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Arcum Dagsson 100 cards, 1 sideboard 37 {Island} 1 {Seat of the Synod} 1 {Reliquary Tower} 1 {Darksteel Citadel} 40 lands 1 {Wurmcoil Engine} 1 {Karn, Silver Golem} 1 {Blightsteel Colossus} 1 {Master of Etherium} 1 {Trinket Mage} 1 {Darksteel Colossus} 1 {Sharding Sphinx} 1 {Master Transmuter} 1 {Ornithopter} 1 {Memnite} 1 {Memnarch} 1 {Phyrexian Metamorph} 1 {Gemini Engine} 1 {Treasure Mage} 1 {Pentavus} 1 {Inkwell Leviathan} 1 {Kuldotha Forgemaster} 1 {Grand Architect} 1 {Steel Overseer} 1 {Solemn Simulacrum} 20 creatures 1 {Mind's Eye} 1 {Batterskull} 1 {Energy Chamber} 1 {Darksteel Reactor} 1 {Argentum Armor} 1 {Artificer's Intuition} 1 {Mycosynth Lattice} 1 {Tezzeret the Seeker} 1 {Remand} 1 {Mystical Tutor} 1 {Darksteel Forge} 1 {Conjurer's Closet} 1 {Quietus Spike} 1 {Fabricate} 1 {Spine of Ish Sah} 1 {Argent Mutation} 1 {Teferi's Puzzle Box} 1 {Acquire} 1 {Voltaic Key} 1 {Reshape} 1 {Ward of Bones} 1 {Contagion Engine} 1 {Blue Sun's Zenith} 1 {Unwinding Clock} 1 {Hedron Matrix} 1 {Eternity Vessel} 1 {Domineer} 1 {Nuisance Engine} 1 {Salvaging Station} 1 {Shape Anew} 1 {Hinder} 1 {Akroma's Memorial} 1 {Chimeric Mass} 1 {Psychic Spiral} 1 {March of the Machines} 1 {Spell Crumple} 1 {Thornbite Staff} 1 {Mind Unbound} 1 {Mirrorworks} 39 other spells Sideboard 1 {Arcum Dagsson} 1 sideboard cards Notes: I could use alot of help with this. Plan is to mainly use mycosynth lattice.

{Master Transmuter} comes to mind, as a fun alternative of cheating cards into play, in case your general is getting hate. {Memnarch} is always fun when running {Mycosynth Lattice}, and {Mirrorworks} can get pretty ridiculous in the right deck. I would suggest {Inkwell Leviathan}, you can cheat it into play with a Transmuter, and its pretty big and evasive, and that goes a long way in EDH.
Also, you have access to blue, so I would throw in some card draw, but I'm a guy who loves to draw when playing blue. A {Blue  Zenith} could do well, just to keep things going smoothly.

I thought id put in the transmuter already!
Thanks for reminding me!
I will put in these other things aswell!

Updated

Try and find some funny useful utility artifacts for use against different decks

{Crawlspace} is great against swarms
Use some great equipment cards like  {Quietus Spike} or  {Batterskull}
My suggestion I look at some other commanders that people post on here and try and find good artifacts that beat that strategy. You general is a tool box. Just need to make sure you always have the right tool.

You got me thinking there...
{Thornbiter staff}... ;D

Since you can get around mana costs, what about something like {Spine of Ish Sah} or {Argentum Armor} for permanent removal? Blue can bounce, but its a bit hard for it to destroy things, so those might help if you find yourself in need of removal.

Quote from: Keyeto on November 29, 2012, 12:21:30 PM
Since you can get around mana costs, what about something like {Spine of Ish Sah} or {Argentum Armor} for permanent removal? Blue can bounce, but its a bit hard for it to destroy things, so those might help if you find yourself in need of removal.

I was thinking of using the spine with {Master transmuter}, and {Memnite} etc.
Good idea?
Armor is already there ;D
Btw is {Elbrus the binding blade} illegal in a mono {U} deck?

Quote from: Fenster on November 29, 2012, 12:28:11 PM

Quote from: Keyeto on November 29, 2012, 12:21:30 PM
Since you can get around mana costs, what about something like {Spine of Ish Sah} or {Argentum Armor} for permanent removal? Blue can bounce, but its a bit hard for it to destroy things, so those might help if you find yourself in need of removal.

I was thinking of using the spine with {Master transmuter}, and {Memnite} etc.
Good idea?
Armor is already there ;D
Btw is {Elbrus the binding blade} illegal in a mono {U} deck?

Yeah, Transmuter and spine would be a nice combo. A bit costly mana-wise, but if you need removal it gets the job done. And I can't believe I didn't see the armor, I checked like, 3 times to make sure and I still missed it haha. And yeah, Elbrus has black so it isn't allowed.

So two faced cards counts both sides? Good to know.

Quote from: Fenster on November 29, 2012, 02:14:44 PM
So two faced cards counts both sides? Good to know.

Yep, in commander (outside of house rules) all colors are taken into account. Whether its double faced cards, mana in the text box that's different than the casting color, or hybrid cards, all colors have to be within the commander's colors.

So cards that, for example, "if x color was spent to cast this card" arent legal

Quote from: Fenster on November 29, 2012, 02:48:11 PM
So cards that, for example, "if x color was spent to cast this card" arent legal

Correct. For example, a {Shrieking Grotesque} would not be allowed in a mono {W} EDH deck. Why you would want to put it in a mono deck, I'm not sure, but you can't.

As Agra suggested, {Batterskull}. Quite brilliant, actually. As its a non creature artifact, your command can search for it and because of the germ token, you get a creature out of it (effectively)!

{Blightsteel Colossus} is always fun, too. Especially with Master Transmuter and other ways to play him fast in the deck.

{Karn, Silver Golem} and {Karn Liberated} both could be good in here, too.  {March of the machines} is global, Karn lets you pick and choose to your benefit!

Quote from: Gorzo on November 29, 2012, 04:34:48 PM
As Agra suggested, {Batterskull}. Quite brilliant, actually. As its a non creature artifact, your command can search for it and because of the germ token, you get a creature out of it (effectively)!

{Blightsteel Colossus} is always fun, too. Especially with Master Transmuter and other ways to play him fast in the deck.

{Karn, Silver Golem} and {Karn Liberated} both could be good in here, too.  {March of the machines} is global, Karn lets you pick and choose to your benefit!

I updated it again... What can i remove?  To add b-steel and b-skull?
Is {Wurmcoil engine} good?

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:01:35 PM

Quote from: Gorzo on November 29, 2012, 04:34:48 PM
As Agra suggested, {Batterskull}. Quite brilliant, actually. As its a non creature artifact, your command can search for it and because of the germ token, you get a creature out of it (effectively)!

{Blightsteel Colossus} is always fun, too. Especially with Master Transmuter and other ways to play him fast in the deck.

{Karn, Silver Golem} and {Karn Liberated} both could be good in here, too.  {March of the machines} is global, Karn lets you pick and choose to your benefit!

I updated it again... What can i remove?  To add b-steel and b-skull?
Is {Wurmcoil engine} good?

I would consider taking out {Inexorable Tide}, since a lot of your plays will be cheating things into play, as opposed to casting. {Booby Trap} could possibly go too, since its probably gonna sit there for a while before it can go off (if it ever does). {Chimeric Mass} could go out for {Wurmcoil Engine}, just think about paying 6 mana for each; Wurmcoil wins if you ask me. Just some ideas.

Quote from: Keyeto on November 30, 2012, 12:09:40 PM

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:01:35 PM

Quote from: Gorzo on November 29, 2012, 04:34:48 PM
As Agra suggested, {Batterskull}. Quite brilliant, actually. As its a non creature artifact, your command can search for it and because of the germ token, you get a creature out of it (effectively)!

{Blightsteel Colossus} is always fun, too. Especially with Master Transmuter and other ways to play him fast in the deck.

{Karn, Silver Golem} and {Karn Liberated} both could be good in here, too.  {March of the machines} is global, Karn lets you pick and choose to your benefit!

I updated it again... What can i remove?  To add b-steel and b-skull?
Is {Wurmcoil engine} good?

I would consider taking out {Inexorable Tide}, since a lot of your plays will be cheating things into play, as opposed to casting. {Booby Trap} could possibly go too, since its probably gonna sit there for a while before it can go off (if it ever does). {Chimeric Mass} could go out for {Wurmcoil Engine}, just think about paying 6 mana for each; Wurmcoil wins if you ask me. Just some ideas.

Def taking out tide! I totally overlooked it!
Chimeric mass with {Energy chamber} and {Salvaging station} creates a decent loop for Arcum. Booby trap can go too.
Is  {Summoning Station} also removable?

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:28:35 PM
Def taking out tide! I totally overlooked it!
Chimeric mass with {Energy chamber} and {Salvaging station} creates a decent loop for Arcum. Booby trap can go too.
Is  {Summoning Station} also removable?

Yeah, it's too costly I think. I'd keep the mass then (I overlooked that combo) and replace the station.

Updated. {Mishras bauble} feels useless, no? But with salvaging station its consistant extra draw
I feel like taking out summoning station for {Karn silver golem}

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Updated. {Mishras bauble} feels useless, no? But with salvaging station its consistant extra draw
I feel like taking out summoning station for {Karn silver golem}

Yeah, I'd get rid of the bauble. If you want repeatable card draw, how about something like {Rhystic Study} or {Mind's Eye}? Maybe {Temple Bell} even?

Quote from: Keyeto on November 30, 2012, 12:46:57 PM

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Updated. {Mishras bauble} feels useless, no? But with salvaging station its consistant extra draw
I feel like taking out summoning station for {Karn silver golem}

Yeah, I'd get rid of the bauble. If you want repeatable card draw, how about something like {Rhystic Study} or {Mind's Eye}? Maybe {Temple Bell} even?

Minds eye seems very useful!

I have a good feeling about this right now!

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:55:07 PM

Quote from: Keyeto on November 30, 2012, 12:46:57 PM

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Updated. {Mishras bauble} feels useless, no? But with salvaging station its consistant extra draw
I feel like taking out summoning station for {Karn silver golem}

Yeah, I'd get rid of the bauble. If you want repeatable card draw, how about something like {Rhystic Study} or {Mind's Eye}? Maybe {Temple Bell} even?

Minds eye seems very useful!

It's a great card! {Rhystic Study} is great too, making them decide between paying mana or giving you card advantage. The Bell is nice, since it doesn't cost mana to use, and puts a smaller target on your head than the other two. It's all about how you want to play, really.

Quote from: Keyeto on November 30, 2012, 12:58:35 PM

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:55:07 PM

Quote from: Keyeto on November 30, 2012, 12:46:57 PM

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Updated. {Mishras bauble} feels useless, no? But with salvaging station its consistant extra draw
I feel like taking out summoning station for {Karn silver golem}

Yeah, I'd get rid of the bauble. If you want repeatable card draw, how about something like {Rhystic Study} or {Mind's Eye}? Maybe {Temple Bell} even?

Minds eye seems very useful!

It's a great card! {Rhystic Study} is great too, making them decide between paying mana or giving you card advantage. The Bell is nice, since it doesn't cost mana to use, and puts a smaller target on your head than the other two. It's all about how you want to play, really.

I think ill build it and test it out! I might go for bell though... It could be more interesting in a multiplayer game.

Also i totally want to get out blightsteel with argentum armor and thornbiter staf on ;D

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 05:02:11 PM

Quote from: Keyeto on November 30, 2012, 12:58:35 PM

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:55:07 PM

Quote from: Keyeto on November 30, 2012, 12:46:57 PM

Quote from: Fenster on November 30, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Updated. {Mishras bauble} feels useless, no? But with salvaging station its consistant extra draw
I feel like taking out summoning station for {Karn silver golem}

Yeah, I'd get rid of the bauble. If you want repeatable card draw, how about something like {Rhystic Study} or {Mind's Eye}? Maybe {Temple Bell} even?

Minds eye seems very useful!

It's a great card! {Rhystic Study} is great too, making them decide between paying mana or giving you card advantage. The Bell is nice, since it doesn't cost mana to use, and puts a smaller target on your head than the other two. It's all about how you want to play, really.

I think ill build it and test it out! I might go for bell though... It could be more interesting in a multiplayer game.

Also i totally want to get out blightsteel with argentum armor and thornbiter staf on ;D

Oh you're playgroup will love that one haha
With access to blue, don't forget to make it unblockable! That just screams fun!

If your plan is to cheat things into play, why not some darksteel forge or akroma's memorial? If those are legal... Fun stuff

Quote from: MisterJH on November 30, 2012, 11:02:40 PM
If your plan is to cheat things into play, why not some darksteel forge or akroma's memorial? If those are legal... Fun stuff

Yeah they're both in already ;D
Immagine pulling march of the machines with {Akromas memorial} ;D