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Title: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Bloodguilt on November 29, 2012, 01:42:43 PM
Heartless Burn Black

60 cards, 4 sideboard


24 {Swamp}

24 lands


4 {Tormented Soul}
4 {Gravecrawler}
4 {Blood Artist}
4 {Vampire Nighthawk}
2 {nefarox, overlord of grixis} - replaced { desecration demon}
(removed {Falkenrath noble} felt slow)

18 creatures


4 {Disentomb} - added for shanigans
3 {Undying Evil} -1
3 {Heartless Summoning} -1
4 {Tragic slip} - replaced {murder}
4 {altar's reap} - replaced {cremate}

18 other spells

4 {mutilate}: answer to aggro decks. Main board?
Sideboard
{desecration demon}: opponent sacing/threat
{griselbrand}: alt win con
possible


Notes:
Update: still holding to the {heartless summoning} wipe for damage and life gain, but added some, better, card draw and back up plan. Also cheaper creature removal. Anymore thoughts? And thank you for all the help guys!
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Almosteric on November 29, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
I like the idea. Maybe run  {Disentomb} an  {Tragic Slip}
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Redwings1939 on November 30, 2012, 01:08:00 AM
How bout you just run alters reap instead if you wanna go this rout?.... Your guys don't really benefit from costing 2 colorless less that much...... Just sac grave crawler with alters reap, they lose life, you gain life and card advantage.... Win win
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Zvaughn on November 30, 2012, 04:28:59 AM
Why  {Cremate}? There are other better cards if your using it to draw a card
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Bloodguilt on November 30, 2012, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: Almosteric on November 29, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
I like the idea. Maybe run  {Disentomb} an  {Tragic Slip}
{tragic slip} is a must, totally missed that. Ill try {disentomb} I don't see any reason not too.
I picked {cremate} because I felt I needed a way to draw cards. What better cards are you thinking of? I've been out of magic for about a year so I'm not sure what's worth using and what's not.
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Bloodguilt on November 30, 2012, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Redwings1939 on November 30, 2012, 01:08:00 AM
How bout you just run alters reap instead if you wanna go this rout?.... Your guys don't really benefit from costing 2 colorless less that much...... Just sac grave crawler with alters reap, they lose life, you gain life and card advantage.... Win win
I'm using {heartless summoning} for the    -1/-1. I want to be able to pay 2 mana to wipe my board and do the damage. But I do like {altar's reap} for card advantage, good call.
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 30, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
{Griselbrand} as an alt win con maybe. He can come out two turns earlier, -1/-1 doesn't hurt him all that bad, and he can refill yor hand for free since you'll have {blood artist}s out.
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 30, 2012, 12:20:58 PM
There's also {Nefarox, overlord of grixis} if youre on a budget. While not as effective as GrizzlyBeard, he has exalted so the -1/-1 cancels out, and his ability is great with {blood artist}.
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Bloodguilt on November 30, 2012, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 30, 2012, 12:20:58 PM
There's also {Nefarox, overlord of grixis} if youre on a budget. While not as effective as GrizzlyBeard, he has exalted so the -1/-1 cancels out, and his ability is great with {blood artist}.
I like the {nefarox, overlord of grixis} not sure about {Grisselbrand} yet.
Made some changes that were suggested but still have no idea for sideboard options, 15 lands maybe? Just so I look like I'm being good and switching out cards
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Redwings1939 on November 30, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
Mutilate is amazing board wipe with mono black decks.....even kills  industructable creatures , and all the deaths stack with blood artist... With 2 blood artists out and they have 3 creatures ... 20 point swing with 1 card. You gain 10 they lose 10
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Almosteric on November 30, 2012, 04:07:26 PM
I also like  {Butcher Ghoul} over  {Tormented Soul}, seems to work more with the theme.
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Almosteric on November 30, 2012, 04:15:44 PM
I made a version yesterday. I'll post it for ya.
Title: Re: Heartless Burn Black
Post by: Bloodguilt on November 30, 2012, 04:42:35 PM
Quote from: Almosteric on November 30, 2012, 04:07:26 PM
I also like  {Butcher Ghoul} over  {Tormented Soul}, seems to work more with the theme.
{butcher ghoul} was in my original design, along with some other zombies but I decided not to go that route. Using undying in this deck feels clunky, atleast to me. I've got {undying evil} only for {blood artist} in case I need to continue pinging my opponent or for saving a creature that is just ripping up the field. {mutilate} seems viable though....