayed that trust.
Quote from: Sagemaster on January 09, 2013, 12:29:02 AM
This kind of thing has happened before...and based on the value of the cards you can notify the police in their area...but first mail them a letter telling them that it is a possibility because you do have a contract that's written through PM's or wall posts. Elite you wrote a letter last time....but I remember that that person redeemed himself. In the case of kuberr I think he set everyone up and got them to trust him then betrayed that trust.
That's exactly what he did... I had made a few lower value trades with him first just fine along with everyone else. From what I was told by almost all the people. And then he just dissappered. I sent Letters to his mailing address and a mod even called the cops but nothing ever came of it. I even got my letters back unopened. Made me wonder if that last mailing address was even his own.
Bump, any new scammers/untrusted traders?
Haven't recieved from PhillE and it's been two weeks
Bump, wish it would get stickied
This thread is for legitimate untrustworthy traders, please don't run down someone name just cause they might late. Other then that don't lie and be fair.
Thanks Rasser
We got stickied!!!! Thanks everyone
There's always going to be scammers. It's not like buying on eBay using PayPal to protect yourself. Is there an escrow service, or someone here that everyone trusts (like an admin/mod) willingly accept the transaction as a mediator and when both sides received, he/she will mail the proper trade to each other, as a protection barrier?
It's been done in the past. Ask a mod for help if that's the route you want to take
Ok so I'm going to place myself on this list for a little bit because I have trades that are "missing" in the mail on my end and some that have not arrived on other people's ends. I'm not going to name names besides myself because I'm not entirely sure if it could be considered them untrusted or our postal system that is untrusted. For all I know it could be someone in MY post office stealing cards :(
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 16, 2013, 06:14:45 PM
Ok so I'm going to place myself on this list for a little bit because I have trades that are "missing" in the mail on my end and some that have not arrived on other people's ends. I'm not going to name names besides myself because I'm not entirely sure if it could be considered them untrusted or our postal system that is untrusted. For all I know it could be someone in MY post office stealing cards :(
Yeah, that is a big question; how trustworthy is the postal service? If I could i would personally deliver my cards
Quote from: S717 on January 16, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 16, 2013, 06:14:45 PM
Ok so I'm going to place myself on this list for a little bit because I have trades that are "missing" in the mail on my end and some that have not arrived on other people's ends. I'm not going to name names besides myself because I'm not entirely sure if it could be considered them untrusted or our postal system that is untrusted. For all I know it could be someone in MY post office stealing cards :(
Yeah, that is a big question; how trustworthy is the postal service? If I could i would personally deliver my cards
For sure!! I honestly don't trade over $20-$30 (usually) just because I know something could happen in the mailing process. Wouldn't be the first time!
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 16, 2013, 07:30:27 PM
Quote from: S717 on January 16, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 16, 2013, 06:14:45 PM
Ok so I'm going to place myself on this list for a little bit because I have trades that are "missing" in the mail on my end and some that have not arrived on other people's ends. I'm not going to name names besides myself because I'm not entirely sure if it could be considered them untrusted or our postal system that is untrusted. For all I know it could be someone in MY post office stealing cards :(
Yeah, that is a big question; how trustworthy is the postal service? If I could i would personally deliver my cards
For sure!! I honestly don't trade over $20-$30 (usually) just because I know something could happen in the mailing process. Wouldn't be the first time!
I think I'm going to start doing this myself as well just because all of the trades that are in question are well over $50... And it seems like every time it happens. First it was Kuberr now it's these. Sadly though those kind of trades are my only hope of getting ahold of dual lands like {underground sea} and such (if they even show up in the mail) my lgs refuses to get such cards in because they think they won't sell at all
The post sucks, pretty sure it just lost both ends of a trade between MetalMadMan and I, unless he's a ripper XD
What do you mean?
Quote from: Xaol on January 16, 2013, 09:14:08 PM
The post sucks, pretty sure it just lost both ends of a trade between MetalMadMan and I, unless he's a ripper XD
Uh-oh..... He'd be one of the trades :( I was speaking of. I hope that's not the case, I've always had good trades with him and last time I spoke to him he said he would make up for the cards missing...
Quote from: Xaol on January 16, 2013, 09:14:08 PM
The post sucks, pretty sure it just lost both ends of a trade between MetalMadMan and I, unless he's a ripper XD
Hmmm, I've been waiting since before Christmas for his end. Granted the envelope I sent got ripped in the mailing and what I sent didn't make it there. It's suspicious though. Ive always seen good trades between him and other people though.
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 16, 2013, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: Xaol on January 16, 2013, 09:14:08 PM
The post sucks, pretty sure it just lost both ends of a trade between MetalMadMan and I, unless he's a ripper XD
Hmmm, I've been waiting since before Christmas for his end. Granted the envelope I sent got ripped in the mailing and what I sent didn't make it there. It's suspicious though. Ive always seen good trades between him and other people though.
Actually? This is good to hear. So the post is just slow to send to him/recieve to him, I guess. You've had successful trades with him?
Quote from: Xaol on January 16, 2013, 09:14:08 PM
Actually? This is good to hear. So the post is just slow to send to him/recieve to him, I guess. You've had successful trades with him?
Actually MetalMadMan is a great guy to trade with. I've 1 or 2 successful trades with him. He's always kept in contact through the deal.
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 06:12:50 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 16, 2013, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: Xaol on January 16, 2013, 09:14:08 PM
The post sucks, pretty sure it just lost both ends of a trade between MetalMadMan and I, unless he's a ripper XD
Hmmm, I've been waiting since before Christmas for his end. Granted the envelope I sent got ripped in the mailing and what I sent didn't make it there. It's suspicious though. Ive always seen good trades between him and other people though.
Actually? This is good to hear. So the post is just slow to send to him/recieve to him, I guess. You've had successful trades with him?
I haven't traded with him before, no. But a lot of other people have. And he has kept in contact, so I'm guessing it is just slow mail.
I don't know... He just pm'd me letting me know that he's getting my "birthday card" tommrrow an will send Saturday but when I go to reply app says that it won't send my pm because "user was not found" or w/e
If you ask me, switched names or just left the forum all together seems really really really shady to me... But I've never had a probiblem with him before. I swear if he pulled a Kuberr I'm gonna flip!
Quote from: Piotr on January 17, 2013, 11:43:56 AM
Looks like he deleted his account again.
Don't like that guys totally shady move.... I deem metal untrustworthy untill further notice!!!!
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: Piotr on January 17, 2013, 11:43:56 AM
Looks like he deleted his account again.
Don't like that guys totally shady move.... I deem metal untrustworthy untill further notice!!!!
He deleted his account.
Yea sent me a pm when he got on today and then as soon as he was done deleted his account I don't like it
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 06:12:50 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 16, 2013, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: Xaol on January 16, 2013, 09:14:08 PM
The post sucks, pretty sure it just lost both ends of a trade between MetalMadMan and I, unless he's a ripper XD
Hmmm, I've been waiting since before Christmas for his end. Granted the envelope I sent got ripped in the mailing and what I sent didn't make it there. It's suspicious though. Ive always seen good trades between him and other people though.
Actually? This is good to hear. So the post is just slow to send to him/recieve to him, I guess. You've had successful trades with him?
I haven't traded with him before, no. But a lot of other people have. And he has kept in contact, so I'm guessing it is just slow mail.
I would like to point out that kubber did the same exact thing. He was a trusted trader and had quite a few good trades, then people started having issues with him and his cards not coming in but he would keep in contact saying that he is trying to figure it out and he will send them again or whatever....and then we all know the end to that story. Personally I think it is pretty sad that we even need to have a thread about untrustworthy traders. It just seems like sense the kubber incident happened people have been just ripping other people off left and right. It is rather sad and makes me not really want to trade on here anymore.
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
Yea sent me a pm when he got on today and then as soon as he was done deleted his account I don't like it
Same! Man, I will have lost an ungodly amount of money if this is true.
Did you say he's deleted his account before? Maybe there is hope?
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
Yea sent me a pm when he got on today and then as soon as he was done deleted his account I don't like it
Same! Man, I will have lost an ungodly amount of money if this is true.
Did you say he's deleted his account before? Maybe there is hope?
Yea Piotr said he's deleted his own account before I just don't like the timeing and your not the only one! I made a trade for 1 of the {Underground Sea} he had and it never came in....
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
Yea sent me a pm when he got on today and then as soon as he was done deleted his account I don't like it
Same! Man, I will have lost an ungodly amount of money if this is true.
Did you say he's deleted his account before? Maybe there is hope?
Yea Piotr said he's deleted his own account before I just don't like the timeing and your not the only one! I made a trade for 1 of the {Underground Sea} he had and it never came in....
Ugh, I traded him so many cards... So many... Hopefully this gets resolved soon, or else I will try to file for mail fraud.
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
I'll probably give him a little while. I've never had to file for mail fraud before...
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
I'll probably give him a little while. I've never had to file for mail fraud before...
Same he said he'd be sending out my "birthday card" sat so if its not here by gatecrash release I'm kinda screwed on my preorder was goons use that cash to pay it off
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
He actually lives like 30 mins from me and I have his address. If it gets to the point of you never hear anything from him let me know and I'll pay him a visit.
Quote from: Ace on January 17, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
He actually lives like 30 mins from me and I have his address. If it gets to the point of you never hear anything from him let me know and I'll pay him a visit.
Ok will do
Wow, that really sucks! I had 2 prospective trades about to go through too! Well at least I hadn't sent any cards yet. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you guys :)
Quote from: Ace on January 17, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
He actually lives like 30 mins from me and I have his address. If it gets to the point of you never hear anything from him let me know and I'll pay him a visit.
Please don't do that. It's just asking for trouble, not to mention its intimidation, threatening, and illegal.
Please pm me if you have cards currently in trade with MetalMadMan or have been ripped on by him in recent dealings. Include trade specifics involved and any other relevant info you want to share. I want to get an idea of how many people and what kind of money we are looking at here. All PMs with me will be kept confidential. Together I will help you all take the proper legal actions. I am texting my lawyer friend immediately to get his advice for everyone.
Quote from: Gorzo on January 17, 2013, 02:17:16 PM
Quote from: Ace on January 17, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
He actually lives like 30 mins from me and I have his address. If it gets to the point of you never hear anything from him let me know and I'll pay him a visit.
Please don't do that. It's just asking for trouble, not to mention its intimidation, threatening, and illegal.
Please pm me if you have cards currently in trade with MetalMadMan or have been ripped on by him in recent dealings. Include trade specifics involved and any other relevant info you want to share. I want to get an idea of how many people and what kind of money we are looking at here. All PMs with me will be kept confidential. Together I will help you all take the proper legal actions. I am texting my lawyer friend immediately to get his advice for everyone.
Thank you, Gorzo.
Going to his house, while seemingly the best course of action, is the worst. It's easily intimidation which can land you in a lot of trouble. Also, we have no way of knowing what kind of guy he is.
Quote from: Gorzo on January 17, 2013, 02:17:16 PM
Quote from: Ace on January 17, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
He actually lives like 30 mins from me and I have his address. If it gets to the point of you never hear anything from him let me know and I'll pay him a visit.
Please don't do that. It's just asking for trouble, not to mention its intimidation, threatening, and illegal.
Please pm me if you have cards currently in trade with MetalMadMan or have been ripped on by him in recent dealings. Include trade specifics involved and any other relevant info you want to share. I want to get an idea of how many people and what kind of money we are looking at here. All PMs with me will be kept confidential. Together I will help you all take the proper legal actions. I am texting my lawyer friend immediately to get his advice for everyone.
It may be illegal but on the other hand so is stealing
Quote from: S717 on January 17, 2013, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 17, 2013, 02:17:16 PM
Quote from: Ace on January 17, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
He actually lives like 30 mins from me and I have his address. If it gets to the point of you never hear anything from him let me know and I'll pay him a visit.
Please don't do that. It's just asking for trouble, not to mention its intimidation, threatening, and illegal.
Please pm me if you have cards currently in trade with MetalMadMan or have been ripped on by him in recent dealings. Include trade specifics involved and any other relevant info you want to share. I want to get an idea of how many people and what kind of money we are looking at here. All PMs with me will be kept confidential. Together I will help you all take the proper legal actions. I am texting my lawyer friend immediately to get his advice for everyone.
It may be illegal but on the other hand so is stealing
But going to his house won't solve anything. It's the police's job, if anyone's. That's what they're trained to do, after all.
I really don't care what gets done so long as I either get my money or cards....
Well, this is disturbing news about metalmadman. I have pretty good size trade in progress with him. I checked him out before trading with him. He's on the trusted trader list. I sent my end of our trade out almost 2 weeks ago. I pmed him when it had been a week, and he said he hadn't gotten my end yet either, so I just figured the mail was slow. I pmed him early this am and told him I still had not received. He pmed me back and said he still hasn't received either, and now his profile is deleted. Wtf?!?
Quote from: Gorzo on January 17, 2013, 02:17:16 PM
Quote from: Ace on January 17, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I know how you feel man I traded like half a deck worth of standerd cards for that one land so if you file lemme know
He actually lives like 30 mins from me and I have his address. If it gets to the point of you never hear anything from him let me know and I'll pay him a visit.
Please don't do that. It's just asking for trouble, not to mention its intimidation, threatening, and illegal.
Please pm me if you have cards currently in trade with MetalMadMan or have been ripped on by him in recent dealings. Include trade specifics involved and any other relevant info you want to share. I want to get an idea of how many people and what kind of money we are looking at here. All PMs with me will be kept confidential. Together I will help you all take the proper legal actions. I am texting my lawyer friend immediately to get his advice for everyone.
I pmed you a copy of the trade agreement that metalmadman and I had.
As well as I and hey yay family friendly avatar now! Lol
This is really rough. The cards he was supposed to send me were for my trademark Norin Soul Sister deck... :/
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
This is really rough. The cards he was supposed to send me were for my trademark Norin Soul Sister deck... :/
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you potentially lose? You don't have to tell me anything, I just have trouble silencing my curious side sometimes.
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
This is really rough. The cards he was supposed to send me were for my trademark Norin Soul Sister deck... :/
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you potentially lose? You don't have to tell me anything, I just have trouble silencing my curious side sometimes.
2 {Vraska the Unseen}
4 {Blood Crypt}
4 {Dragonskull Summit}
2 {Steam Vents}
2 {Sulfur Falls}
1 {Garruk Wildspeaker}
1 {Overgrown Tomb} (old one)
I don't even want to figure out the values of those...
Yea about the same as me give or take a few buddy/shock lands
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
As well as I and hey yay family friendly avatar now! Lol
Now I don't have something to look forward to while creeping through the forum, haha
Figured I'd add this finally.
{Killabud12} - (Lost a {Bonfire of the Damned} to him, when it was at $50)
{UNDIYINGburrit0} - (Never sent my {Gravecrawler}, small scale but still)
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
As well as I and hey yay family friendly avatar now! Lol
Praise jeebus for that!
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
As well as I and hey yay family friendly avatar now! Lol
Praise jeebus for that!
If someone really didnt like that last one all they had to do was pm me an I would have gladly changed it lol
At one point I was trying to set up a trade with metal madman but I dropped it because he seemed to be pushing high value trades (saying he has foils over regular, asking if I'm sure I don't want the foil, etc.)... And the whole revised booster box thing seemed really strange. I do hope he didn't scam though.
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
As well as I and hey yay family friendly avatar now! Lol
Praise jeebus for that!
If someone really didnt like that last one all they had to do was pm me an I would have gladly changed it lol
I was kidding lol! I didn't mind, but at the same time I won't miss it haha.
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 09:07:02 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 17, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
As well as I and hey yay family friendly avatar now! Lol
Praise jeebus for that!
If someone really didnt like that last one all they had to do was pm me an I would have gladly changed it lol
I was kidding lol! I didn't mind, but at the same time I won't miss it haha.
I always chuckled when I saw his old picture.
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 17, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
At one point I was trying to set up a trade with metal madman but I dropped it because he seemed to be pushing high value trades (saying he has foils over regular, asking if I'm sure I don't want the foil, etc.)... And the whole revised booster box thing seemed really strange. I do hope he didn't scam though.
What revised booster box thing??
He said he had bought a box of revised from someone on here (haven't seen that person again also) then when he got it put duals lands and money cards up for trade to bait people in
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 17, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
At one point I was trying to set up a trade with metal madman but I dropped it because he seemed to be pushing high value trades (saying he has foils over regular, asking if I'm sure I don't want the foil, etc.)... And the whole revised booster box thing seemed really strange. I do hope he didn't scam though.
What revised booster box thing??
He met with someone who was on here for a short while and bought a $1000-$1500 revised booster box. They met and everything, but I don't think the other person ever got back on.
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 17, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
At one point I was trying to set up a trade with metal madman but I dropped it because he seemed to be pushing high value trades (saying he has foils over regular, asking if I'm sure I don't want the foil, etc.)... And the whole revised booster box thing seemed really strange. I do hope he didn't scam though.
What revised booster box thing??
He met with someone who was on here for a short while and bought a $1000-$1500 revised booster box. They met and everything, but I don't think the other person ever got back on.
Twist:
That other person was him all along, trying to bait us!
(Discuss)
That's kinda what I had wondered. Lol is this going the same direction as Kuberr? Are we going to have make a whole threaddedicated to it?
Twist:
Maybe he is Kuberr! jkjk
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 09:32:06 PM
That's kinda what I had wondered. Lol is this going the same direction as Kuberr? Are we going to have make a whole threaddedicated to it?
Twist:
Maybe he is Kuberr! jkjk
This might be going in the same direction as the Kuberr thing. If the mods don't decide something in the next few days, I think I will make a thread about it.
Honestly wasn't joking about the thread actually. It seems like, if he has indeed duped us, he has gotten to several people. This is very reminiscent of the Kuberr incident, in my opinion.
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 17, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
At one point I was trying to set up a trade with metal madman but I dropped it because he seemed to be pushing high value trades (saying he has foils over regular, asking if I'm sure I don't want the foil, etc.)... And the whole revised booster box thing seemed really strange. I do hope he didn't scam though.
What revised booster box thing??
He met with someone who was on here for a short while and bought a $1000-$1500 revised booster box. They met and everything, but I don't think the other person ever got back on.
Twist:
That other person was him all along, trying to bait us!
(Discuss)
Did that person reply to anyone else about getting a box? I know she didn't reply to me. Seems like another kuberr. Siiiigh
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
Quote from: Xaol on January 17, 2013, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on January 17, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 17, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
At one point I was trying to set up a trade with metal madman but I dropped it because he seemed to be pushing high value trades (saying he has foils over regular, asking if I'm sure I don't want the foil, etc.)... And the whole revised booster box thing seemed really strange. I do hope he didn't scam though.
What revised booster box thing??
He met with someone who was on here for a short while and bought a $1000-$1500 revised booster box. They met and everything, but I don't think the other person ever got back on.
Twist:
That other person was him all along, trying to bait us!
(Discuss)
Did that person reply to anyone else about getting a box? I know she didn't reply to me. Seems like another kuberr. Siiiigh
She replied to me but I never traded for the box simply because I didn't have what they wanted at the time
I'm going to feel so bad if it is just slow mail and he comes back all pissed off lol. Granted it isn't looking like that
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 09:46:24 PM
I'm going to feel so bad if it is just slow mail and he comes back all pissed off lol. Granted it isn't looking like that
If that be the case Id feel like a complete ass hole
There was also the story about his brother getting into standard and him having all these BA older staples and such. If he wasnt scamming people and it was just slow mail, I don't understand why'd he delete his account.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
There was also the story about his brother getting into standard and him having all these BA older staples and such. If he wasnt scamming people and it was just slow mail, I don't understand why'd he delete his account.
Wondering the same thing here, actually. Hopefully it's the mail being slow, but one person said they'd been waiting since Christmas, and I've been waiting since the first of January.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
There was also the story about his brother getting into standard and him having all these BA older staples and such. If he wasnt scamming people and it was just slow mail, I don't understand why'd he delete his account.
Same deleting his account was a very suspicious move on his part.
Oh, I just remembered, wasn't he thatoneguyjoey who did the original scandals way back when? Didn't he make the metalmadman account and try to redeem himself?
Normally I'd say give him a couple more weeks, but since he deleted his account, im leaning towards the "you've been had" side of the situation. Which is unfortunate because I hate seeing good people such as yourselves getting taken advantage of.
I've been waiting since December 16th :P
I've kinda just gone with the "You've been had" mentality. Trading on here has become so damn risky since Kuberr. That's really irritating! Used to be so good....
Just want to update you guys/gal that the mods are discussing this. Both what to do now about this incident and ways to prevent it from happening in the future.
Quote from: Gorzo on January 18, 2013, 01:13:50 AM
Just want to update you guys/gal that the mods are discussing this. Both what to do now about this incident and ways to prevent it from happening in the future.
Good to know....I hate hearing about good traders getting ripped off. Although it did happen to me. {XBeLLaTriX} was the one I was cheated by, but I'm not bothered by it as much as I was when it first happened. So I hope we can find a way to keep this from happening again.
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 17, 2013, 09:56:48 PM
Oh, I just remembered, wasn't he thatoneguyjoey who did the original scandals way back when? Didn't he make the metalmadman account and try to redeem himself?
Yep
Not gonna lie I saw this coming I emailed some mods and said something wasn't right and everyone assured me it was fine and he just had alot of cards to trade 😑
Quote from: Ericlay95 on January 18, 2013, 10:53:06 AM
Not gonna lie I saw this coming I emailed some mods and said something wasn't right and everyone assured me it was fine and he just had alot of cards to trade 😑
Im almost half tempted to use his name and address at spokeo.com just to get his phone number n call him
Did metalmadman rip me off?! I sent him
3 lilianas 2 jaces and 3 sorins.. I'm so pissed off right now he still hasn't sent my end of the trade and he too me he sent when he received. I message him 2 days ago said that he sent.. Now his account is deleted...
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 18, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: Ericlay95 on January 18, 2013, 10:53:06 AM
Not gonna lie I saw this coming I emailed some mods and said something wasn't right and everyone assured me it was fine and he just had alot of cards to trade 😑
Im almost half tempted to use his name and address at spokeo.com just to get his phone number n call him
Do it and call the police too
one of us had to have sent cash ... If you're following. Which would make the police alot more helpful in the matter
Quote from: Ericlay95 on January 18, 2013, 12:24:48 PM
Quote from: Juggalonoke on January 18, 2013, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: Ericlay95 on January 18, 2013, 10:53:06 AM
Not gonna lie I saw this coming I emailed some mods and said something wasn't right and everyone assured me it was fine and he just had alot of cards to trade 😑
Im almost half tempted to use his name and address at spokeo.com just to get his phone number n call him
Do it and call the police too
one of us had to have sent cash ... If you're following. Which would make the police alot more helpful in the matter
Ill give him a bit longer he is supposed to be sending me cash tommrrow 😐
Let me know if you guys need me to contact the police also. I'm a minor, but I'm sure there is something I can do.
Quote from: Xaol on January 18, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
Let me know if you guys need me to contact the police also. I'm a minor, but I'm sure there is something I can do.
I traded him $185 worth of stuff and he keeps sayin that he's gonna send now he deleted his account
Have the mods reached anything conclusive?
I'd like to note, if you are going to file for mail fraud:
http://ehome.uspis.gov/fcsexternal/default.aspx
I suggest none of us do this until the mods work out something.
Ill give it another week then ill file for it
Quote from: Andrew78384 on January 19, 2013, 04:29:20 PM
Ill give it another week then ill file for it
Same for me... I'd also like to know if the mods have made a choice as well
What choice?
IMtG Law does not have power beyond this forum. If it had, it would be perfectly legal for the victims of this crime to go over his house, take forcefully their cards as restitution and smack his face as retribution.
I'm told the law which governs you says that going over to his house is illegal. Some law.
Well then I just lost a lot of money cards
I've sent a few PMs to people regarding legal stuff. If anyone else needs to know (got ripped off) and did not recieve a pm from me, please send me one and I will send a reply. Thanks.
We do need to focus on ways to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. I'll make a new "making trades safer" thread in suggestions/feedback. I highly encourage input and suggestions from the trading community. I know I speak for all of us mods when I say it really pisses me off to see our community members get screwed over. I don't want it to happen again, you guys don't deserve it.
Quote from: Gorzo on January 20, 2013, 01:33:08 AM
I've sent a few PMs to people regarding legal stuff. If anyone else needs to know (got ripped off) and did not recieve a pm from me, please send me one and I will send a reply. Thanks.
We do need to focus on ways to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. I'll make a new "making trades safer" thread in suggestions/feedback. I highly encourage input and suggestions from the trading community. I know I speak for all of us mods when I say it really pisses me off to see our community members get screwed over. I don't want it to happen again, you guys don't deserve it.
I think one big way of preventing this is from now any trades that are bigger than like 40 dollars or so needs to have a mod or someone be a middle man. Just a thought.
Couple of suggestions:
If selling cards for cash - post it on eBay. So it can be traced.
Employ middlemen - as per ace's suggestion
Get person to send scans of cards - more as proof they have it.
Draft a contract using a template - something legally binding...
Quote from: Mclim on January 20, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
Couple of suggestions:
If selling cards for cash - post it on eBay. So it can be traced.
Employ middlemen - as per ace's suggestion
Get person to send scans of cards - more as proof they have it.
Draft a contract using a template - something legally binding...
That may be a good idea for large trades ($100+) but for smaller transactions, that would seem like overkill. We also need to keep in mind the ease of trade this forum offers without having to sign a 100 page contract. Of course it will deter the dishonest folks from doing business but it will also discourage casual traders and new people to the forum hoping to get involved. Just my 2¢.
Quote from: Audiophile03 on January 20, 2013, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: Mclim on January 20, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
Couple of suggestions:
If selling cards for cash - post it on eBay. So it can be traced.
Employ middlemen - as per ace's suggestion
Get person to send scans of cards - more as proof they have it.
Draft a contract using a template - something legally binding...
That may be a good idea for large trades ($100+) but for smaller transactions, that would seem like overkill. We also need to keep in mind the ease of trade this forum offers without having to sign a 100 page contract. Of course it will deter the dishonest folks from doing business
What do you mean?
Quote from: Piotr on January 20, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
What do you mean?
What I mean is, I think there should be some precautions taken for larger trades such as a medium and even mailing with tracking (a pretty cheap option when sending) but I don't feel that it should necessarily be a requirement for small to medium value/sized trades. Either way, I have started to send all my trades with tracking numbers for the traders and my security and confidence in trading. I hope I explained that well enough :)
Thanks!
Agree with you audiophile. It's really up to both parties how comfortable they are with the risk regarding the value of the trade.
I'm pretty sure that they are plenty of good traders out there and these measures were for cases where the trade doesn't feel right.
Has anyone traded with Epicone?
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on January 25, 2013, 06:40:25 AM
Has anyone traded with Epicone?
Haven't heard back from this guy. Been about 3 weeks. I would say untrustworthy until something changes.
We had a suggestion of using the mods as go betweens for large trades, for those who don't know could we have something to tell us exactly who the mods are?
Quote from: S717 on January 28, 2013, 12:02:18 PM
We had a suggestion of using the mods as go betweens for large trades, for those who don't know could we have something to tell us exactly who the mods are?
Look under announcements, and look at the "Gathering Council" topic.
Elders are global mods, Hands are local mods.
Cltrn81
Dudecore
Kaleo42
Spikepit
Rasser
Gorzo
Coffee Vampire
edit: These are Mods not untrustworthy traders to be clear.
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 28, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
Cltrn81
Dudecore
Kaleo42
Spikepit
Rasser
Gorzo
Coffee Vampire
Aren't these all the mods? Just curious if there is a story behind this? If so would you mind sharing it with me? Either post or pm
Quote from: Rass on January 28, 2013, 01:20:22 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 28, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
Cltrn81
Dudecore
Kaleo42
Spikepit
Rasser
Gorzo
Coffee Vampire
Aren't these all the mods? Just curious if there is a story behind this? If so would you mind sharing it with me? Either post or pm
All but one 😕
S717 was asking for the mods, so he listed them, if that's what you were wondering.
Lol thanks I thought he was listing them all as untrust worthy traders.
Quote from: Keyeto on January 28, 2013, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: Rass on January 28, 2013, 01:20:22 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 28, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
Cltrn81
Dudecore
Kaleo42
Spikepit
Rasser
Gorzo
Coffee Vampire
Aren't these all the mods? Just curious if there is a story behind this? If so would you mind sharing it with me? Either post or pm
All but one 😕
S717 was asking for the mods, so he listed them, if that's what you were wondering.
D: I didn't even see your name there!! Sorry bout that Keyeto! And yeah, these are the mods that are currently active. Including Keyeto! :D
In this circumstance it's very complicated law wise in the states
Epicone is untrustworthy. Bad communication. Been about a month and no cards. Quit responding to my PMs about 2-2 1/2 weeks ago.
Hopefully you didn't lose too much?!
Until further notice, ericlay94 and ericlay95 are being added, due to long wait time and multiple vouchers of issues, againt one voucher for him that cited a trade from long ago. If not fixed, my losses will be a ravnica {overgrown tomb}.
This is problematic to me cause I literally JUST sent cards to him inside the last 20 minutes. He better be good for it. :-/
Check out the post i made and judge for yourself.
Quote from: MisterJH on February 14, 2013, 10:33:39 PM
Until further notice, ericlay94 and ericlay95 are being added, due to long wait time and multiple vouchers of issues, againt one voucher for him that cited a trade from long ago. If not fixed, my losses will be a ravnica {overgrown tomb}.
{Ericlay94}
Fullerton CA 92835
Be vigilant of this city, state, and zip
Will remove this post if my cards come in.
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on February 15, 2013, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on February 14, 2013, 10:33:39 PM
Until further notice, ericlay94 and ericlay95 are being added, due to long wait time and multiple vouchers of issues, againt one voucher for him that cited a trade from long ago. If not fixed, my losses will be a ravnica {overgrown tomb}.
{Ericlay94}
Fullerton CA 92835
Be vigilant of this city, state, and zip
Will remove this post if my cards come in.
Seconded, very late on two overgrown tombs.
{Andrew78384} has been long long overdue. He apologized over two weeks ago and stated that he would send out cards that day or the next.
I am putting him up here until the cards arrive or until he responds back.
He received cards from me first and planned to mail out cards on 1/22/13. He then ran into some troubles, and subsequently responded stating he would send out on 1/31/13.
I haven't been here Or played since ravnica released but wow I can't believe y'all got ripped off by metalmadman again. I still couldn't believe people were even trading with him after thatoneguyjoey incident. I know he apologized and sent some people their cards back but there were 2 at least that posted saying he never sent their cards back with that kind of background I don't see how u could ever make it onto the trusted traders list. I voiced my opinion on this a couple of times but people continued trading with him.
Shinfo.
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on February 18, 2013, 09:56:56 AM
{Andrew78384} has been long long overdue. He apologized over two weeks ago and stated that he would send out cards that day or the next.
I am putting him up here until the cards arrive or until he responds back.
He received cards from me first and planned to mail out cards on 1/22/13. He then ran into some troubles, and subsequently responded stating he would send out on 1/31/13.
I am in the same boat he even went as far as to give me his cell number and communicated to him through that but still a solid month after him getting his cards nothing. Ad no contact at all from Andrew78384
Quote from: {cholla173} on February 25, 2013, 04:56:15 AM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on February 18, 2013, 09:56:56 AM
{Andrew78384} has been long long overdue. He apologized over two weeks ago and stated that he would send out cards that day or the next.
I am putting him up here until the cards arrive or until he responds back.
He received cards from me first and planned to mail out cards on 1/22/13. He then ran into some troubles, and subsequently responded stating he would send out on 1/31/13.
I am in the same boat he even went as far as to give me his cell number and communicated to him through that but still a solid month after him getting his cards nothing. Ad no contact at all from Andrew78384
What is really annoying is that he signed onto this app as recently as Friday!
So have you attempted to call/txt him recently??
Not since last week
Quote from: Raven316 on February 26, 2013, 06:05:07 PM
I'm also a victim of Ericlay94 / ericlay95
Eric Hansen
951 Verona drive
Fullerton CA 92835
I hadn't read the post before I mailed my card to him I've noticed that he hasn't been online since we agreed on a deal makes me rethink the whole trading idea it was a $8 card but it really sucks.... Nobody leaving near him it would be nice if he got a visit from someone since we have his address
Read his post in the trade section "please read"
Post #2 see below
In the trade section there is a post called {Please Read}
Quote from: Rasser on February 26, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
In the trade section there is a post called {Please Read}
Ok thanks
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on February 18, 2013, 09:56:56 AM
{Andrew78384} has been long long overdue. He apologized over two weeks ago and stated that he would send out cards that day or the next.
I am putting him up here until the cards arrive or until he responds back.
He received cards from me first and planned to mail out cards on 1/22/13. He then ran into some troubles, and subsequently responded stating he would send out on 1/31/13.
Haven't got my cards in a few months either.
Im placing Nissassagame on this list and will remove accordingly if I ever get my cards.
Quote from: KangaRod on April 14, 2013, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: Umbra on March 25, 2013, 08:58:46 PM
I'd be willing to do this, moon veil is also a foil
I'll give you:
{Repercussion} (Urza's Destiny)
{Hoard-Smelter Dragon} (Scars of Mirrodin)
{Moonveil Dragon} (Dark Ascension)
{Journeyer's Kite} (Duel Decks: Venser vs. Koth)
{Dragonspeaker Shaman} (Duel Decks: Knights vs Dragons)
{Koth of the Hammer} (Duel Decks: Venser vs. Koth)
For your:
{Blackcleave Cliffs} (Scars of Mirrodin)
{Burning-Tree Emissary} (Gatecrash)
{Sunpetal Grove} (Magic 2013 (M13))
{Augur of Bolas} (Magic 2013 (M13))
Open in Trading (http://imtgapp.com/forum/iMtGTradeShow.php?trade_id=1442)
Then we traded addresses and I sent out
Quote from: Umbra on March 25, 2013, 09:50:23 PM
Awesome, I can send them out by Wednesday
Audie Garver
------------
He hasn't logged in since the 3rd of April and hasn't responded to any of my messages. Of course none of my cards showed up.
http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=19600.0
I recommend removing his address, him being listed here is enough. Everyone named on this thread is a bad egg, that is known. The posting of an address is a little much, especially since it wasn't an extremely high value trade, not saying that even that justifies it or deminishes the fact that you were wronged. I lost a {Bonfire of the Damned} when it was valued at $50, it sucks man, I know 😓 It happens to the best of us.
EDIT: It appears addresses are fair game, sorry about that! Carry on 😁👍
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 14, 2013, 06:07:59 PM
Boyesrobert. I sent first as a relatively new trader, he said he recieved my end but not that he sent out. Ill take this down as soon as I get mine in
Well this is expletive deleted , it hasn't even been a week and I've kept you updated.
keep calm, carry on. -DC
Quote from: Boyesrobert on April 15, 2013, 08:44:55 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 14, 2013, 06:07:59 PM
Boyesrobert. I sent first as a relatively new trader, he said he recieved my end but not that he sent out. Ill take this down as soon as I get mine in
Well this is A PG-9 forum, it hasn't even been a week and I've kept you updated.
I received your end April 11th, that is 4 days ago. There is hardly a reason that you should be worried, especially since I let you know that I was out of town all weekend, they will be out today
Hey fellas, I understand there has been tension with people getting ripped off, but lets please save the bickering for PMs. Lets leave this thread to names and why they're untrusted and that's it. PM each other if you want to argue who's right and wrong, and edit posts accordingly if a resolution is reached.
I find no harm in listing people's names and addresses if they are bad traders. MOTL does this and people don't complain bc it helps protect traders.
If everyone can, please PM me the address of any untrusted traders that youre aware of. Thank you.
Boyesrobert/therobsta12 - this user has been known to send cards different from those that were agreed upon, and he never sent me my card from our trade. It is recommended that people make this user send first.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 03, 2013, 10:03:45 AM
Boyesrobert/therobsta12 - this user has been known to send cards different from those that were agreed upon, and he never sent me my card from our trade. It is recommended that people make this user send first.
I've taken this advice and asked him to send first in our potential trade. Ill update when finished
Anybody else get scammed by All-Mana Mania?
Two months ago, I made a trade with a El Bellfry Toro from Puerto Rico, but at the time, he didn't have the money to send me his end here in the states. So, we both kept our sides of the bargain until he had the money. I waited a month to hear back from him before I messaged him asking if I should just trade with someone else. He said no that he would send the cards once his mom could take him to the post office. Again I waited for two weeks to hear from him, and he said that he would take the cards to the post office the next day. So, I went ahead and finally mailed my side to him. Last week, he confirmed that he received my cards, but went on to say that he had yet to send my cards but again they would be in the mail the very next day. I still have not received the cards, and I have not heard from him since. He's at least stayed in touch with me on and off, but I'm beginning to doubt I'll ever get the cards! I didn't want to completely ruin his reputation by posting here since he seemed to be new, but it's been WAY too long. If he ever gets me the cards, I will delete this post.
Still nothing... So I am editing what I said before... Even if I finally get my cards, I will not remove this post... Everyone needs to know what to expect from him...
Looks like therobsta said he would send first, but never did. It's been two weeks, I've seen no cards, nor gotten a response. Told him I will be canceling the trade tonight if I didn't hear back. What's the procedure if somehow at some point I do receive the cards he was supposed to send? Just return to sender?
Quote from: Blaze2100 on May 16, 2013, 09:57:23 PM
Looks like therobsta said he would send first, but never did. It's been two weeks, I've seen no cards, nor gotten a response. Told him I will be canceling the trade tonight if I didn't hear back. What's the procedure if somehow at some point I do receive the cards he was supposed to send? Just return to sender?
Return to sender or you an send your cards
Is this list up to date? I plan to start trading here and I'm wanting to steer clear of unrustworthy traders. I consider myself trustworthy so I plan to deal with traders who have a good reputation only.
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on May 29, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
Is this list up to date? I plan to start trading here and I'm wanting to steer clear of unrustworthy traders. I consider myself trustworthy so I plan to deal with traders who have a good reputation only.
Look in the trusted traders thread to get a good idea of good traders. If you have a question on anyone, feel free to ask me or any of the other mods.
Ill be sure to do that. I've justbeenasked about my huntmaster but I can't find any info on whether he's a god trader or not...went through the trusted traders and he's not in there. Then again he's not in I trusted traders either. Ill mail you the name and see if you've got any info.
You can try using the search button. Unfortunately it might bring up every post the person has ever made lol but if they have a u issue name it's definitely worth trying
Remember guys, if in doubt, you can use the Middle-man service that some of the Mods have been awesome enough to volunteer for.
I'm pretty new to it all but I'm gettin there sorry