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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Fenster on November 01, 2012, 11:24:06 AM

Title: Timely/untimely?
Post by: Fenster on November 01, 2012, 11:24:06 AM
So when do players lose?
Example: Both at 10 life. Opponent uses {Sorin vengeance} i {reverberate} it. Does he lose as reverberate/copy resolves or do both players end up at 10 again? Or if it was no lifegain is it a draw?
Title: Re: Timely/untimely?
Post by: Juggalonoke on November 01, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
Neither I think... Players life state at end of turn would be 10 once again... Buti could be wrong it could be the winner is which ever sorins vengeance resolved first..
Title: Re: Timely/untimely?
Post by: Elitehalo360 on November 01, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
the reverberate goes on the stack above the original and resolves first and and brings him to zero and he loses.
Title: Re: Timely/untimely?
Post by: Fenster on November 01, 2012, 11:35:04 AM
So its statebased?
Title: Re: Timely/untimely?
Post by: D3g3n on November 01, 2012, 11:50:20 AM
Yup, since your copy resolves first, their life would be at 0 at the state based check, thus they lose.
Title: Re: Timely/untimely?
Post by: Fenster on November 01, 2012, 12:04:52 PM
Thanks yall!
Title: Re: Timely/untimely?
Post by: scarsabrex on November 01, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
Just to clarify the original vengeance would never resolve.