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Best Gw Aggro 75 cards, 15 sideboard 9 {Forest} 7 {Plains} 4 {Sunpetal Grove} 3 {Temple Garden} 23 lands 4 {Silverblade Paladin} 4 {Loxodon Smiter} 4 {Arbor Elf} 4 {Strangleroot Geist} 4 {Avacyn's Pilgrim} 3 {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} 4 {Wolfir Silverheart} 3 {Sublime Archangel} 30 creatures 3 {Selesnya Charm} 4 {Rancor} 7 other spells Sideboard 2 {Thragtusk} 1 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 1 {Garruk Relentless} 1 {Safe Passage} 2 {Garruk, Primal Hunter} 3 {Elite Inquisitor} 3 {Knight of Glory} 2 {Restoration Angel} 15 sideboard cards Notes: My fnm is very hard core... It's exactly like playing at a states tourney every Friday night. This deck always goes 3-2 last fnm I lost to a jund aggro and a uw control. I am thinking about taking out the wolfir silver hearts for some of the things in the sb

Really need 8 Mana Dorks?

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 24, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
Really need 8 Mana Dorks?

You realy have never seen a a gw aggro that placed 1st in a big tourney

Help welcome

You realise pretty much anything that has 75 cards is crazy inconsistent....

Quote from: izik99 on October 24, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
You realise pretty much anything that has 75 cards is crazy inconsistent....

You realize that's adding the sideboard, right?

On ur place I would not play {sublime angel}... Good card but I would main {Traghtusk} and {Restoration Angel} instead...;)

That could be much more helpful...;) anyway u will mostly attack in group not by only one creature...;)

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 24, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
Really need 8 Mana Dorks?

Maybe I would cut them to 3 and 3...;) still huge chance to get them on time...;)

Quote from: whitedrake on October 24, 2012, 03:44:45 PM
On ur place I would not play {sublime angel}... Good card but I would main {Traghtusk} and {Restoration Angel} instead...;)

That could be much more helpful...;) anyway u will mostly attack in group not by only one creature...;)

Have you realy looked on tcg player and looked the gw aggro decks that do tourneys they all run 3-4 of her

I have won on turn 4 with her and I just did that in a wall game

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on October 24, 2012, 03:50:49 PM

Quote from: whitedrake on October 24, 2012, 03:44:45 PM
On ur place I would not play {sublime angel}... Good card but I would main {Traghtusk} and {Restoration Angel} instead...;)

That could be much more helpful...;) anyway u will mostly attack in group not by only one creature...;)

Have you realy looked on tcg player and looked the gw aggro decks that do tourneys they all run 3-4 of her

I have won on turn 4 with her and I just did that in a wall game

Mhmm obviously u do not need any suggestions...:D take a look only on the web and ur deck is perfect...;)

Anyway stregth of the deck depends also on what the deck is facing.. Sublime angel is nice card and good card but not always it is that helpful...;) with ur build I guess I would not have that much of problems...;)

Can you explain why my deck only goes
3-2
At fnm always loes to control that's why i MB thalia

My advice: take out 3 to 4 silverhearts and mainboard 3 to 4 thragtusk. In a control dominated meta thragtusk is stronger than wolfir, and gives you card advantage.

Wolfir is good but he is like an enchantment creature spell: kill one part and the other fails. Imo silverblade is the only bond creatute you need to win mainboard.

Sublime also is not good except with 2 or more other creatures on board. Good when you get a perfect hand obviously (t3 sublime double strike), but maybe test other options. For instance, if youmainboard thragtusk, mainboarding resto angel x3 instead of sublime could net you a huge advantage.

Resto angel and thragtusk: IMMEDIATE etb effects
Sublime and wolfir: you have to attack for stuff to happen

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on October 24, 2012, 04:13:35 PM
My advice: take out 3 to 4 silverhearts and mainboard 3 to 4 thragtusk. In a control dominated meta thragtusk is stronger than wolfir, and gives you card advantage.

Wolfir is good but he is like an enchantment creature spell: kill one part and the other fails. Imo silverblade is the only bond creatute you need to win mainboard.

Sublime also is not good except with 2 or more other creatures on board. Good when you get a perfect hand obviously (t3 sublime double strike), but maybe test other options. For instance, if youmainboard thragtusk, mainboarding resto angel x3 instead of sublime could net you a huge advantage.

Resto angel and thragtusk: IMMEDIATE etb effects
Sublime and wolfir: you have to attack for stuff to happen

For now I only have 2 thragtusk what about putting in some garruk a for wolfir?

And jund also kills me

You need {borderland ranger} and heavy life gain. This will get you to the midgame without looking like a fish in a barrel for the opponent. I forsee missed land drops and early life loss leading to your losses. As for beating control i can only recommend {nevermore} to hit their troublesome cards.

Quote from: Kaleo42 on October 24, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
You need {borderland ranger} and heavy life gain. This will get you to the midgame without looking like a fish in a barrel for the opponent. I forsee missed land drops and early life loss leading to your losses. As for beating control i can only recommend {nevermore} to hit their troublesome cards.

This is not my build except the sb it's a build from Tcgplayer deck that got 1st in a tourney  and I need 1 more temple garden
If you say it's not good how did it do so well
... For some reason it's not making the cut for me

I didnt say it was bad. Just because a deck gets first doesnt mean it's a winner. A deck get's first because it was played by the right player against the right decks. This is why i build my own decks. It takes a long time to play and learn a deck to get it to perform like it does in a major tourney. Net builds almost always dissapoint.

Quote from: Kaleo42 on October 24, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
You need {borderland ranger} and heavy life gain. This will get you to the midgame without looking like a fish in a barrel for the opponent. I forsee missed land drops and early life loss leading to your losses. As for beating control i can only recommend {nevermore} to hit their troublesome cards.

{Nevermore} is one of my favorite cards... I was playing against a vampire deck and I cast nevermore and said "Vampire Nighthawk" ... My opponent, pissed off, then removed three from his hand and scooped.

I feel like it isn't worth people's time to make suggestions if the only response is going to be that you found a deck list online that just happened to do well on a given day and that no one here could possibly come up with something to improve it. No one is saying it's bad, they're saying it could be better. Ignore their advice if you want to, but be nice about it. And I'd advise that you take some of the advice into consideration and test it out. That's how you're going to improve your deck.

Quote from: tsul25 on October 24, 2012, 11:22:20 PM
I feel like it isn't worth people's time to make suggestions if the only response is going to be that you found a deck list online that just happened to do well on a given day and that no one here could possibly come up with something to improve it. No one is saying it's bad, they're saying it could be better. Ignore their advice if you want to, but be nice about it. And I'd advise that you take some of the advice into consideration and test it out. That's how you're going to improve your deck.

I have borderland ranger is not needed because I do not have land problems i like coffe vampires idea about the thragtusk  but I only have 2 so what else should I put in for wolfir

If you only have 2 thrags just keep wolfir as a 1-of. It's a good card and you won't be sad to see it. And if you don't see it, you will see thrags or other creatures you need. OR another great 1-of is {Collective Puffing}. It's late game and all you are drawing is useless mana dorks? Those mana dorks are now loxodon smiters.

OH just thought of another suggestion: {Cigar, Host of Heroin} as a sideboard option. GREAT card against many decks especially jund control. Hexproof AND survives mizzium? Yes please. I would put 2-3 of them in the sb. Maybe get rid of safe passage and garruk relentless (a slow and so-so pw).

Have you thought about deathrite in here? Lifegain to exile for one mana helps against golgari.

Quote from: K-RO on October 25, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
Have you thought about deathrite in here? Lifegain to exile for one mana helps against golgari.

He would slow the deck down

Quote from: tsul25 on October 24, 2012, 11:22:20 PM
I feel like it isn't worth people's time to make suggestions if the only response is going to be that you found a deck list online that just happened to do well on a given day and that no one here could possibly come up with something to improve it. No one is saying it's bad, they're saying it could be better. Ignore their advice if you want to, but be nice about it. And I'd advise that you take some of the advice into consideration and test it out. That's how you're going to improve your deck.

This dude. My thoughts exactly.

Quote from: Myska707 on October 26, 2012, 12:41:44 PM

Quote from: tsul25 on October 24, 2012, 11:22:20 PM
I feel like it isn't worth people's time to make suggestions if the only response is going to be that you found a deck list online that just happened to do well on a given day and that no one here could possibly come up with something to improve it. No one is saying it's bad, they're saying it could be better. Ignore their advice if you want to, but be nice about it. And I'd advise that you take some of the advice into consideration and test it out. That's how you're going to impr
ove your deck.

This dude. My thoughts exactly.

Ok I will make
Coffe vampires  idea