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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Jdogtoocool on January 06, 2013, 12:06:54 AM

Title: Regenerate, Totem Armor, Destroy
Post by: Jdogtoocool on January 06, 2013, 12:06:54 AM
What if I have a totem armor on a creature that can regenerate. If its about to get destroyed and I pay the regenerating cost on the creature does the totem armor trigger and destroyed itself instead or does it get saved? How does this interaction take place?

{troll ascetic} {snake umbra} {day of judgement}
Title: Re: Troll ascetic snake umbra wrath
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 06, 2013, 12:15:02 AM
Both are replacement effects. They replace the creature being destroyed. When there are two effects that would replace the same thing, you choose which applies first.

It would be best to have regenerate apply first, so the totem armor will stay.
Title: Re: Troll ascetic snake umbra wrath
Post by: Gorzo on January 06, 2013, 12:18:26 AM
Quote from: Jdogtoocool on January 06, 2013, 12:06:54 AM
What if I have a totem armor on a creature that can regenerate. If its about to get destroyed and I pay the regenerating cost on the creature does the totem armor trigger and destroyed itself instead or does it get saved? How does this interaction take place?

{troll ascetic} {snake umbra} {day of judgement}

Good question! The short answer is that you get to choose which one happens. You control both replacement effects, and once the first one goes off, the second one has no death to stop from happening, so it sits tight and does nothing.

Quote from the rulings: "6/15/2010   Say you control a permanent enchanted with an Aura that has totem armor, and the enchanted permanent has gained a regeneration shield. The next time it would be destroyed, you choose whether to apply the regeneration effect or the totem armor effect. The other effect is unused and remains, in case the permanent would be destroyed again."

Edit: bah, that's what I get for being all descriptive and getting ruling quotes. That crafty CV swoops in ;)

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Title: Re: Troll ascetic snake umbra wrath
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 06, 2013, 12:20:25 AM
Nah your description was better, I was lazy hehehe
Title: Re: Regenerate, Totem Armor, Destroy
Post by: Jdogtoocool on January 06, 2013, 12:31:53 PM
Both are great answers thanks