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Title: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: Majriti on January 03, 2013, 09:23:50 AM
So, my friend just came to me with what I personally thought to be so retarded, but he said its a tournament rule that my opponant can look through my entire deck before a match, aside from the obvious cocky mentality of "hey this is the combo I'm going to bend u over with" is this stupidity true?
Title: Re: Looking through a deck
Post by: MisterJH on January 03, 2013, 09:26:23 AM
Well ive never heard of it... But i guess it could be... I know they can shuffle all they want but ive never seen nor heard of someone doin this in all seriousness. I allow my friends to mostly because they cant do a damn thing to stop me, but inversely i have never looked through their decks unless they were trading out f them or seeking guidance to stop sucking.
Title: Re: Looking through a deck
Post by: Majriti on January 03, 2013, 09:30:11 AM
Ya I agree with that sorta .poo. and ppl get to know what u play as u play it, but seeing what someone else has in their deck before playing against them, well ruins the whole point of the game and tournenent in general.....
Title: Re: Looking through a deck
Post by: Keyeto on January 03, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
I absolutely think this is false. If they knew your entire deck, it would allow them to compose a sideboard, heck their whole deck, to be able to defeat yours. I think they're trying to pull one over on you.
Title: Re: Looking through a deck
Post by: MisterJH on January 03, 2013, 09:36:17 AM
Im going to start using this
Title: Re: Looking through a deck
Post by: Birdbrain on January 03, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
You can say no. There's no rule for it, so there's no rule to say you can refuse a opponent looking through your deck. Though it really depends on how dimir someone is
Title: Re: Looking through a deck
Post by: scarsabrex on January 03, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
It's not true.
Title: Re: Looking through a deck
Post by: Coffee Vampire on January 03, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
There is nothing in the rule book, or the tournament rule book, saying your opponent can look through your deck when no cards' effect allow him or her to do so. The only person that is able to do that would be the head judge.

RESOLVED
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: Rass on January 03, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
Side note. I never did any of those events but don't you have to have a list of you deck and sideboard. Can they look at that
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: scarsabrex on January 03, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
Quote from: Rass on January 03, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
Side note. I never did any of those events but don't you have to have a list of you deck and sideboard. Can they look at that

Yes you have to have a deck list to present to the organizers to prove your decks legality. No you do not have to show it to your opponent.
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: Kaleo42 on January 03, 2013, 05:23:30 PM
This is not a thing. You can not just look at someones deck just because you want to. That is called cheating. As a player you may look at you OWN sideboard at anytime though.
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: Rass on January 03, 2013, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 03, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
Quote from: Rass on January 03, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
Side note. I never did any of those events but don't you have to have a list of you deck and sideboard. Can they look at that

Yes you have to have a deck list to present to the organizers to prove your decks legality. No you do not have to show it to your opponent.

Thanks.  The only other two things I know is you can take notes(not sure if you have to reveal them) and you sideboard has to stay the same at every game one.
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: Kaleo42 on January 03, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: Rass on January 03, 2013, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 03, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
Quote from: Rass on January 03, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
Side note. I never did any of those events but don't you have to have a list of you deck and sideboard. Can they look at that

Yes you have to have a deck list to present to the organizers to prove your decks legality. No you do not have to show it to your opponent.

Thanks.  The only other two things I know is you can take notes(not sure if you have to reveal them) and you sideboard has to stay the same at every game one.
All notes are public information and may not be coded
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on January 04, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
Quote from: Rass on January 03, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
Side note. I never did any of those events but don't you have to have a list of you deck and sideboard. Can they look at that
The only time your deck list is given to an other player is during top 8 of tourney's like GP's and pro tours, but you also receive ur opponents deck list as well. Once you turn in your deck list you can not change any card in that list. That includes sideboard. If you do change out for a card that's not in your deck list you will be DQ'ed.
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: Tetsomori on January 07, 2013, 06:59:15 PM
Now if {mindslaver} was used on you, they arent allowed to look through your deck. But they are allowed to look through your sideboard, but nothing else besides your hand. It is never ok to have a player cheat. Anytime an opponent says a ruling, call a judge anyway, ask a judge.
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on January 07, 2013, 09:12:04 PM
But if they turn 1: {dark ritual} - {praetor's grasp} they can look through your deck...
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: MisterJH on January 07, 2013, 09:20:30 PM
Or if you distract them by pointing and yelling, then grabbing their deck...
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: MisterJH on January 07, 2013, 10:27:32 PM
{cheatyface} is the man... Bring about 20, pile them all up, put them on the board on turn 2...
Title: Re: Opponent Searching My Deck, Tournament Rules, Legality
Post by: MisterJH on January 07, 2013, 10:28:33 PM
My idea was to hold him behind another card, play the other(legal) card and then slide him out from underneath. Hes already on the firld so he meets all required conditions. Woo