ðŸ"£Wizards has announced that they have just submitted their app to Apple. I only mention this because iMtG totally kicks its ass! ðŸ'ª
Hey, so THAT'S why they wouldn't audition iMtG!
They're afraid, VERY afraid. ;D
Maybe not afraid, but they certainly missed their own target, they announced at the beginning of the month that it's going out by the end of January. They will be very lucky to have it approved before the DKA release weekend.
I was a little afraid, but I'm not anymore ;)
More bad news there app is in
This is not bad news, the other apps were on the market since forever and it's a good thing. Competition is a good thing.
I had not a chance to have a look yet, is it any good? What's missing vs. iMtG?
At a glance ... Everything I just downloaded it it's about 65mb and does some ironical download once you load the app they only have life counter , deck building card searching, events, articles and players profile I guess this would be the only thing missing from imtg I haven't found mass pic download yet not sure if it's available a nice touch in card search is card info aka when each card was released of a given set
Do they have prices?
The name of the app is mtg toolbox? I can't find it
Quote from: Piotr on February 01, 2012, 08:08:31 AM
Do they have prices?
Nope not yet there is 4 downloads available but all are free
Quote from: Mentonin on February 01, 2012, 08:17:22 AM
The name of the app is mtg toolbox? I can't find it
The exact name is "magic: the gathering toolbox" the app installs as "mtg toolbox"
Quote from: Raven316 on February 01, 2012, 08:27:53 AM
Quote from: Mentonin on February 01, 2012, 08:17:22 AM
The name of the app is mtg toolbox? I can't find it
The exact name is "magic: the gathering toolbox" the app installs as "mtg toolbox"
I found it in the AppStore for my iPhone but I couldn't find it in my iPad AppStore weird??? I installed it on my iPad for now through purchases Although its not the iPad version although I am assuming there will be one
It already has 5 reviews and 5 stars
I see 41 reviews now
Do they have card prices in the database?
Quote from: Piotr on February 01, 2012, 09:30:23 AM
Do they have card prices in the database?
Nope no prices on cards
The life management screen is beautiful, themes are nice, history/log is there, player profiles are nice, but it requieres you to build a deck for them if you want to log their decks, that sucks. Im sticking to iMtg =)
The visual is really good
Downloaded it to try it out. Left a 1 star review. It is utter crap compared to iMTG. I'll be honest I expected it to steal all your ideas and be close enough that I might use both but it is really crap. I mean the colors are pretty and the artwork in the life counter is much more vibrant but that's the only positive. The life counter is terrible. You can show poison counters, and it slits the players screen into life and everything else, do if you only toggle on the poison counter on your side, you have a tiny poison counter toggle and then 3/4 of the side is blank. Even then it's a toggle. Click the poison counter and it toggles it to your life counter spot. Then you have to toggle it back. It looks like they weren't trying to copy iMTG. In fact, it looks like they didn't even know iMTG exists. It looks like they tried to copy SCG app. So you've got iMTG, a fantastic app, then a subpar SCG app, and WoTC who now has a subpar version of the subpar version of iMTG. How could they cock this up so bad? Thank goodness. The only real threat they are is for the idiots who won't try iMTG to realize its better. I mean how did they even get one 5 star review??
Quote from: 4gotAboutDre on February 01, 2012, 04:31:32 PM
.... I mean how did they even get one 5 star review??
Fanboys and Vorthoses.
I've just seen it as well. Really, I was getting ready for some competition, but this... I don't know what to say. I had a look at the Credits and couldn't help but LOL.
Quote from: Piotr on February 01, 2012, 04:44:10 PM
I've just seen it as well. Really, I was getting ready for some competition, but this... I don't know what to say. I had a look at the Credits and couldn't help but LOL.
Hey Piotr, where's my tester credit? XD
I jus noticed that it's version 0.1. It's not even a 1.0 version. Wow! Rush job much?
What I see as MTG Toolbox points in favor(that I think would be a good addition to iMtG):
•Artist, flavor, collector's number;
•Visual, themes;
•Easy visualizing players life total and changing between the players in bigger games (although up to 6 players);
•Commander cast times (suggest a commander damage also), mana counter (good for omnath for example);
•Friends record (i suggest the possibility to link this friends with an iMtG profile, so you can share games records and more) for quick game setup;
•All games history and specific games log (good for recording better what happened in long games. It also includes a log notes system if in tournament mode, very good for the most control-freaks, and cool feature to display);
•Big, intuitive, graphical icons in main screen (not all that special, for what it matters. If your problem is screen space it can be solved like them, with 2 screens (one useless for now, BTW));
•Darker display, less eye aggressive and more similar to magic theme);
•Subtype list instead of searching for subtype, allowing for more specific searches using one more parameter;
•Add to deck button in card view, then you can choose which deck to go;
•Direct link to card search inside the game mode (I also would suggest a rules search).
This is what I remember for now, will update if I remember anything else.
Oh, forget to mention iMtG's points:
•The app;
•The community;
•The community care of the author.
Thank you for an awesome app Piotr!
Quote from: Mentonin on February 01, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
collector's number;
Add to deck button in card view, then you can choose which deck to go;
We have that already.
Quote from: Piotr on February 01, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: Mentonin on February 01, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
collector's number;
Add to deck button in card view, then you can choose which deck to go;
We have that already.
oh yeah, app so good that I forgot one of its functions! I am mostly in the forum nowadays, not so much deck building. Good job then Piotr. But the we have it already doesn't include collectors number, does it?
I know English is a second language for you and I'm not trying to poke fun or anything at you. But usually when people say f this or f that it's their way of not saying the bad word fu@k. That's all first reading it made me giggle
Hope that makes sense
Quote from: Rass on February 01, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
I know English is a second language for you and I'm not trying to poke fun or anything at you. But usually when people say f this or f that it's their way of not saying the bad word fu@k. That's all first reading it made me giggle
Hope that makes sense
Oh, surely, it was just bad typing. The F thing is well known world wide, it's just my iPad that didn't realize I typed an o.
Lol yea and my childish humor
Their app, besides not having any advanced features and being basic in general if compared to iMtG, it's damn BUGGY in the few features it has. When I click in add event to calendar and confirm that I want to do it in a pop up message, it says it was removed from calendar instead and nothing happens in calendar. If I highlight an event, it's ok, then I try to remove from highlight it says it was highlighted. And keeps highlighted. I can't un-highlight neither add automatically in my calendar. So the events is rather useless. Also the 12 new events it says it has, they don't wear off when I check them
There is a home button almost everywhere. Even in homepage...
Speaking of the devil, check today's feature article:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Default.aspx
They're really pushing that thing!
Wouldn't you of you were them
I wouldn't. With the beta version they released, no. I would concentrate on polishing the app first, then when it's mature, start proper advertising and all.
Oh, Mentonin, the collectors number is in grey just below card image in card view.
Won't let me download their app cuz my ancient iPhone is almost 1 year old....ancient right????? Does anyone know how to update the iOS? If it is even possible...
You do it via iTunes.
Quote from: Piotr on February 02, 2012, 06:46:02 AM
I wouldn't. With the beta version they released, no. I would concentrate on polishing the app first, then when it's mature, start proper advertising and all.
Part of me thinks they're slow-rolling it out to create more buzz with new features after the initial buzz wears off. I mean, seriously, you can't put THAT many people on a project like this only to end up with what they have now. They aren't doing anything that only they could do: DCI info, Planeswalker Points, prizing, merch, stuff like that. I'm not going to tell them, mind you. ;)
If they are not working on some sort of DotP of MTGO game-style app, they are fools. FOOLS I TELL YOU!
But, then it probably wouldn't be in a toolbox, it would be it's own thing.
Quote from: BlackJester on February 02, 2012, 10:55:24 AMI mean, seriously, you can't put THAT many people on a project like this only to end up with what they have now.
Obviously you never worked in a big corporation ;) I still am, for the next two months, so I'm hardly surprised.
Quote from: Piotr on February 02, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 02, 2012, 10:55:24 AMI mean, seriously, you can't put THAT many people on a project like this only to end up with what they have now.
Obviously you never worked in a big corporation ;) I still am, for the next two months, so I'm hardly surprised.
Truth is, I'm not really surprised... just disappointed. They needed fewer, more skilled/passionate people on this project. Less fluff, more stuff!
Edit: you should see where I'm "broadcasting" from right now. ;)
Is decked app removed from AppStore ? I just got an update notification I didn't do it but the description of the app and it's description page are blank only thing on there is the ratings can somebody go to app store to see if it's the same for them or is it just a glitz
Quote from: Raven316 on February 02, 2012, 04:42:27 PM
Is decked app removed from AppStore ? I just got an update notification I didn't do it but the description of the app and it's description page are blank only thing on there is the ratings can somebody go to app store to see if it's the same for them or is it just a glitz
I see Decked Builder for 3.99 and the lite version for free. This is the app that has the five colors in dots made in a circle as the image.
TJ has Dark Ascension in the review with Apple and after that he is releasing the crippled version. Maybe DA update is already in the store.
Do you know if Apple has pulled any M:tG apps yet?
Not that I know of. I believe Apple is a good company and not easily bowing to demands of trademark trolls.
Quote from: Piotr on February 03, 2012, 11:57:32 AM
TJ has Dark Ascension in the review with Apple and after that he is releasing the crippled version. Maybe DA update is already in the store.
What is he going to do? Downgrade pics essentially?
Not sure, he told me he will remove deck building feature completely.
Quote from: Piotr on February 03, 2012, 02:01:32 PM
Not sure, he told me he will remove deck building feature completely.
That is his app it will become useless after that
Quote from: Piotr on February 03, 2012, 02:01:32 PM
Not sure, he told me he will remove deck building feature completely.
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Quote from: Piotr on February 03, 2012, 02:01:32 PM
Not sure, he told me he will remove deck building feature completely.
I actually payed money for the ability to make multiple decks. A lot of us did, what happens once it's gone??
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 03, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: Piotr on February 03, 2012, 02:01:32 PM
Not sure, he told me he will remove deck building feature completely.
I actually payed money for the ability to make multiple decks. A lot of us did, what happens once it's gone??
Bye bye money...
I think he will post a proper info to stop people from upgrading. I would, but I have no plans to cripple iMtG in this way.
Quote from: Piotr on February 03, 2012, 04:17:01 PM
I think he will post a proper info to stop people from upgrading. I would, but I have no plans to cripple iMtG in this way.
That's what I'll do no more upgrades however the app will be almost useless in 3 months when the new set will come out the proper solutiOn would be to enable us to update database internally like deck builder used to do... Now that I think about it Piotr cant u do that? Also Piotr what's decked app email address ?
Quote from: Piotr on February 03, 2012, 04:17:01 PM
I think he will post a proper info to stop people from upgrading. I would, but I have no plans to cripple iMtG in this way.
Oops, sorry, I thought you were talking about iMtG
I'm so disappointed in WotC for their actions. I'll continue to support iMtG and I have made my feelings clear in the ratings for Toolbox. Good luck Piotr.
Spread the word to all the WotC forms if they bring a fight to use we need to bring a fight to them!!!!!! :)
Just saw this so in the future for toolbox if you want to unlock future sets to use in deck building it will be .99â,¬ unless u wait for 2 sets then it's free I believe
Just saw this so in the future for toolbox if you want to unlock future sets to use in deck building it will be .99â,¬ unless u wait for 2 sets then it's free I believe
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/180a
Yep WotC knows how to milk the money from people that's why I stopped playing magic when they took over several years ago. Also why I stopped buy dungeon and dragon stuff. This puts the second strike for me to keep playing magic if imtg closes I think that will be strike three and I'm out. I'll just spend my money I used on mtg and go back to buying Mayfair games.
Quote from: Rass on February 04, 2012, 05:38:25 PM
Yep WotC knows how to milk the money from people that's why I stopped playing magic when they took over several years ago. Also why I stopped buy dungeon and dragon stuff. This puts the second strike for me to keep playing magic if imtg closes I think that will be strike three and I'm out. I'll just spend my money I used on mtg and go back to buying Mayfair games.
Wait, WotC hasn't always owned M:tG?!?!? î‹
If I remember correctly around the mid 90's they took over
Who was it before?
I guess I was wrong WotC always owned mtg. But it seemed to change after ice age or an expansion or two later that it seemed watered down and they were just throwing expansion after expansion. They seemed to take away what made each color unique and give it to each other color.
Big toy company Hasbro bought up WotC.
Quote from: Rass on February 05, 2012, 10:36:02 AM
I guess I was wrong WotC always owned mtg. But it seemed to change after ice age or an expansion or two later that it seemed watered down and they were just throwing expansion after expansion. They seemed to take away what made each color unique and give it to each other color.
as I see the new cards are seemingly back to being more color separated then some years ago
It's something called "color-bleed", and R&D are very careful with how they do it.
Quote from: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 03:20:54 PM
It's something called "color-bleed", and R&D are very careful with how they do it.
Yea but I think when hasbro took over they didn't try that hard. They just wanted to mass print product to make more profit
Quote from: Rass on February 05, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 05, 2012, 03:20:54 PM
It's something called "color-bleed", and R&D are very careful with how they do it.
Yea but I think when hasbro took over they didn't try that hard. They just wanted to mass print product to make more profit
So, you think R&D aren't trying as hard to make good cards anymore? You don't think a good strategy to get people to buy more cards is to make the game more fun? ???
I think they are now but back in the late 90's I don't think they put much effort.
I think they took it as a business to make as much money as they could as quick as possible. Content started to dwindle. It didn't seem as fun it seemed they were just trying to mass market it.
Who or what is R&D?
Research & Development. Although, with MtG, design and development would be a better name. Pity D&D was already taken. XD
They are the ones making the cards we love.
And if I didn't think it was fun I wouldn't have came back to playing again. This is an expensive hobby. I'm sure I could find better things to waste my money on
I liked the stats they had for a deck better and it offering a suggestion for land ratios is a nice idea but I haven't tested it to see how good it is yet.
I'm obviously not switching from iMtG but I'll run this thing through its paces and tell you what I like and don't like.
My main issue with toolbox is that it won't run on my older software.. I tried downloading it and it said I need iOS 4.3+. This won't happen for me because I only have a 2nd gen iPod. Wizards need to seriously rethink their app...
Quote from: Rass on February 05, 2012, 09:47:47 AM
If I remember correctly around the mid 90's they took over
Playing around with "Foolbox", I find that it does run very slowly, but there are some nifty features:
Tracking life total changes - good for tourneys
Tracking other game events - Times commander was cast, storm count, but honestly these can be done with dice or something.
Labeling the commander in a commander deck and possibly decking the legality of cards against it. Again, not something smart players need, but sort of handy
In the search, only shows one instance of each cardname. Then in cardview it shows all sets in which is was printed. If I'm adding cards to build a deck, it usually doesn't matter what set my {Forest} was printed in. There's a trade-of between the functional card, and the physical card itself. With an app like iMtG I'm not sure what the most convenient way to represent cards would be since it uses both the functional cards for deck building and discussion, and the physical cards for databasing and pricing.
I'm not saying that Foolbox is a fine piece of work, though. Like a ditzy blonde it's pretty but slow and doesn't help me.
The features you picked are on my TODO or on its way to it. I also just added the Lucky button to the CardView, how did we missed this one? ;)
Quote from: Piotr on February 09, 2012, 12:14:43 PM
The features you picked are on my TODO or on its way to it. I also just added the Lucky button to the CardView, how did we missed this one? ;)
I know you're on top of things. :)
Perhaps a addon of a tournament tally would be a nice addition. My friends and I do a box draft tournament every now and then and always trying to find the paper we are using to keep track of the scores aka wins and who beat who can the rankings of everyone to be able to see who gets first pick on the rares .