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Title: Need a reason
Post by: Fenster on November 03, 2012, 06:19:20 PM
I want to know the secret behind {Dark confidant}s high price. What makes him so awesome?
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Mikefrompluto on November 03, 2012, 06:24:14 PM
I think hes good but not 43 dollars good.
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Fenster on November 03, 2012, 06:25:14 PM
Thats my thought too!
But then again i also thought {Necropotence} was rubish for a while! ;D
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Silent1236 on November 03, 2012, 06:34:43 PM
I may have thought {Geist of Saint Traft} was dumb when Innistrad came out and traded him at about $2 or $3....  ::) Oh younger me...

I saw the relevance in this when I posted it, but I've forgotten what it was....
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Dudecore on November 03, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: Fenster on November 03, 2012, 06:19:20 PM
I want to know the secret behind {Dark confidant}s high price. What makes him so awesome?

Card Advantage for {B}. He's not for every deck, but black aggro decks the curve is low and doesn't kill you. He swings for 2, he can hold a sword and its splashible.

What else is there really? Card advantage wins games, and {Dark Confidant} is card advantage. Plus, look at the alternatives. {Necropotence} is banned. {Sign in Blood}? Maybe.
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Fenster on November 03, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Well i guess but 40+ i mean not even snappy's at that anymore
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Silent1236 on November 03, 2012, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: Fenster on November 03, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Well i guess but 40+ i mean not even snappy's at that anymore

I didn't know he did hit 40 :o
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Dudecore on November 03, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: Fenster on November 03, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Well i guess but 40+ i mean not even snappy's at that anymore

{Snapcaster Mage} is still standard legal. {Dark Confidant} came out 6 years ago, he's cheap card advantage and actually changes the way your deck can play and curve out. $40 is probably too cheap if you're winning, or have an advantage your opponent does not.

Control decks in Legacy have better options, decks in Modern do not.
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Gorzo on November 03, 2012, 08:01:23 PM
Its all about the hypothetical draw you get with him in the right deck. Imagine yourself in a black agro deck it's turn 3, an your turn begins with your dark confidante on the field.

Best case scenario: you draw an extra card. It's the perfect 5 drop you can {dark ritual} into. You lose a little life and play a potentially game winning card.

Worst case scenario: you draw an extra card. It's a swamp. You lose 0 life, and got rid of a dead draw you would have gotten next turn without confidante. You have an extra land, in case you need it to play or to discard.

Usual case scenario: you draw an agro creature or spell. Lose 1 or 2 life. Use it to cause more than that much life loss to your opponent.  Profit, have a nice day.
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Greg54js on November 03, 2012, 10:48:18 PM
Bob plus top equals the 40 dollar price tag. It's a really insane combo that works really good for those who play it
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Dudecore on November 03, 2012, 11:00:44 PM
{Sensei's Divining Top} is sad pants for everyone. (Not legal in Modern however).
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Fenster on November 04, 2012, 08:24:44 AM
I understand compöetly now thanks :)
But who's bob?
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Dudecore on November 04, 2012, 08:31:03 AM
Quote from: Fenster on November 04, 2012, 08:24:44 AM
I understand compöetly now thanks :)
But who's bob?

{Dark Confidant} is nicknamed after Bob Maher, its creator. Maher won the right to design the card affer his 2004 Magic Invitational victory.
Title: Re: Need a reason
Post by: Fenster on November 04, 2012, 08:34:54 AM
Oh i see ;D