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Title: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Missingkirby34 on December 12, 2012, 11:48:52 PM
with cards like  {Conjurer's Closet} How exactly do they work? Do you take the card from your graveyard? My friend and I are both stumped on this one
Title: Re: Conjurers closet
Post by: Coffee Vampire on December 12, 2012, 11:51:10 PM
So when the closet is out, you can choose any creature you control (NOT one in your graveyard) and exile it. To exile something means to "remove from the game". Then, at your end step (the step you take when you end your turn), the creature is put out of exile and back onto the battlefield.

Does that clear things up?

RESOLVED
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Missingkirby34 on December 12, 2012, 11:55:27 PM
Yes thank you so much!!!
Title: Re: Conjurers closet
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 12, 2012, 11:59:17 PM
Creatures are only creatures on the battlefield. Everywhere else they are cards with the specification of being a creature card. You do not "control" cards not in play, you "own" cards.

So this effect is asking you to pick a creature you control at the beginning of your end step (when you say you are done casting sorceries and doing other main phase stuffs) then you pass priority giving your opponent a chance to do something about or before the closet finishes it's thing. If they have no response or finish what they are gunna do and your origionally target creature is still there and hasnt left at any point since you chose it then remove it from play and put it back in play as a brand new object. Creatures like {thragtusk} love this because it triggers it's leave the field and it's enter the field effects.
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Deathstorm on December 13, 2012, 08:44:48 AM
What's happens to a token that is exiled does it come back and a creature with x in its casting cost {primordial hydra} would it die
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Coffee Vampire on December 13, 2012, 08:50:10 AM
Whenever a token changes zones, it is removed from the game as a state-based action. It would not come back.

Whenever a nontoken creature changes zones, it is a new object with no memory of its former self. So a creature with toughness x will come back as a 0/0 and will die as a state-based action when it enters the battlefield.
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Keyeto on December 13, 2012, 08:50:54 AM
Quote from: Deathstorm on December 13, 2012, 08:44:48 AM
What's happens to a token that is exiled does it come back and a creature with x in its casting cost {primordial hydra} would it die
The token will cease to exist shortly after being exiled, and counters will be removed from the creature as well, so cases like the hydra will die.

CV beat me to it :(
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Deathstorm on December 13, 2012, 08:58:05 AM
Thanks that what I thought
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: ducttapetitan on December 17, 2012, 05:02:09 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on December 13, 2012, 08:50:10 AM
Whenever a token changes zones, it is removed from the game as a state-based action. It would not come back.

Whenever a nontoken creature changes zones, it is a new object with no memory of its former self. So a creature with toughness x will come back as a 0/0 and will die as a state-based action when it enters the battlefield.

Wouldn't  {Cryptborn Horror} work with  {Conjurer's Closet}?
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Coffee Vampire on December 17, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
Yes. If you damage your opponent before he enters then he enters with +1/+1 counters.
Title: Re: Conjurer's Closet
Post by: Jroch314 on December 17, 2012, 06:19:33 PM
Works great with any creature that has Enter the Battlefield or Leave the Battlefield triggers.