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Title: Sacrificing
Post by: BadLuckIrish on January 11, 2012, 11:27:21 PM
Is it possible to sacrifice a creature as its going into the graveyard?
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
You can sacrifice a creature as a response, if that's what you mean.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BadLuckIrish on January 11, 2012, 11:39:25 PM
Well like say i block a 2/2 with a 1/1 after damage done say i use Vampire Aristocrat  ability to sacrifice that 1/1. One of the challages on magic 2012 requires u to do this but it doesnt make any sense to me.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Rass on January 11, 2012, 11:41:26 PM
If you declear your 1/1 as a blocker the 2/2 is blocked. Before damage is delt you sacrifice your 1/1 your good. Unless the 2/2 has trample. Hope that makes sense
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BadLuckIrish on January 11, 2012, 11:43:24 PM
Now that makes sense. Thank you.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Rass on January 11, 2012, 11:48:03 PM
As long as you sacrifice before its heading to the graveyard your good. There was a good post awhile back by black jester that explained turn orders it really helped me out.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Let me see if I can dig it up...
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Rass on January 12, 2012, 12:07:44 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Let me see if I can dig it up...
The man of the hour I should have just let you answer it
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
I think it's good for other people to try.  I don't want people feeling like they shouldn't jump in.  If they get it right, there's less work for me.  If they get it wrong, I can help two people at the same time.  ;)  Plus there's an off-chance that I'm wrong.

As I think about it, the ability to sacrifice something doesn't really have much to do with turn structure.  The important thing to remember is that: a) if you sac something for one reason, you can't sac it a second time.  Mainly because it's already dead. b) if something could be killed because of something on the Stack (an important part of the game, and should be in the Basic Rules above) you can sac it before that other thing resolves.  If that's not clear, let me know.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:16:58 AM
Quote from: Rass on January 12, 2012, 12:07:44 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Let me see if I can dig it up...
The man of the hour I should have just let you answer it

I think you mean this one, but I'm not 100%

http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php/topic,327.0.html
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Rass on January 12, 2012, 12:18:22 AM

Yea that was it
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BadLuckIrish on January 12, 2012, 12:24:11 AM
Ok so another question arises. You say before damage is dealt i can sacrifice te card would that mean abilities like lifelink not work considering no damage was dealt?
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:28:25 AM
Quote from: Rass on January 12, 2012, 12:18:22 AM
Jester reread you a) point your missing a not in there
Yea that was it

Oops!   :o  Fixed.  Thanks!

Quote from: BadLuckIrish on January 12, 2012, 12:24:11 AM
Ok so another question arises. You say before damage is dealt i can sacrifice te card would that mean abilities like lifelink not work considering no damage was dealt?

You.  Are.  Correct.

Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Pakamper on January 12, 2012, 06:16:14 PM
I have something along the same lines as this. If my opponet plays a card that says I sacrafice a creature at my upkeep, can i use {Corrupted Harvester} as my sacraficed creature then regenerate him by playing 1 black mana?
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: Pakamper on January 12, 2012, 06:16:14 PM
I have something along the same lines as this. If my opponet plays a card that says I sacrafice a creature at my upkeep, can i use {Corrupted Harvester} as my sacraficed creature then regenerate him by playing 1 black mana?

Sacrifice is different than destroy. You can't regenerate from sacrifice.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Pakamper on January 12, 2012, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: Pakamper on January 12, 2012, 06:16:14 PM
I have something along the same lines as this. If my opponet plays a card that says I sacrafice a creature at my upkeep, can i use {Corrupted Harvester} as my sacraficed creature then regenerate him by playing 1 black mana?

Sacrifice is different than destroy. You can't regenerate from sacrifice.

Even if the card says all opponets sacrifice a creature at their upkeep?
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Pakamper on January 12, 2012, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: Pakamper on January 12, 2012, 06:16:14 PM
I have something along the same lines as this. If my opponet plays a card that says I sacrafice a creature at my upkeep, can i use {Corrupted Harvester} as my sacraficed creature then regenerate him by playing 1 black mana?

Sacrifice is different than destroy. You can't regenerate from sacrifice.

Even if the card says all opponets sacrifice a creature at their upkeep?
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 07:44:21 PM
For any reason.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Pakamper on January 12, 2012, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 07:44:21 PM
For any reason.

You do know his regenerate cost is sac a creature and pay 1 black mana right?
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: cltrn81 on January 12, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
You are sacing him for the upkeep cost not for the ability cost.  Anyway nothing can save a creature once it is sacrificed.  Even Indestructable creatures can be sacrificed.......so no you could not regenerate him regardless of the cost if you sac him.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 11:11:15 PM
Another thing, you can't sacrifice a creature twice. That is, you can't sac it for two different reasons. If you sac one to pay the regen cost, it will not count towards the other tigger tellin you to sac a creature. You'll have to pick another one.
Title: Re: Sacrificing
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 01:53:39 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 11:11:15 PM
Another thing, you can't sacrifice a creature twice. That is, you can't sac it for two different reasons. If you sac one to pay the regen cost, it will not count towards the other tigger tellin you to sac a creature. You'll have to pick another one.
Otherwise I would not use my sac EDH deck as it would WAY TOO overpowered!

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