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Title: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on January 26, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
HOLY MOSES!!

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ftl/179

I can't believe I missed this combo, but at least so did Noel deCordova:

{Sudden Dissapearance} + {Sundial of the Infinite} = Exile all non-land permanent target player controls!!!  In Standard!   :o
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 26, 2012, 09:49:27 PM
Oh, yeah =P
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Pakamper on January 26, 2012, 11:34:46 PM
Thats pretty lolz. If somebody did that to me id be like 😱😰😭😲
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Spikepit on January 27, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
That's brutal! Im gonna use the hell outta that combo! Their stuff comes back at the end of the next turn, but if it's a 1v1 ... ccooooolll.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on January 27, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 27, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
That's brutal! Im gonna use the hell outta that combo! Their stuff comes back at the end of the next turn, but if it's a 1v1 ... ccooooolll.
Nonono. ðŸ˜"
At the end of the turn you cast {Sudden Disappearance} when the delayed trigger goes on the stack, you end the turn. Leaving their stuff RFG. Gone. Forever. ðŸ'¿ðŸ˜±
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Spikepit on January 27, 2012, 03:00:11 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 27, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 27, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
That's brutal! Im gonna use the hell outta that combo! Their stuff comes back at the end of the next turn, but if it's a 1v1 ... ccooooolll.
Nonono. ðŸ˜"
At the end of the turn you cast {Sudden Disappearance} when the delayed trigger goes on the stack, you end the turn. Leaving their stuff RFG. Gone. Forever. ðŸ'¿ðŸ˜±
But doesn't the wording beginning of the next end step carry over to the next end step? Oh ... *scratches head* ... ok then, I wonder how often I've used similar wording/combos incorrectly in the past. Lol
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on January 27, 2012, 04:04:33 AM
This works just like the afore mentioned {Geist of Saint Traft} combo.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: loop-s-pool on February 04, 2012, 01:21:37 AM
I was about to post this too. I thought of it on my own, but I figured someone would play off of this.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on February 04, 2012, 02:21:48 AM
I know how you feel loop-s-pool. It's so exciting to discover a combo for yourself, but kinda sad when you see others post it too. I often avoid reading combo article for that reason.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Thattallguy on February 10, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
So let me get this straight. The second part of {sudden disappearance} states at the beginning of the next end step. If the sundial is activated at the beginning of the end step that ability is on the stack and it just disappears due to sundials ability and since it is a one time effect it doesn't check during any turn after that? 
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on February 10, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: Thattallguy on February 10, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
So let me get this straight. The second part of {sudden disappearance} states at the beginning of the next end step. If the sundial is activated at the beginning of the end step that ability is on the stack and it just disappears due to sundials ability and since it is a one time effect it doesn't check during any turn after that?
😃🌟✨ðŸ'
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Thattallguy on February 11, 2012, 04:12:14 AM
Would the sundial work with {postmortem lunge}?  If so that's pretty sick combo.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: cltrn81 on February 11, 2012, 09:04:42 AM
Keep posting sundial combos cuz I have 4 sundials and want to build a deck that works with.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on February 11, 2012, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 11, 2012, 09:04:42 AM
Keep posting sundial combos cuz I have 4 sundials and want to build a deck that works with.
Sundial let's you put equipment on illusions. ðŸ'
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Spikepit on February 11, 2012, 09:31:00 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on February 11, 2012, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on February 11, 2012, 09:04:42 AM
Keep posting sundial combos cuz I have 4 sundials and want to build a deck that works with.
Sundial let's you put equipment on illusions. ðŸ'
😱 Because you're targeting the equip on an illusion, the illusion freaks out because it's been targeted and tries to die by putting that ability on the stack. Sundial ends the turn, eliminating the stack and both the illusion remains with the equipment attached ... ? Genius.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on February 11, 2012, 10:51:35 PM
AACCKK!! 😳 Eject! Eject! BOMBO! ðŸ'£

Both the sac trigger and equip will be on the stack, the sac on top. You end the turn with both removed. 😭

Failed experiment.

Edit: The difference between a genius and a madman is that of success or failure.
~Me
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Spikepit on February 12, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
Hahahaha!

I thought it was too good to be true, maybe blindly beleiving everything you say about rules isn't that safe? Lol, just jokes.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on February 12, 2012, 12:52:51 AM
Quote from: Thattallguy on February 11, 2012, 04:12:14 AM
Would the sundial work with {postmortem lunge}?  If so that's pretty sick combo.
I does. ðŸ'
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on February 12, 2012, 12:54:19 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on February 12, 2012, 12:46:11 AM
Hahahaha!

I thought it was too good to be true, maybe blindly beleiving everything you say about rules isn't that safe? Lol, just jokes.
Never blindly trust anyone, especially me.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Denni on February 13, 2012, 04:22:48 PM
How about {vault of the archagel}? Does that work. Every creature geta lifelink an death tough for evaaaaa...

Or am i on a wrong track?
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: BlackJester on February 13, 2012, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: Denni on February 13, 2012, 04:22:48 PM
How about {vault of the archagel}? Does that work. Every creature geta lifelink an death tough for evaaaaa...

Or am i on a wrong track?
Nah, wrong track. Effects that wear off at the end of the turn will still wear off with the sundial. One time triggers are the cat's pajamas here. 🐱ðŸ'˜
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Richardalcala on February 14, 2012, 01:32:28 AM
Cool combo so u cast the spell on his turn then on my turn at the end step let the creatures come back then end the turn. Thus my opponent creatures are done.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Harmon1c on February 14, 2012, 01:37:39 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on February 14, 2012, 01:32:28 AM
Cool combo so u cast the spell on his turn then on my turn at the end step let the creatures come back then end the turn. Thus my opponent creatures are done.
More like {Sudden Disappearance} then {Sundial of the Infinite} on your own turn, since your opponent's end step would trigger the return of his permanents. ;p
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Richardalcala on February 14, 2012, 01:43:07 AM
I like it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Harmon1c on February 14, 2012, 11:48:25 AM
No problem. ðŸ"¨ðŸ˜
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Imdowd80 on February 03, 2013, 12:49:07 PM
Bump
Title: Re: Sudden Sundial!
Post by: Deathseide on February 03, 2013, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 26, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
HOLY MOSES!!

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ftl/179

I can't believe I missed this combo, but at least so did Noel deCordova:

{Sudden Dissapearance} + {Sundial of the Infinite} = Exile all non-land permanent target player controls!!!  In Standard!   :o
-big evil grin-
Such interesting possibilities...
Such as many very nice boom cards that rely on cards coming into play....