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Title: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 07:31:17 PM
What are ways to get niv-mizzet, Dracogenious in play without gumming up the works besides the {izzet guildmage} + {training grounds} + {manamorphose} combo?
And what are some combos with him? Promise after this ill get more familiar with all the cards
Modern format
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Wally on December 05, 2012, 08:33:01 PM
I drop him with my infinite mana combo deck, and then burn the opponent to death with his ability as soon as I can :)

{Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius}
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Deathseide on December 05, 2012, 09:07:08 PM
As to how to get  {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} out very easily is to have a one mana creature with a sac ability and attach {deathrender} to it, sac the creature for the effect and drop the dracogenius into play with the {deathrender}'s ability.
Then attach a {basilisk collar} onto niv.
That way you not only draw cards, but also gain life, and deal with most creatures your opponant has.
Embed the {manamorphose} into an {isochron scepter} and have a modern equivalent of the {Karn, silver golem}, {voltaic construct}, {Thran dynamo} combo to be able to use the scepter infinitely.
This will very likely blindside your opponent, especially if you play this in a mono color deck with no red or blue lands or other cards.

EDIT: and for more fun with the scepter combo, toss in the original  {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
You don't draw if he damages a creature. The card specifically says player

What about making a wizard tribal deck and using {call of the kindered}? And putting {niv-mizzet dracogenious} on top of your deck with {brain storm}?
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Deathseide on December 05, 2012, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
You don't draw if he damages a creature. The card specifically says player

What about making a wizard tribal deck and using {call of the kindered}? And putting {niv-mizzet dracogenious} on top of your deck with {brain storm}?
Creature or player for damage.
The collar gains you life either way, card draw against a player, and creature removal from deathtouch.
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Birdbrain on December 06, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 05, 2012, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
You don't draw if he damages a creature. The card specifically says player

What about making a wizard tribal deck and using {call of the kindered}? And putting {niv-mizzet dracogenious} on top of your deck with {brain storm}?
Creature or player for damage.
The collar gains you life either way, card draw against a player, and creature removal from deathtouch.
Read the first ability closely
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Rigeld on December 06, 2012, 08:12:16 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 06, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 05, 2012, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
You don't draw if he damages a creature. The card specifically says player

What about making a wizard tribal deck and using {call of the kindered}? And putting {niv-mizzet dracogenious} on top of your deck with {brain storm}?
Creature or player for damage.
The collar gains you life either way, card draw against a player, and creature removal from deathtouch.
Read the first ability closely
Right. He doesn't draw if pokes a creature. He still gets life and a dead creature. If you read his post, he said that.
"Creature or player" can be targeted "for damage"
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: CajunJynx on December 06, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 06, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 05, 2012, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
You don't draw if he damages a creature. The card specifically says player

What about making a wizard tribal deck and using {call of the kindered}? And putting {niv-mizzet dracogenious} on top of your deck with {brain storm}?
Creature or player for damage.
The collar gains you life either way, card draw against a player, and creature removal from deathtouch.
Read the first ability closely
Flying?
Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: MarduArrow on December 06, 2012, 05:32:27 PM
Quote from: CajunJynx on December 06, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 06, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 05, 2012, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
You don't draw if he damages a creature. The card specifically says player

What about making a wizard tribal deck and using {call of the kindered}? And putting {niv-mizzet dracogenious} on top of your deck with {brain storm}?
Creature or player for damage.
The collar gains you life either way, card draw against a player, and creature removal from deathtouch.
Read the first ability closely
Flying?

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Title: Re: Niv-mizzet
Post by: Mikefrompluto on December 06, 2012, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: CajunJynx on December 06, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 06, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 05, 2012, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 05, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
You don't draw if he damages a creature. The card specifically says player

What about making a wizard tribal deck and using {call of the kindered}? And putting {niv-mizzet dracogenious} on top of your deck with {brain storm}?
Creature or player for damage.
The collar gains you life either way, card draw against a player, and creature removal from deathtouch.
Read the first ability closely
Flying?

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