20 {Plains}
20 lands
3 {Fiend Hunter}
3 {Accorder Paladin}
4 {Gideon's Lawkeeper}
4 {Hero of Bladehold}
3 {Doomed Traveler}
4 {Champion of the Parish}
2 {Elite Vanguard}
2 {Grand Abolisher}
2 {Mirran Crusader}
27 creatures
4 {Oblivion Ring}
2 {Bonds of Faith}
2 {Silver-Inlaid Dagger}
3 {Honor of the Pure}
1 {Remember the Fallen}
1 {Elspeth Tirel}
13 other spells
Sideboard
2 {Suture Priest}
2 {Grand Abolisher}
2 {Leonin Relic-Warder}
2 {Day of Judgment}
2 {Elite Inquisitor}
2 {Nihil Spellbomb}
1 {Honor of the Pure}
1 {Remember the Fallen}
2 {Butcher's Cleaver}
16 sideboard cards
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Would you help me optimize this deck?
-1 {remember the fallen}
-4 {accorder paladin}
+2 {elite vanguard}
+2 {mirran crusader} in mainboard instead of sideboard
I've never found accorder paladin to be as useful unfortunately it doesn't trade well with cards like doomed traveler
I would also add in another {butcher's cleaver}
I wish you had 4 crusaders but that's just me, looks great so far though especially with those 4 {hero of bladehold}s
{Accorder Paladin}'s great if you're packing a {Pitchfork}, though.
Most definitely
What about {Angelic Overseer}?
Quote from: Bernardcs on January 11, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
What about {Angelic Overseer}?
You are pushing it when you try to cast a 5 casting cost with only 20 land.....statistically that is.
Definitely run the {mirran crusader} in the main. They are your targets for the equipment and auras you have.
Quote from: cltrn81 on January 11, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: Bernardcs on January 11, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
What about {Angelic Overseer}?
You are pushing it when you try to cast a 5 casting cost with only 20 land.....statistically that is.
That's right. I wasn't thinking about mana cost.
Now, about {Accorder Paladin}, I like it because of the battle cry ability. If I play against a blue deck, for instance, {Mirran Crusader} protection ability is useless...
But his double strike is still really useful, if blue is an issue try {sword of body and mind}
You have plenty of 1 drops, I would ditch the {elite vanguard} for the 2 {mirran crusader}. Maybee drop 2 {accorder paladin} for 2 {mentor of the meek}.....card drawing will keep this deck going after you empty your hand really fast. Also I know that {butcher's clever} is tempting to use but it costs 6 mana to finally have it equipped. I would dump the clever and {remember the fallen} for 2 more {silver-inlaid dagger} or 2 more {bonds of faith} or two Swords of .........
I don't think the mentor works with {honor of the pure} on the board
Have you ever considered {Cloistered Youth}?
Quote from: Validan on January 11, 2012, 11:03:05 PM
I don't think the mentor works with {honor of the pure} on the board
Good point
The {Honor of the Pure} effect affects just creatures in the battlefild, doesn't it? I could still use {Mentor of the Meek}...
Quote from: Bernardcs on January 12, 2012, 12:33:27 PM
The {Honor of the Pure} effect affects just creatures in the battlefild, doesn't it? I could still use {Mentor of the Meek}...
This is a bit of a tricky one, but they would get the bonus as soon as they hit. If you cast a 2/2, it'll be 3/3 by the time Mentor checks it.
Dammit...
Updated:
1x{Butcher's Cleaver}
1x{Accorder Paladin}
Both to sideboard...
Main deck with 2x{Mirran Crusader}.
Out with 3x{Mentor of the Meek}.
I would cut the Cleavers for {Silver-Inlaid Dagger}.
Yesterday I played against a deck with protection from white (no, it wasn't standard) and lost.
Any idea to win it?
Play Enchantment/Artifact destruction and Creature Wrath in the board?
{day of judgment}
What about adding {Gideon Jura}?
And {Timely Reinforcements}?
With pro white neither of those would help, but timely is a good sideboard card
Quote from: Bernardcs on January 13, 2012, 08:22:16 AM
Yesterday I played against a deck with protection from white (no, it wasn't standard) and lost.
Any idea to win it?
Its nearly impossible (if not entirely impossible) to build a deck without weaknesses. One guy makes a Vampire deck, the other guy builds an anti-Vampire deck that beats it. But otherwise, that anti-Vampire deck is ðŸ'©.
There are ways around protection if that's what you want to do to beat this one deck.
Quote from: BlackJester on January 13, 2012, 04:12:51 PM
Quote from: Bernardcs on January 13, 2012, 08:22:16 AM
Yesterday I played against a deck with protection from white (no, it wasn't standard) and lost.
Any idea to win it?
Its nearly impossible (if not entirely impossible) to build a deck without weaknesses. One guy makes a Vampire deck, the other guy builds an anti-Vampire deck that beats it. But otherwise, that anti-Vampire deck is ðŸ'©.
There are ways around protection if that's what you want to do to beat this one deck.
That's why you run {Wrath of God}, {Day of Judgement}, etc.
Not if theyre using stupid stuff like CoP white, or {Sphere of Truth}. Would you main deck {Disenchant} just to deal with it? Sideboard, maybe...
Until new cards come out I think this deck is as good as it is going to get, most of these builds look the same and there's a lot of standard cards that go into decks like these and I wouldn't worry about improving it right now because it's already very good and if it hasn't hit it's piqué yet it is almost there. Since there are more cards coming out though like I said I would wait
Quote from: Validan on January 15, 2012, 11:46:49 AM
Until new cards come out I think this deck is as good as it is going to get, most of these builds look the same and there's a lot of standard cards that go into decks like these and I wouldn't worry about improving it right now because it's already very good and if it hasn't hit it's piqué yet it is almost there. Since there are more cards coming out though like I said I would wait
Thanks!
I agree with Validan's last comment. When the new set comes out, I recommend {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} she seems cool. Find her @ http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127171&stc=1&d=1326344441
Proph had a great with {Cloistered Youth}, too. I never really liked white weenie decks before around M11, now they are awesome.😃
Can you guys help me improve my sideboard?
Quote from: Bernardcs on January 13, 2012, 08:22:16 AM
Yesterday I played against a deck with protection from white (no, it wasn't standard) and lost.
Any idea to win it?
Play better! ^^ jk haha
Quote from: Bernardcs on January 17, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
Can you guys help me improve my sideboard?
{Cloistered Youth} in place of Paladins, Paladins in sideboard?