2 {Sunpetal Grove}
3 {Plains}
4 {Mountain}
2 {Clifftop Retreat}
5 {Forest}
2 {Rootbound Crag}
4 {Temple Garden}
2 {Kessig Wolf Run}
24 lands
2 {Thragtusk}
3 {Angel of Serenity}
3 {Restoration Angel}
4 {Loxodon Smiter}
2 {Thundermaw Hellkite}
4 {Avacyn's Pilgrim}
4 {Huntmaster of the Fells}
22 creatures
2 {Garruk Relentless}
4 {Farseek}
4{Selesnya Charm}
4 {Bonfire of the Damned}
14 other spells
Sideboard
2 {Rest in Peace}
1 {Zealous Conscripts}
3 {Searing Spear}
4 {Pillar of Flame}
2 {Slayers' Stronghold}
1 {Angel of Serenity}
2 {Gisela, Blade of Goldnight}
15 Card Sideboard
Notes:
Still working on this... Suggestions?
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The charms are interexchangable based on what deck i am up against. What are your guys thoughts and/or opinions? I just threw this together with what i have laying around.
I dont have any {Thragtusk} which is the reason why he isnt in this ha..
Looks solid, I ran a 5 color Reanimater like this with a few changes in spells. How's it test for you?
It seems to be fine. I play against my bro and he uses an Esper control deck... We split games.
He has many board wipes, but he also uses {Akroma's Memorial}... Thats usually my bane. He had a weird deck, but pulls it off with GoST, Entreat and Avacyn
Bump
You can kinda run only 3 colors. {W}{R}{G} Naya Midrange would suffice. The {B} only extends to 1 card, but also ruins your curve. {Thragtusk, The Destroyer of Fun} qualifies too.
in a perfect meta: in all honesty the amount of cards at everyone's disposal leans toward playing 5 colors. But this is a Naya deck. {Liliana of the Veil} is an amazing card, but Planeswalkers are expensive removal ({Garruk Relentless}) and one tutors ( {Garruk, the Veil-Cursed}) the rest ({Jace, Architect of Thought}, {Chandra, the Firebrand}, {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}, {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad}) are in decks based on Board Wipes.
Quote from: Dudecore on December 06, 2012, 01:03:35 AM
You can kinda run only 3 colors. {W}{R}{G} Naya Midrange would suffice. The {B} only extends to 1 card, but also ruins your curve. {Thragtusk, The Destroyer of Fun} qualifies too.
I honestly believe you hate {Thragtusk} as much as I do.
I don't even mind {Thragtusk}, if he didn't give 5 life. The fact that if a simple bounce hits him, he leaves behind a token that makes you "think" about removing him. All deck types have to think of their ramifications of attempting to remove him. That is fair, it's a great card for green, probably the type of card green SHOULD have. Just like {Snapcaster Mage} is the type of card Blue SHOULD have, it's a 2/1 that can flash as a blocker and enable a graveyard bounce card or deal damage as Blue.
The 5 life gain should have made him at least {3}{W}{G} to make him less splashible, and Snappy should have been {U}{U}. Thragtusk makes matches go to their time limit consistently, and usually wins. It's just crazy that it is far and away the best spell to play. A 5/3 attached to a card that gives 5 life, attached to a card that creates a 3/3? A 3 for 1 that costs {4}{G} that can only be dealt with by counterspells (which were nerfed because of complaints about {mana leak}) creates an environment where most decks are comprised of {Thragtusk}, then an endless list of functional cards. 5 life can get you back into the game, a grounded 5/3 that makes a 3/3 may not.
Quote from: Dudecore on December 06, 2012, 01:30:17 AM
I don't even mind {Thragtusk}, if he didn't give 5 life. The fact that if a simple bounce hits him, he leaves behind a token that makes you "think" about removing him. All deck types have to think of their ramifications of attempting to remove him. That is fair, it's a great card for green, probably the type of card green SHOULD have. Just like {Snapcaster Mage} is the type of card Blue SHOULD have, it's a 2/1 that can flash as a blocker and enable a graveyard bounce card or deal damage as Blue.
The 5 life gain should have made him at least {3}{W}{G} to make him less splashible, and Snappy should have been {U}{U}. Thragtusk makes matches go to their time limit consistently, and usually wins. It's just crazy that it is far and away the best spell to play. A 5/3 attached to a card that gives 5 life, attached to a card that creates a 3/3? A 3 for 1 that costs {4}{G} that can only be dealt with by counterspells (which were nerfed because of complaints about {mana leak}) creates an environment where most decks are comprised of {Thragtusk}, then an endless list of functional cards. 5 life can get you back into the game, a grounded 5/3 that makes a 3/3 may not.
I completely agree, if he was a {4}{G} 5/3 that gave you a 3/3 beast when he left the field he wouldn't of changed the meta the way he did.
Few people would include a card in their deck that gives them 5 life, (you don't see much {Heroes' Reunion} do you?) but if you attach it to a capable creature that has an ETB effect (coming off a set that reintroduced flicker) it can only be bad.
So the question I have then is what should I change i this deck to make it better? Im running black in it mostly because i was using te {Rakdos Charm}. I have a couple of {Garruk Relentless} coming in the mail, but would you suggest I put them in?
The other reason I have black in it is because of the sideboard (which is constantly changing)... I want to make it into a 4c Frites deck if I need it to be.
I posted it for feedback... Sooooo please keep it coming :)
I'd suggest making it a Naya Midrange deck and calling it a day. Unless you wanna go full blown 4c Frites.
Do you suggest I put the {Garruk Relentless} in? Thragtusk (If i can get some)?
In a midrange deck, maybe. I like {Garruk, Primal Hunter}, reload your hand.
True true. Ill rework it tonight and let you know how it looks... Thanks :)
Sooooo my next question is what do you think I should run as a utility land? {Slayers Stronghold} or {Kessig Wolf Run}? I just dont know which works better at this point.
And suggestions on {Angel of Serenity} or any other creature other than {Thragtusk}.
For utility lands I would probably run {Gavony Township} but beetween slayers stronghold and kesig wolf run then I would Definently run kesig wolf run
I run {Vault of the Archangel}
I no longer have any black in the deck. I dont feel like splashing the black for it.
Quote from: Estel2931 on December 06, 2012, 06:36:20 PM
Sooooo my next question is what do you think I should run as a utility land? {Slayers Stronghold} or {Kessig Wolf Run}? I just dont know which works better at this point.
And suggestions on {Angel of Serenity} or any other creature other than {Thragtusk}.
I like Kessig just because of the large creature base.
And {Angel of Serenity} changes games if she hits the field, reload your hand with creatures or clear the board to swing thru on them.
Quote from: Monrodesign on December 07, 2012, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on December 06, 2012, 06:36:20 PM
Sooooo my next question is what do you think I should run as a utility land? {Slayers Stronghold} or {Kessig Wolf Run}? I just dont know which works better at this point.
And suggestions on {Angel of Serenity} or any other creature other than {Thragtusk}.
I like Kessig just because of the large creature base.
And {Angel of Serenity} changes games if she hits the field, reload your hand with creatures or clear the board to swing thru on them.
Ijust like the vigilance and haste that Slayers' brings... I do like both though.
What would i take out though for the {Angel or Serenity}? I now have 2 {Thragtusk} for the deck... They are replacing the {Centaur Healer}... But i just dont know what would be the best option... Take out the last Centaur and the 2 {Armada Wurm}'s for 3 {Angel of Serenity} or what?? Decisions decisions..
This is my Naya deck. Made it before RtR came out, still relevant now. http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?topic=13770.0
Bump
Im looking at adding some {Cavern of Souls} to this deck and also finishing off the 4 {Thragtusk}... I know how much you like him Dudecore ;)
Quote from: Estel2931 on December 14, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Im looking at adding some {Cavern of Souls} to this deck and also finishing off the 4 {Thragtusk}... I know how much you like him Dudecore ;)
Caverns would make this deck hard to keep up with against control, and my honest opinion {Kessig Wolf Run}, it won the Naya deck this morning for him twice on SCG.
I have some trade in value left at my LGS so I want to see if they have any of those cards left... And some {Thundermaw Hellkite}