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RDW!! ??Fixed Mistake 75 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Hellion Crucible} 20 {Mountain} 22 lands 3 {Hellrider} 4 {Ash Zealot} 3 {Pyreheart Wolf} 3 {Stonewright} 4 {Lightning Mauler} 4 {Stromkirk Noble} 2 {Thundermaw Hellkite} 4 {Vexing Devil} 27 creatures 3 {Mizzium Mortars} 2 {Thunderous Wrath} 4 {Pillar of Flame} 2 {Brimstone Volley} 11 other spells Sideboard 4 {Searing Spear} 2 {Infernal Plunge} 4 {Volcanic Strength} 3 {Slumbering Dragon} 2 {Mark of Mutiny} 15 sideboard cards Notes:

2 at fnm:)

Did you get 2nd w the current deck or when you had stuffy doll in it?

I don't like {Vexing Devil} in this set up.

No  {Hellrider}?

Vexing devil has won me to me many games in this deck

Quote from: MaDeM MaD on December 20, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
No  {Hellrider}?

if only I had it

Drop what for hellrider??

 {Stonewright} probably? {Hellrider} is good.

Quote from: Dudecore on December 20, 2012, 11:23:24 PM
{Stonewright} probably? {Hellrider} is good.

I'm bout to get two

What is this talk around reckless wait?? Someone please inform me it's good use?

Quote from: Zvaughn on December 25, 2012, 07:30:00 PM
What is this talk around reckless wait?? Someone please inform me it's good use?

A simple one drop 1/1 that potentially can be a 3/2 beater by turn two.  Paying {R} for a 3/2 by T2 is awesome.  I love the Waifs in my build.  I feel like I should post my deck with all these RDW decks showing up on here...

Quote from: Silent1236 on December 25, 2012, 07:38:13 PM

Quote from: Zvaughn on December 25, 2012, 07:30:00 PM
What is this talk around reckless wait?? Someone please inform me it's good use?

A simple one drop 1/1 that potentially can be a 3/2 beater by turn two.  Paying {R} for a 3/2 by T2 is awesome.  I love the Waifs in my build.  I feel like I should post my deck with all these RDW decks showing up on here...

I understand that much, but I guess I'd just have to play with it an see cause I see nobles being better?

Guys waif is amazing against control!

Quote from: Zvaughn on December 26, 2012, 08:00:52 AM

Quote from: Silent1236 on December 25, 2012, 07:38:13 PM

Quote from: Zvaughn on December 25, 2012, 07:30:00 PM
What is this talk around reckless wait?? Someone please inform me it's good use?

A simple one drop 1/1 that potentially can be a 3/2 beater by turn two.  Paying {R} for a 3/2 by T2 is awesome.  I love the Waifs in my build.  I feel like I should post my deck with all these RDW decks showing up on here...

I understand that much, but I guess I'd just have to play with it an see cause I see nobles being better?

Yeah, I had to play with them to appreciate them. 

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on December 26, 2012, 10:28:54 AM
Guys waif is amazing against control!

I'm gonna test this!

I don't mean to be a jerk, but what kind of Control Deck is losing to {Reckless Waif}? It's not {Mayor of Avabruck} or anything.

Mayor is dangerous because he buffs humans, if you flip it it creates wolves and buff those wolves.

{Reckless Waif} is a 1/1 vanilla that has an extremely low chance of flipping, and when it does it's a 3/2 vanilla. {Vexing Devil} is better, {Stromkirk Nobel} is better and even {Stonewright} is probably better.

Gonna have to disagree there.  I've used all but the nobles and waif is still my definite pick

Control decks usually don't play until turn 3-4 and even then no creatures are out until 4-5, so being able to flip to 3 damage turn 2 and push out 9 damage before they can answer anything? How is that bad?

Sure control decks can answer it early, but they usually don't

Well I hear complaints about vexing devil but turn two doing 13 damage with 2 of those then miracle thunderous rath turn 2!? I disagree with anything against vex he's always done the job for me

Quote from: Zvaughn on December 26, 2012, 10:08:21 PM
Well I hear complaints about vexing devil but turn two doing 13 damage with 2 of those then miracle thunderous rath turn 2!? I disagree with anything against vex he's always done the job for me

That's uber conditional, but nice. 

Quote from: Mothaelon on December 26, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
Control decks usually don't play until turn 3-4 and even then no creatures are out until 4-5, so being able to flip to 3 damage turn 2 and push out 9 damage before they can answer anything? How is that bad?

Sure control decks can answer it early, but they usually don't

I am not aware of any control deck that plays this way, let alone would go 3 turns without playing a spell. Even Superfriends plays {Thought Scour}, {Pillar of Flames}, {Azorius Charm}, {Think Twice}, {Augur of Bolas}, {Izzet Charm} or something. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'd never recommend {Reckless Waif} in a deck that didnt discourage spell casting (like a deck without {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} or {Huntmaster of the Fells})

Quote from: Zvaughn on December 26, 2012, 10:08:21 PM
Well I hear complaints about vexing devil but turn two doing 13 damage with 2 of those then miracle thunderous rath turn 2!? I disagree with anything against vex he's always done the job for me

That hand happens so rarely that it's impossible to plan around its probability. The reason most players (including myself) don't like {Vexing Devil} is because it puts the choice into the opponents hands. The opponent will always choose what is best for them. Turn 1-3 it works, it is almostly useless afterwards.

Quote from: Silent1236 on December 26, 2012, 10:16:38 PM

Quote from: Zvaughn on December 26, 2012, 10:08:21 PM
Well I hear complaints about vexing devil but turn two doing 13 damage with 2 of those then miracle thunderous rath turn 2!? I disagree with anything against vex he's always done the job for me

That's uber conditional, but nice.

I was stating what happened last Friday.. But vex has never messed me up always a good draw

I can easily say without vexing devil I would have beer made it in fnm so I strongly disagree and I'm not saying that's my "combo" it's just something cool that happened plus putting a 1 drop 4/3 late game works well for my deck.