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Title: New PW
Post by: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 07:35:53 AM
Anyone see the new PW yet? Seems pretty good for this creature heavy meta. http://bit.ly/XOUpNo
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

Not sure u would want to draw you whole library unless you could end the game. Seems too situational. 
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Keyeto on November 17, 2012, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

Not sure u would want to draw you whole library unless you could end the game. Seems too situational.

I'm not sure how situational it is. If you have that much mana, and access to your whole library, you better be able to end the game lol.

Edit: Sorry, kinda ignored the OP. New PW looks pretty cool. If you can keep him safe, you're gonna issue some beatings! Still waiting on Orzhov and Dimir spoilers though.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on November 17, 2012, 09:09:36 AM
A {lands edge} creature? Neat. And an artifact win condition creature. I'm gonna have to make some changes for EDH...lol
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on November 17, 2012, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

Not sure u would want to draw you whole library unless you could end the game. Seems too situational.

I'm not sure how situational it is. If you have that much mana, and access to your whole library, you better be able to end the game lol.

Edit: Sorry, kinda ignored the OP. New PW looks pretty cool. If you can keep him safe, you're gonna issue some beatings! Still waiting on Orzhov and Dimir spoilers though.

Ok so on turn 11 you play the speed tap down all your land then draw you library then put one card on top your library then pass turn. Priority comes back to u. You draw your last card in the library maybe play some creatures or spells if you can't end the game that turn or before your next draw step it's gg. It a jhonny card. Sorry. 
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 09:35:23 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

Not sure u would want to draw you whole library unless you could end the game. Seems too situational.

That's exactly what I would need it for. Im going to try it out in a defender {worldfire} deck.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Fenster on November 17, 2012, 09:50:32 AM
Counter/control into {counterlash} + Enter the infinite. Then curiosity counterlash ombicience and win! ;D
That or {Phsycic spiral} on your next turn :P
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Keyeto on November 17, 2012, 10:04:12 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on November 17, 2012, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

Not sure u would want to draw you whole library unless you could end the game. Seems too situational.

I'm not sure how situational it is. If you have that much mana, and access to your whole library, you better be able to end the game lol.

Edit: Sorry, kinda ignored the OP. New PW looks pretty cool. If you can keep him safe, you're gonna issue some beatings! Still waiting on Orzhov and Dimir spoilers though.

Ok so on turn 11 you play the speed tap down all your land then draw you library then put one card on top your library then pass turn. Priority comes back to u. You draw your last card in the library maybe play some creatures or spells if you can't end the game that turn or before your next draw step it's gg. It a jhonny card. Sorry.

I can definitely see where you're coming from here. But people playing this are probably gonna be playing Izzet. So, drawing an entire library of burn spells with 12 mana ready to go should definitely be able to do the job. Especially after 11 or so turns of burning before that. I personally don't really like the card, but I can see why some people would.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on November 17, 2012, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

Not sure u would want to draw you whole library unless you could end the game. Seems too situational.

I'm not sure how situational it is. If you have that much mana, and access to your whole library, you better be able to end the game lol.

Edit: Sorry, kinda ignored the OP. New PW looks pretty cool. If you can keep him safe, you're gonna issue some beatings! Still waiting on Orzhov and Dimir spoilers though.

Exactly. I would only play it if I could end the game. The particular deck I want to try it in also runs {omniscience}. Thats the only way I would drop Enter the Infinite. If omni was already out. After that gets setup, o-ring a {staff of nin}, {lobber crew}, or any of the other win-cons i have in the deck and its gg.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Jroch314 on November 17, 2012, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: Keyeto on November 17, 2012, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: Richardalcala on November 17, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

Not sure u would want to draw you whole library unless you could end the game. Seems too situational.

I'm not sure how situational it is. If you have that much mana, and access to your whole library, you better be able to end the game lol.

Edit: Sorry, kinda ignored the OP. New PW looks pretty cool. If you can keep him safe, you're gonna issue some beatings! Still waiting on Orzhov and Dimir spoilers though.

Exactly. I would only play it if I could end the game. The particular deck I want to try it in also runs {omniscience}. Thats the only way I would drop Enter the Infinite. If omni was already out. After that gets setup, o-ring a {staff of nin}, {lobber crew}, or any of the other win-cons i have in the deck and its gg.
Or as a last ditch effort to save yourself from certain doom.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Maximo on November 17, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
I really hope that isn't a real Planeswalker, because he is very underwhelming. Same with that dragon. 20 artifacts? Seriously?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
That new planeswalker


Just his +1 is amazing but that ult.....

Saving all the dreadbores....
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Fishsticks123 on November 17, 2012, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.


That card is buh-roken for legacy high tide.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Moneekahh on November 17, 2012, 12:05:21 PM
I'm more interested in Aurelia, the Warleader for my {Kaalia of the Vast} EDH. 😍
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on November 17, 2012, 12:17:20 PM
I like {Borborygmos Enraged} a lot!!!
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 17, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
Run four {temporal mastery} a few {diabolic revelation} and both {omniscience} and this new infinite card. The moment you can cast omniscience you win, use temporal to give yourself the next turn play whatever, next turn hard cast diabolic revelation to grab that infinite card and draw into {craterhoof behemoth}, {griselbrand}, {angel of serenity}, and for giggles {akroma's memorial}?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: AgrusKos on November 17, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
Who cares about Infinite and Borborgymos?

AURELIA THE WARLEADER FTW
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Bapr on November 17, 2012, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: AgrusKos on November 17, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
Who cares about Infinite and Borborgymos?

AURELIA THE WARLEADER FTW

Yes! Lets talk more about this awesome angel!
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: AgrusKos on November 17, 2012, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: Bapr on November 17, 2012, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: AgrusKos on November 17, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
Who cares about Infinite and Borborgymos?

AURELIA THE WARLEADER FTW

Yes! Lets talk more about this awesome angel!
By herself, she's kinda crap, but with an army... Why couldn't she be printed with battle cry?!?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Coffee Vampire on November 17, 2012, 12:41:48 PM
Some mod should just change the name of this to Gatecrash *SPOILERS* and sticky it.

For the record the new card that makes your library your hand is amazing!!! Sooo many possibilities with my battle of wits deck
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: AgrusKos on November 17, 2012, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on November 17, 2012, 12:41:48 PM
Some mod should just change the name of this to Gatecrash *SPOILERS* and sticky it.

For the record the new card that makes your library your hand is amazing!!! Sooo many possibilities with my battle of wits deck
How would you hold that?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
Just thought of something

With the PW, RUG delver could be viable, plus one him to look at top card

Seems like a viable option, I mean its not a draw, but it's not bad...
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Moneekahh on November 17, 2012, 12:49:40 PM
And actually that dragon is looking like a decent sideboard option for modern naya pod, to board in against affinity. Yay or nay?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
Just thought of something

With the PW, RUG delver could be viable, plus one him to look at top card

Seems like a viable option, I mean its not a draw, but it's not bad...

You could then include the CA architect gives and then you are looking at a mean deck...
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Fishsticks123 on November 17, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
Just thought of something

With the PW, RUG delver could be viable, plus one him to look at top card

Seems like a viable option, I mean its not a draw, but it's not bad...

You could then include the CA architect gives and then you are looking at a mean deck...

CA Architect?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 01:47:47 PM
Quote from: Fishsticks123 on November 17, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
Just thought of something

With the PW, RUG delver could be viable, plus one him to look at top card

Seems like a viable option, I mean its not a draw, but it's not bad...

You could then include the CA architect gives and then you are looking at a mean deck...

CA Architect?

CA = card advantage

Architect is the new jace
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: AgrusKos on November 17, 2012, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 01:47:47 PM
Quote from: Fishsticks123 on November 17, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on November 17, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
Just thought of something

With the PW, RUG delver could be viable, plus one him to look at top card

Seems like a viable option, I mean its not a draw, but it's not bad...

You could then include the CA architect gives and then you are looking at a mean deck...

CA Architect?

CA = card advantage

Architect is the new jace
Why not say new Jace then?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Gorzo on November 17, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
Isn't it still a bit early for spoilers to be coming out? And the fact that these say "source:Craigslist" is not exactly piquing my intrigue. I think I'll wait for something more official until I make any conclusions.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Moneekahh on November 17, 2012, 01:58:05 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on November 17, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
Isn't it still a bit early for spoilers to be coming out? And the fact that these say "source:Craigslist" is not exactly piquing my intrigue. I think I'll wait for something more official until I make any conclusions.

I've never known mtgsalvation spoilers to be inaccurate.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

I'll {Thought Scour} you EOT.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Dudecore on November 17, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
He'll definitely see play. Cheap card advantage for {R}{G}? I don't care whatever his other abilities are, +1 is where it's at.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Maximo on November 17, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

I'll {Thought Scour} you EOT.

{Otherworld Atlas}
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on November 17, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on November 17, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
Isn't it still a bit early for spoilers to be coming out? And the fact that these say "source:Craigslist" is not exactly piquing my intrigue. I think I'll wait for something more official until I make any conclusions.
I'm the same way, but tcgplayer and gathering magic on Facebook are also talking about it. I would like borborygmos to be real. I can have fun with that card.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 02:03:53 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 17, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
He'll definitely see play. Cheap card advantage for {R}{G}? I don't care whatever his other abilities are, +1 is where it's at.

Agree.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Quackmaster5 on November 17, 2012, 02:14:17 PM
The only reason I'm skeptical about this is bc they made a mythic rare dragon in RtR, now they have another. Also, you mean to tell me that jund is going to be able to use two different planes walkers. I mean, I know green has always been screwed when it comes to planes walkers, but two in a row seems a little far fetched.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

I'll {Thought Scour} you EOT.

{Negate}, {cancel}, {dissipate}, {dispel}, blah blah blah. Keep going?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Coffee Vampire on November 17, 2012, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: AgrusKos on November 17, 2012, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on November 17, 2012, 12:41:48 PM
Some mod should just change the name of this to Gatecrash *SPOILERS* and sticky it.

For the record the new card that makes your library your hand is amazing!!! Sooo many possibilities with my battle of wits deck
How would you hold that?
I don't hold it, I put it in the bottom half of a fat pack box and stand it up.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Jroch314 on November 17, 2012, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

I'll {Thought Scour} you EOT.

{Negate}, {cancel}, {dissipate}, {dispel}, blah blah blah. Keep going?
Agreed. Especially if {Omniscience} is out, you probably have almost all your counters that are in your deck in your hand. And u can just flip em out without paying for them lol. That's going to be a VERY interesting card.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: Jroch314 on November 17, 2012, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

I'll {Thought Scour} you EOT.

{Negate}, {cancel}, {dissipate}, {dispel}, blah blah blah. Keep going?
Agreed. Especially if {Omniscience} is out, you probably have almost all your counters that are in your deck in your hand. And u can just flip em out without paying for them lol. That's going to be a VERY interesting card.

Run {Laboratory Maniac} with it.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Silent1236 on November 17, 2012, 05:57:47 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on November 17, 2012, 02:14:17 PM
The only reason I'm skeptical about this is bc they made a mythic rare dragon in RtR, now they have another. Also, you mean to tell me that jund is going to be able to use two different planes walkers. I mean, I know green has always been screwed when it comes to planes walkers, but two in a row seems a little far fetched.

{Balefire Dragon}
{Moonveil Dragon}

Just saying
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 06:19:30 PM
Quote from: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: Jroch314 on November 17, 2012, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: Monrodesign on November 17, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 17, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
He looks pretty cool but im drooling over Enter the Infinite. Holy 💩 that looks fun.

I'll {Thought Scour} you EOT.

{Negate}, {cancel}, {dissipate}, {dispel}, blah blah blah. Keep going?
Agreed. Especially if {Omniscience} is out, you probably have almost all your counters that are in your deck in your hand. And u can just flip em out without paying for them lol. That's going to be a VERY interesting card.

Run {Laboratory Maniac} with it.

Nice!!
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Coffee Vampire on November 17, 2012, 07:08:10 PM
All you need is 1 laboratory maniac in tye deck and the new 12 mana CMC spell becomes: win the game.

Especially in a 250 card deck! Virtually speaking, you now have unlimited counterspells, and unlimited draw spells. So just cast maniac then cast {Inspiration} or something!
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Kerebrus on November 17, 2012, 11:49:36 PM
I can't wait for that new angel she is SICK!
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Dudecore on November 17, 2012, 11:52:17 PM
It's another Timmy-Johnny card printed at Mythic for Blue. When will the madness end?
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Coffee Vampire on November 18, 2012, 12:21:06 AM
Quote from: Kerebrus on November 17, 2012, 11:49:36 PM
I can't wait for that new angel she is SICK!
She is like gisela only she can actually be cast....HASTE AND TWO ATACK PHASES.

.....OK.
Title: Re: New PW
Post by: Greg54js on November 18, 2012, 12:10:10 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on November 17, 2012, 11:52:17 PM
It's another Timmy-Johnny card printed at Mythic for Blue. When will the madness end?
The madness will end when you're at Wits End