If I put lure on an unblockable creature, what happens?
Can't always trumps can. If one effect says "all creatures block if able" and another says "creatures can't block" they won't be able to block.
Basically, the {Lure} will do nothing.
Quote from: BlackJester on January 14, 2012, 09:01:59 PM
Can't always trumps can. If one effect says "all creatures block if able" and another says "creatures can't block" they won't be able to block.
Basically, the {Lure} will do nothing.
Thank you!
Happy to help.
A side question: say my oppenent has 1 life and i have 2 1/1 creatures and he has 57 creatures. I use Lure on one of my creatures and swing with both i win correct?
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on January 16, 2012, 03:45:25 AM
A side question: say my oppenent has 1 life and i have 2 1/1 creatures and he has 57 creatures. I use Lure on one of my creatures and swing with both i win correct?
yup
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on January 16, 2012, 03:45:25 AM
A side question: say my oppenent has 1 life and i have 2 1/1 creatures and he has 57 creatures. I use Lure on one of my creatures and swing with both i win correct?
That would be hularious.
Quote from: Pakamper on January 16, 2012, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on January 16, 2012, 03:45:25 AM
A side question: say my oppenent has 1 life and i have 2 1/1 creatures and he has 57 creatures. I use Lure on one of my creatures and swing with both i win correct?
That would be hularious.
That poor jerk who invested in all those {Relentless Rats} would be so sad.
Quote from: SpiritedAway on January 20, 2012, 04:12:40 AM
Quote from: Pakamper on January 16, 2012, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on January 16, 2012, 03:45:25 AM
A side question: say my oppenent has 1 life and i have 2 1/1 creatures and he has 57 creatures. I use Lure on one of my creatures and swing with both i win correct?
That would be hularious.
That poor jerk who invested in all those {Relentless Rats} would be so sad.
I almost did haha
Quote from: SpiritedAway on January 20, 2012, 04:12:40 AM
Quote from: Pakamper on January 16, 2012, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on January 16, 2012, 03:45:25 AM
A side question: say my oppenent has 1 life and i have 2 1/1 creatures and he has 57 creatures. I use Lure on one of my creatures and swing with both i win correct?
That would be hularious.
That poor jerk who invested in all those {Relentless Rats} would be so sad.
I know someone with a deck like this and has invested quite a bit in trample cards, as well as a few planeswalkers... (he left angry) but what he failed to realize is i had lifes finally and a creature that dealt damage to target opponent when it and every other creature dies... Ida won anyway...
I have a real hard ass friend that refuses to believe that this is possible. Can you please refer me to a rule or ruling some where on wizards.com or in an official rule book that explains this happening.
My circumstance is I had a 2/4 elf bard (all creatures able to block this creature do so)
And various other elves in play. He had several large creatures (4/4, 6/6 and a few others). This is the same scenario correct? His argument was since any one of his creatures can kill my elf bard all he needed to do was block it with one of them and that would kill it and all his other creatures would be free to block the others. I said WTF. I showed him this post but "it isn't official enough" for him.
Quote from: Hakuu on April 09, 2012, 10:14:15 PM
I have a real hard ass friend that refuses to believe that this is possible. Can you please refer me to a rule or ruling some where on wizards.com or in an official rule book that explains this happening.
My circumstance is I had a 2/4 elf bard (all creatures able to block this creature do so)
And various other elves in play. He had several large creatures (4/4, 6/6 and a few others). This is the same scenario correct? His argument was since any one of his creatures can kill my elf bard all he needed to do was block it with one of them and that would kill it and all his other creatures would be free to block the others. I said WTF. I showed him this post but "it isn't official enough" for him.
Your friend is a prick. Honestly.
Your telling me. We basically got in a yelling bout over blocking procedures. He drives me nuts.
I don't know what to tell your friend other than me, an official Rules Advisor is telling him to RTFC:
{Elvish Bard}
"All creatures able to block Elvish Bard do so."
Im not really sure where the confusion is.
Is it a creature? Yes.
Can it legally block the Elf (is it untapped?)? Yes.
Then it has to block the Elf. Meaning ALL creatures block it. Not just enough to kill it. If that's what it meant, it would say so.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 09, 2012, 11:53:49 PM
I don't know what to tell your friend other than me, an official Rules Advisor is telling him to RTFC:
{Elvish Bard}
"All creatures able to block Elvish Bard do so."
Im not really sure where the confusion is.
Is it a creature? Yes.
Can it legally block the Elf (is it untapped?)? Yes.
Then it has to block the Elf. Meaning ALL creatures block it. Not just enough to kill it. If that's what it meant, it would say so.
^That. I second the notion that your friend is a prick.
Sum peeepoe these days!
Well he said that he doesn't know you wand he can't see your creds so he is maintaining his argument that after he blocks it with enough creaters to kill it all his other creatures are free to block all my others attackers. He demands to see a rule in the official rule book that says this. I think the only reason he protest it so much is because I have an elf token deck and that card has killed him every time it comes out.
It sounds like he is going to refuse any evidence I could present, but here we go:
Go to DCI player center and enter in his DCI number. If he doesn't have one, he should. They are free and you need it to play in tourneys.
https://membership.wizards.com/
Then look me up:
Brodi Roberts
DCI: 1200332867
Status: Rules Advisor
This means that I passed a challenging test to demonstrate a level of rules understanding worthy of judging official events like FNM or Prereleases.
Then show him the Golden Rule of Magic: the Gathering (I'm not making this up, it's officially called the golden rule from the Comprehensive Rule Book):
CR 101.1. Whenever a card's text directly contradicts these rules, the card takes precedence. The card overrides only the rule that applies to that specific situation. The only exception is that a player can concede the game at any time (see rule 104.3a).
And then this one:
CR 509.1c The defending player checks each creature he or she controls to see whether it's affected by any requirements (effects that say a creature must block, or that it must block if some condition is met). If the number of requirements that are being obeyed is fewer than the maximum possible number of requirements that could be obeyed without disobeying any restrictions, the declaration of blockers is illegal. If a creature can't block unless a player pays a cost, that player is not required to pay that cost, even if blocking with that creature would increase the number of requirements being obeyed.
Psssshhhhhh. Everyone Jester has brought out the big guns i repeat Jester has brought out the big guns. It is advise to take cover and hope to god Lucy does not find you. May god have mercy on your soul.
Ask him what rule say that he only needs to block with enough creatures to kill the bard.
I will and ur awesome
Proof accepted thank you for the help
Quote from: Hakuu on April 12, 2012, 05:18:32 PM
Proof accepted thank you for the help
You know, that just made my day. :D
I thought for sure he would find some other excuse or something. "This BlackJester person probably just made all that up."