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Title: It's that time of year....
Post by: Wackaman9001 on December 07, 2012, 11:47:25 AM
FINALS!! The bane of students age 14-24! What classes are y'all worried about? I personally am worried about a cal 1 exam today
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Quackmaster5 on December 07, 2012, 12:19:49 PM
Graduate school. History of Mathematics. I'm a god damn math teacher, meaning, I always sucked at history. Now you combine the two together.

MIND BLOWN! And not for good reasons.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Juggernaut9060 on December 07, 2012, 01:05:53 PM
Engineering major. So I am worried about all of them.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Empathie on December 07, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
Genetics major; worried about mbio and cell bio
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Wackaman9001 on December 07, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Just finished my feared finals, only easy classes now :) can't wait to sleep in my own bed!
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Kerebrus on December 07, 2012, 03:31:06 PM
I don't take finals, I'm a jewelry/Metalsmithing major...but I do have critiques that I have to bust my a$$ for
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Danielkix on December 07, 2012, 03:41:27 PM
Community college to transfer for psychology. Psychology of religion and an astronomy final next week.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 07, 2012, 04:40:42 PM
I'm gonna homeschool my girls.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Dmreiss on December 07, 2012, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on December 07, 2012, 12:19:49 PM
Graduate school. History of Mathematics. I'm a god damn math teacher, meaning, I always sucked at history. Now you combine the two together.

MIND BLOWN! And not for good reasons.

I teach 8th and 9th grade math.  What grade do you teach?
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Thorn on December 08, 2012, 09:33:01 PM
First year in HS and I'm freaking out about every single final.
(I was homeschooled up until this year so these will be my first finals ever *gasp*)
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Silent1236 on December 08, 2012, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: Thorn on December 08, 2012, 09:33:01 PM
First year in HS and I'm freaking out about every single final.
(I was homeschooled up until this year so these will be my first finals ever *gasp*)

They aren't terrible.  Unless youre like my brother.  Then you'll fall asleep while taking the final, get woken up by the teacher, and pop your head up with the test stuck to your face via drool.  He did well in school ::)
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: ducttapetitan on December 09, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
Fricken Spanish😫
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Thorn on December 09, 2012, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 07, 2012, 04:40:42 PM
I'm gonna homeschool my girls.
Ok girls this is a mana. Let's all repeat after daddy, "Mana".
Seriously that's good for you. It takes a lot of hard work but being homeschooled is a benefit.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 08:01:50 AM
Quote from: Thorn on December 09, 2012, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 07, 2012, 04:40:42 PM
I'm gonna homeschool my girls.
Ok girls this is a mana. Let's all repeat after daddy, "Mana".
Seriously that's good for you. It takes a lot of hard work but being homeschooled is a benefit.
Why do you say so? I know little about how it works but why do you think it's better than other kinds of schooling?
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Thorn on December 09, 2012, 08:06:35 AM
It is not necessarily better but it gives kids a chance to get to know their parents better and have a closer relationship. It is also a much more direct form if learning. Like I said, I was homeschooled (I got to high school now) for the first 13 years of my life.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
I don't see it as hard work, it's a lot of fun. It is better than regular school for many reasons, if you want to research the subject (quite interesting) I would start on Wikipedia.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
I don't see it as hard work, it's a lot of fun. It is better than regular school for many reasons, if you want to research the subject (quite interesting) I would start on Wikipedia.
Having just read the Wikipedia article on it, it seems like a very interesting idea. The one question I had after reading- do you think that by homeschooling a child, it can promote them to be very introverted and decrease their skills at social interaction as they aren't coming in to contact with many people their own age daily?
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: ducttapetitan on December 09, 2012, 10:31:52 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
I don't see it as hard work, it's a lot of fun. It is better than regular school for many reasons, if you want to research the subject (quite interesting) I would start on Wikipedia.

Homeschooling is awesome
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Thorn on December 09, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
I don't see it as hard work, it's a lot of fun. It is better than regular school for many reasons, if you want to research the subject (quite interesting) I would start on Wikipedia.
Having just read the Wikipedia article on it, it seems like a very interesting idea. The one question I had after reading- do you think that by homeschooling a child, it can promote them to be very introverted and decrease their skills at social interaction as they aren't coming in to contact with many people their own age daily?
Not really. Although homeschooled children may be slightly socially awkward they will be able to fit in and as long as they play sports or something so they are not completely isolated social issues should not be a huge problem.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: ducttapetitan on December 09, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: Thorn on December 09, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
I don't see it as hard work, it's a lot of fun. It is better than regular school for many reasons, if you want to research the subject (quite interesting) I would start on Wikipedia.
Having just read the Wikipedia article on it, it seems like a very interesting idea. The one question I had after reading- do you think that by homeschooling a child, it can promote them to be very introverted and decrease their skills at social interaction as they aren't coming in to contact with many people their own age daily?
Not really. Although homeschooled children may be slightly socially awkward they will be able to fit in and as long as they play sports or something so they are not completely isolated social issues should not be a huge problem.

If they play magic the gathering they will have friends
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 12:27:02 PM
Quote from: ducttapetitan on December 09, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: Thorn on December 09, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
I don't see it as hard work, it's a lot of fun. It is better than regular school for many reasons, if you want to research the subject (quite interesting) I would start on Wikipedia.
Having just read the Wikipedia article on it, it seems like a very interesting idea. The one question I had after reading- do you think that by homeschooling a child, it can promote them to be very introverted and decrease their skills at social interaction as they aren't coming in to contact with many people their own age daily?
Not really. Although homeschooled children may be slightly socially awkward they will be able to fit in and as long as they play sports or something so they are not completely isolated social issues should not be a huge problem.

If they play magic the gathering they will have friends
It really becomes a budget issue. I have known many kids who are home schooled under the principle of not exposing the children to bad influences or allowing them to become a part of the "system" and they end up awkward. This is because the parents could properly fund an educational lifestyle and didnt associate themselves with good influences and examples for their children.

On the flip side i have known very happy, social, intellengent, and polite kids who are homeschoolled but their parents had te means to provide an eduactional lifestyle and most of all set an example by how ad with who they communicated with.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: ducttapetitan on December 09, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 12:27:02 PM
Quote from: ducttapetitan on December 09, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: Thorn on December 09, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
I don't see it as hard work, it's a lot of fun. It is better than regular school for many reasons, if you want to research the subject (quite interesting) I would start on Wikipedia.
Having just read the Wikipedia article on it, it seems like a very interesting idea. The one question I had after reading- do you think that by homeschooling a child, it can promote them to be very introverted and decrease their skills at social interaction as they aren't coming in to contact with many people their own age daily?
Not really. Although homeschooled children may be slightly socially awkward they will be able to fit in and as long as they play sports or something so they are not completely isolated social issues should not be a huge problem.

If they play magic the gathering they will have friends
It really becomes a budget issue. I have known many kids who are home schooled under the principle of not exposing the children to bad influences or allowing them to become a part of the "system" and they end up awkward. This is because the parents could properly fund an educational lifestyle and didnt associate themselves with good influences and examples for their children.

On the flip side i have known very happy, social, intellengent, and polite kids who are homeschoolled but their parents had te means to provide an eduactional lifestyle and most of all set an example by how ad with who they communicated with.

Keep in mind that there are many groups and coops homeschoolers can participate in and get their fill of socializing. It's not like they are shut up in a house. (I never was). They can also participate in more extracurricular activities that a normal school schedual would not allow.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:06:53 PM
Yes, socialising is never a problem unless you do it for religious-like reasons. We do it because we can teach our children much better than any school could.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Wackaman9001 on December 09, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
Though I support the homeschool argument, I still think that high school should be done in the school, not at home, but that is my opinion
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:06:53 PM
Yes, socialising is never a problem unless you do it for religious-like reasons. We do it because we can teach our children much better than any school could.
Interesting- do you believe this about schools in general or just the schools around where you live?
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:34:39 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on December 09, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
Though I support the homeschool argument, I still think that high school should be done in the school, not at home, but that is my opinion

Fair enough, my opinion is that high school is a waste of time for most people, i.e. they should specialise earlier.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:06:53 PMWe do (homeschooling) because we can teach our children much better than any school could.
Interesting- do you believe this about schools in general or just the schools around where you live?

In general. To teach mastery to someone you have to know them. No school can know a child better than their parent.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:06:53 PMWe do (homeschooling) because we can teach our children much better than any school could.
Interesting- do you believe this about schools in general or just the schools around where you live?

In general. To teach mastery to someone you have to know them. No school can know a child better than their parent.
I would add a "should" to this statement. I've been teaching swim lessons for about 7 years and in that time their have been multiple children i knew better than their parents knew them. As i got older i tried to bridge that gap whenever possible, but some parents just dont get what is means to raise a child.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Xaol on December 09, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 01:06:53 PMWe do (homeschooling) because we can teach our children much better than any school could.
Interesting- do you believe this about schools in general or just the schools around where you live?

In general. To teach mastery to someone you have to know them. No school can know a child better than their parent.
I would add a "should" to this statement. I've been teaching swim lessons for about 7 years and in that time their have been multiple children i knew better than their parents knew them. As i got older i tried to bridge that gap whenever possible, but some parents just dont get what is means to raise a child.

As they say, cool story bro ;)

Seriously though, would you tell me that you knew those kids better than their parents in every important skill set? Like, maths, physics or economics? How old are we talking?
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: #noided on December 09, 2012, 03:50:59 PM
Public schools suck. There's too many idiots teaching in our school systems. I wouldn't want my kids going to a public school if I could help it.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
Quote from: Gummuh on December 09, 2012, 03:50:59 PM
Public schools suck. There's too many idiots teaching in our school systems.

One idiot is enough, unfortunately. You can have the greatest ever swimming teacher but if the teacher of your natural-strength-skill sucks, you're screwed.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: cltrn81 on December 09, 2012, 04:22:32 PM
I have a 60 page business plan due for my capstone course in graduate school.  My other class is just a regular final exam.....it's a quality in business class....pretty easy....that is why I saved it to go with the capstone course.  Here in two weeks I can put MBA after my name ;)
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 03:48:04 PM

As they say, cool story bro ;)

Seriously though, would you tell me that you knew those kids better than their parents in every important skill set? Like, maths, physics or economics? How old are we talking?
The ones im referring to were ages 7-14 and i may not have known wht they did on every vacation they'd had, but what i did know was how they felt about all aspects of life in the time I knew/ know them. Unfortunately many of the kids I end up working with for extended periods have parents with busy lives dont set aside the time to put all their focus on their child, their always on the job, always answering the phone.

As for other aspects, yes. I teach through understanding. I encorperate physics, mathmatics, self-help, time budgeting, biology, and in some cases history and communication skills into my lessons. I dont believe one can truly learn a single topic, it has to be tied into other aspects of their knowledge in order to stick in their memory and for them to be able to think and grow on their own. I know many things i say to them are only half understood in their tre depth, but i also know every time i referance a past statement of mine i am instilling that memory and understanding that can eventually be reflected upon on their own time.

Now that i am really thinking about this i'm remembering how often i get 3yr olds in my classes that i understand how to cummunicate with better than their parents. Few parents seem to uderstand learning styles outside of their own and react to their child's actions in counter productive ways just because they dont know any better. Something simple as never using the word "but" or similar mood killers during construcive criticism. No matter wht you say to a child, the moment they hear but, however, or a deep breathed pause they internailze that the previous statement didnt really matter. I explained that to a group of parents in a parent child class i subbed for and later that month i checked back in and they had made leaps and bounds in and out of the pool and thanked me, i could only thank them cause i knew this was one group i wouldnt have to worry about when they come to the pool deck.

It is true ill (hopefully) never know their past better than the parents, but all to often i know their present far better than the parents. To be fair however my first statement is only about like 2% of the kids ive worked with, but thats still to much in my eyes.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 05:44:18 PMTo be fair however my first statement is only about like 2% of the kids ive worked with, but thats still to much in my eyes.

This. IMHO, homeschooling is simply better system, statistics-wise. I'm not arguing that you can find plenty examples which would turn into disasters if normal homeschooling was done instead of school. Mind you, my particular case has nothing to do with your examples, I can bet good part of my limb on it ;)
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: Piotr on December 09, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 09, 2012, 05:44:18 PMTo be fair however my first statement is only about like 2% of the kids ive worked with, but thats still to much in my eyes.

This. IMHO, homeschooling is simply better system, statistics-wise. I'm not arguing that you can find plenty examples which would turn into disasters if normal homeschooling was done instead of school. Mind you, my particular case has nothing to do with your examples, I can bet good part of my limb on it ;)
Never argued against it, just wanted to shed light on what tends to cause that drastic difference between successfully and unsuccessfully homeschooled children. Of what little i know of you, i have no doubt in your ability to do it right, i just doubt most people here know much on the subject beyond what they've seen in their own experience.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Rass on December 09, 2012, 07:27:16 PM
The only thing about home school I can say. I suggest you get them into activities or play dates with other children their age. I met a kid who was home schooled in high school and he had problems dealing with others.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Jroch314 on December 09, 2012, 10:27:23 PM
I was never homeschooled and didn't know many people that were homeschooled. I did however have a blast in high school. Went to a very small school so there really wasn't a lot of bullying or anything. In fact EVERY person in my playgroup I went to high school with lol. Still friends, and still hang out a couple times a week, still watch wwe raw every monday followed by magic until the wee hours of the morning. 6 years out of high school and still going strong. They've helped me thru everything imaginable and some things unimaginable. Wouldn't trade that for the world. But to each his own.
Title: Re: It's that time of year....
Post by: Piotr on December 10, 2012, 05:37:36 AM
The smaller the school the better.