This is an interesting question for me. There are cards that say something along the lines of 'target creature becomes blocked.' How would this affect trample? Does it block 100% of damage? Or does it block 0 damage but simply counts as the creature being blocked(which would elimate all damage unless the creature has trample)? Either way seems to fit the text.
If a creature with trample is blocked, it assigns all damage above the toughness of the blocker to the player or plainswalker it is attacking. In this case, the blocker's toughness is zero since there is no blocker. So yes, all damage would go through if a creature with trample is blocked by an instant.
Example: {Curtain of Light}
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Alright cool!
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on December 11, 2012, 10:03:55 PM
If a creature with trample is blocked, it assigns all damage above the toughness of the blocker to the player or plainswalker it is attacking. In this case, the blocker's toughness is zero since there is no blocker. So yes, all damage would go through if a creature with trample is blocked by an instant.
Example: {Curtain of Light}
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I do believe it assigns lethal damage, not the toughness of the blocker. For instance a 10/10 trample deathtouch blocked by a 5/5 would only assign 1 damage to the blocker and 9 would trample over.
Quote from: CbStrad on December 12, 2012, 07:47:51 AM
Quote from: Jroch314 on December 12, 2012, 06:56:25 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on December 11, 2012, 10:03:55 PM
If a creature with trample is blocked, it assigns all damage above the toughness of the blocker to the player or plainswalker it is attacking. In this case, the blocker's toughness is zero since there is no blocker. So yes, all damage would go through if a creature with trample is blocked by an instant.
Example: {Curtain of Light}
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I do believe it assigns lethal damage, not the toughness of the blocker. For instance a 10/10 trample deathtouch blocked by a 5/5 would only assign 1 damage to the blocker and 9 would trample over.
It's truth. Deathtouch and Trample work amazingly well together
Seriously? 9 tramples over because of deathtouch? That doesn't even make sense.
Straight from gatheringmagic.com, regarding 702.2 (deathtouch) under "other notes".
"If an attacking creature with deathtouch and trample becomes blocked, the attacking creature first assigns damage to the creature(s) blocking it. Once all those blocking creatures are assigned lethal damage, any remaining damage is assigned as its controller chooses among those blocking creatures and the player or planeswalker the creature is attacking. However, since the creature has deathtouch, assigning even 1 damage to a creature is considered to be lethal damage.
Example: Yavimaya Wurm (a 6/4 creature with trample) is equipped with Gorgon Flail (an Equipment that grants the equipped creature +1/+1 and deathtouch). It attacks a player and is blocked by Siege Mastodon (a 3/5 creature). Yavimaya Wurm must assign at least 1 damage to the Mastodon. Its remaining damage may be assigned as its controller chooses between the Mastodon and the defending player. Notably, the Wurm may assign 1 damage to the Mastodon and 6 damage to the defending player. After that damage is dealt to the Mastodon, the Mastodon will be destroyed."
Wherever that rule came from, it still doesn't make sense. It was my understanding that combat damage resolves all at once, it doesn't make sense that just cause ur creature has deathtouch and trample you get to "decide" to only deal 1 to the creature blocking it and "decide" to let the rest trample over. What stoner thought that one up? That's as dumb as stackable exalted. Maybe even more dumb cause it makes no sense at all.
Haha that was funny to read. Yeah magic is a game that does not always make logical sense ;)
You only have to assign one point because that's all it's gonna take to kill the creature. It's treated like a one hit knockout and the rest of the damage powers through. It's fine. Just like a {Winged Coatl} is all it takes to kill {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}, a {Worldspine Wurm} with deathtouch only has tag a {Tree of Redemption} once for it to shrivel up and die.
Nice analogy testset. I still don't like it though. But, I still don't like the idea of stackable exalted either, and look where that got me lol. Great explanation regardless of how strongly I disagree with it.
Oh, shouldve kept reading.. I was wrong, but its still a poopy rule.. :(
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-Coffee Vampire
Quote from: MisterJH on December 12, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
Oh, shouldve kept reading.. I was wrong, but its still a poopy rule.. :(
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-Coffee Vampire
Should be replaced with crazy words. Like shiny or speckled. That would be awesome. Or banana.
I want to censor, not change the meaning of posts. That would be rude. ;)
Its not exactly a banana rule Jroch... Not exactly