What good standard combos is there?
Tamiyos Ultimate + Infernal plunge + Sac Goblin Arsonist to plunge then play it again, then plunge, and repeat for infinit damage
{gilded lotus} + {archeaomancer} + {ghostly flicker} (add {guttersnipe} or {goblin electromancer})
{gilded lotus} + {zealous conscripts} + {deadeye navigator}
{archeaomancer} + {ghostly flicker} + {guttersnipe}
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 20, 2012, 08:21:53 PM
{gilded lotus} + {archeaomancer} + {ghostly flicker} (add {guttersnipe} or {goblin electromancer})
{gilded lotus} + {zealous conscripts} + {deadeye navigator}
{archeaomancer} + {ghostly flicker} + {guttersnipe}
Would you mind explaining the combos? It's late for me and my brain isn't working right now.
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice} + {Seance} + {Thragtusk} in the grave.
Quote from: Jherrick on December 24, 2012, 02:29:13 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 20, 2012, 08:21:53 PM
{gilded lotus} + {archeaomancer} + {ghostly flicker} (add {guttersnipe} or {goblin electromancer})
{gilded lotus} + {zealous conscripts} + {deadeye navigator}
{archeaomancer} + {ghostly flicker} + {guttersnipe}
Would you mind explaining the combos? It's late for me and my brain isn't working right now.
Sorry for the delay, i just now saw this.
Lotus taps for 3 it costs 2 to flicker zealous who can then untap the lotus. You just gained one {U}. Do that billions of times and you can use all that extra blue to flicker zealous and untap your stuff (and give it haste), take their stuff, flicker deadeye to repair and flicker anyother dude you control. Oh and flicker zealous to untap lotus letting you make any oter kind of mana too.
As for the other two archeaomancer can be flickered with ghosty flicker and return ghostly to your hand. This means you can flicker lotus to pay for the flicker infinitely. Electromancer makes flicker cost less so you cna produce infinite mana and guttersnipe deals infinite damage.
All this is instant speed by the way.
EpEx Storm?
Make lots of tokens using Gather The Townsfolk and stuff, use Battle Hymn to produce mana, use Epic Experiment to fuel a big Burn at the Stake.
Quote from: CbStrad on December 25, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
{Angel of Serenity} and any flickers. Exile ALL the creatures!
Are u aware of the fact that creatures exiled by that angel would return to owner's hand with every single flicker...;)
Quote from: whitedrake on December 25, 2012, 03:53:34 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on December 25, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
{Angel of Serenity} and any flickers. Exile ALL the creatures!
Are u aware of the fact that creatures exiled by that angel would return to owner's hand with every single flicker...;)
Not if the flicker is done on the stack before her ETB resolves
Quote from: whitedrake on December 25, 2012, 03:53:34 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on December 25, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
{Angel of Serenity} and any flickers. Exile ALL the creatures!
It does provide bounce though, albeit inefficient bounce.
Are u aware of the fact that creatures exiled by that angel would return to owner's hand with every single flicker...;)
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on December 25, 2012, 03:53:34 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on December 25, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
{Angel of Serenity} and any flickers. Exile ALL the creatures!
Are u aware of the fact that creatures exiled by that angel would return to owner's hand with every single flicker...;)
Not if the flicker is done on the stack before her ETB resolves
Please describe...:D My brain is wrapped in tons of great christmas food and I possibly do not get ur point Kaleo... How u can by flickering {Angel of Serenity} exile opponent's swarm??? U cast angel... ETB resolves... flicker angel... It is exiled, creatures exiled by angel return to owner's hand... Of course u can wipe ur opponent's battlefield... But not exile all of his creatures... Or I am missing something...:D
Quote from: whitedrake on December 25, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 25, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: whitedrake on December 25, 2012, 03:53:34 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on December 25, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
{Angel of Serenity} and any flickers. Exile ALL the creatures!
Are u aware of the fact that creatures exiled by that angel would return to owner's hand with every single flicker...;)
Not if the flicker is done on the stack before her ETB resolves
Please describe...:D My brain is wrapped in tons of great christmas food and I possibly do not get ur point Kaleo... How u can by flickering {Angel of Serenity} exile opponent's swarm??? U cast angel... ETB resolves... flicker angel... It is exiled, creatures exiled by angel return to owner's hand... Of course u can wipe ur opponent's battlefield... But not exile all of his creatures... Or I am missing something...:D
The trick here is trigger order. You can "return" the exiled creatures to their owners hand before you've actually exiled them... And then you exile them.
-Angel enters
-Trigger stacks
-Choose targets
-Pass priority or add do the stack
-Add flicker effect targeting angel
-Pass priority
-Opponent passes back
-Flicker resolves
-Angel triggers leave the field effect and a new enter the field effect
-leave field effect has no targets
-choose new targets for new ETB
-pass priority
-priority passes back
-new ETB resolves o-ringing the targets under the angel
-old ETB resolves and exiles the targets but has no return clause tied to it.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 26, 2012, 01:18:12 AM
-Angel enters
-Trigger stacks
-Choose targets
-Pass priority or add do the stack
-Add flicker effect targeting angel
-Pass priority
-Opponent passes back
-Flicker resolves
-Angel triggers leave the field effect and a new enter the field effect
-leave field effect has no targets
-choose new targets for new ETB
-pass priority
-priority passes back
-new ETB resolves o-ringing the targets under the angel
-old ETB resolves and exiles the targets but has no return clause tied to it.
Mhmm step by step it gives sense but that means u can do it with any other ETB effect.... :D Great gives me few ideas...:D
Came up in conversation, didn't want to retype everything i said here so bump.
Bump
{Falkenrath Aristocrat} {Fiend Hunter} {Angel of Glory's Rise}
Bump.
Cant seem to find the old izzet combo thread, but this has a detailed explanation of the lotus combo.