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Junk Token 75 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Grove of the Guardian} 2 {Vault of the Archangel} 2 {Forest} 2 {Plains} 4 {Sunpetal Grove} 2 {Gavony Township} 4 {Temple Garden} 4 {Overgrown Tomb} 22 lands 4 {Avacyn's Pilgrim} 3 {Wayfaring Temple} 2 {Trostani, Selesnya's Voice} 3 {Thragtusk} 3 {Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage} 15 creatures 2 {Parallel Lives} 4 {Lingering Souls} 3 {Call of the Conclave} 3 {Intangible Virtue} 3 {Farseek} 3 {Rootborn Defenses} 3 {Growing Ranks} 2 {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} 23 other spells Sideboard 3 {Selesnya Charm} 2 {Loxodon Smiter} 4 {Sundering Growth} 3 {Collective Blessing} 3 {Druid's Deliverance} 15 sideboard cards Notes: I just want a token deck :(

Just an attempt, it's probably got a lot of flaws I can't see, so please critique it.

I actually think armada wurm could really be a great bomb but I have no clue what to take out

In my eyes the synergy of this deck is great and I think I have enough bombs

Also thinking of adding Rancor possibly

I like it, still somewhat confused why PW's make sideboard and not main deck, why would you side in Vraska?

Other than that, it all syncs very well together.

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 03:41:50 PM
I like it, still somewhat confused why PW's make sideboard and not main deck, why would you side in Vraska?

Other than that, it all syncs very well together.

Honestly, to keep my mana curve down, and I find she would only be useful against either a mirror deck

A faster deck, she probably wouldn't see play or just get answered, and controls decks will just bump her back to my had or exile or detain

Just really my meta will really hate her in my eyes

I was also running {Druid's Deliverance} but dropped it because it doesn't protect my PW's, added {Rootborn Defenses} to help with board sweepers, and still get to populate.  Check out mine and see what you think.

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 03:50:10 PM
I was also running {Druid's Deliverance} but dropped it because it doesn't protect my PW's, added {Rootborn Defenses} to help with board sweepers, and still get to populate.  Check out mine and see what you think.

I have my Rootborn main and deliverance side simply because it helps against bonfire and burn and populates for one less but Rootborn helps against board wipes outside of bonfire and I can wipe their board with Rootborn if played right

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 08, 2012, 03:56:23 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 03:50:10 PM
I was also running {Druid's Deliverance} but dropped it because it doesn't protect my PW's, added {Rootborn Defenses} to help with board sweepers, and still get to populate.  Check out mine and see what you think.

I have my Rootborn main and deliverance side simply because it helps against bonfire and burn and populates for one less but Rootborn helps against board wipes outside of bonfire and I can wipe their board with Rootborn if played right

How could Rootborn wipe them?

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 04:29:47 PM

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 08, 2012, 03:56:23 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 03:50:10 PM
I was also running {Druid's Deliverance} but dropped it because it doesn't protect my PW's, added {Rootborn Defenses} to help with board sweepers, and still get to populate.  Check out mine and see what you think.

I have my Rootborn main and deliverance side simply because it helps against bonfire and burn and populates for one less but Rootborn helps against board wipes outside of bonfire and I can wipe their board with Rootborn if played right

How could Rootborn wipe them?

I swing in and my guys become indestructible, so I can clear their guys if they are blocking and mine won't die

Sublime defeats the hole point of this deck

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on October 08, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Sublime defeats the hole point of this deck

How?

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on October 08, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Sublime defeats the hole point of this deck

I think he doesn't like how she's the only one with Exalted lol

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 06:20:41 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on October 08, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Sublime defeats the hole point of this deck

I think he doesn't like how she's the only one with Exalted lol

She gives everything exalted

So...?

Bump?

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 08, 2012, 09:05:13 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 06:20:41 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on October 08, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Sublime defeats the hole point of this deck

I think he doesn't like how she's the only one with Exalted lol

She gives everything exalted

So...?

I'd say add in swag tusk and maybe sideboard the sublimes, chances are with this deck 70% of the time you would still be better off with a swarm attack rather than a beefy exalted swing. The swagtusk allows you to gain life when you play him AND you get a token when your opponent finally deals with him

Quote from: BcBudds on October 09, 2012, 02:03:17 AM

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 08, 2012, 09:05:13 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 06:20:41 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on October 08, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Sublime defeats the hole point of this deck

I think he doesn't like how she's the only one with Exalted lol

She gives everything exalted

So...?

I'd say add in swag tusk and maybe sideboard the sublimes, chances are with this deck 70% of the time you would still be better off with a swarm attack rather than a beefy exalted swing. The swagtusk allows you to gain life when you play him AND you get a token when your opponent finally deals with him

Do I agree with you? Definitely

Only problem, I feel if I add the 3 tusks, I'm risking my mana pool, and then i would have to cut out something and in my jones opinion, this deck synergy is crazy good

So I may playtest the tusks main board and see how the mana works out

Quote from: BcBudds on October 09, 2012, 02:03:17 AM

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 08, 2012, 09:05:13 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 08, 2012, 06:20:41 PM

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on October 08, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Sublime defeats the hole point of this deck

The life gain can realy save token decks because they are not that fast
I think he doesn't like how she's the only one with Exalted lol

She gives everything exalted

So...?

I'd say add in swag tusk and maybe sideboard the sublimes, chances are with this deck 70% of the time you would still be better off with a swarm attack rather than a beefy exalted swing. The swagtusk allows you to gain life when you play him AND you get a token when your opponent finally deals with him

Traded out the Thragtusk with the archangels

Thinking of taking my vraska And just boarding 2 sever the bloodline or underworld connections

Cause honestly, I'm trying to figure out how to draw with this deck

Primal hunter and underworld connections are the only things that come to mind, abundant growth maybe?

Updated

Play tested and I can keep my mana and still have tusk main board, tool out vraska and sideboarded smiter

Still debating on draws, really thinking of possibly underworld connections or primal hunter

Bump

-1 Intangable Vitue
+1 Call to Conclave/+1 Farseek

IMO.

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 10, 2012, 12:34:19 PM
-1 Intangable Vitue
+1 Call to Conclave/+1 Farseek

IMO.

Doesn't mess with you cmc, and Farseek is so broken with ShockLands.

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 10, 2012, 12:35:27 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 10, 2012, 12:34:19 PM
-1 Intangable Vitue
+1 Call to Conclave/+1 Farseek

IMO.

Doesn't mess with you cmc, and Farseek is so broken with ShockLands.

Been play testing and I'm not screwed with my land on draws or token spawning, it's just drawing in general

But I may do the farseek as you said for shock lands

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 10, 2012, 12:53:03 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 10, 2012, 12:35:27 PM

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 10, 2012, 12:34:19 PM
-1 Intangable Vitue
+1 Call to Conclave/+1 Farseek

IMO.

Doesn't mess with you cmc, and Farseek is so broken with ShockLands.

Been play testing and I'm not screwed with my land on draws or token spawning, it's just drawing in general

But I may do the farseek as you said for shock lands

Yup it gets you the dual colors, and don't have to pay the 2life next turn.

Maybe,

{Elvish Visionary}
{Sign in Blood}
{Cremate}
Or
{Abundant Growth}

For draw is all I can think of.

I was thinking of {underworld connection}

Cause it's a consistent draw

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 10, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
I was thinking of {underworld connection}

Cause it's a consistent draw

{Staff of Nin} if need be.

Quote from: Monrodesign on October 10, 2012, 02:01:09 PM

Quote from: Mothaelon on October 10, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
I was thinking of {underworld connection}

Cause it's a consistent draw

{Staff of Nin} if need be.

I'd go with UW before staff

It depends...underworld is faster but is more removable; staff is slower but has more utility.

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on October 10, 2012, 02:27:18 PM
It depends...underworld is faster but is more removable; staff is slower but has more utility.

Or I could just drop a griselbrand

Nah, I really wouldn't so that, he is just op as for drawing your whole deck lol

Updated my lands to provide some better utility and board presence

Changed my sideboard, took out my 3 sublime and boarded in 3 collective blessing

Mainly? For a late game finisher, maybe a mirror token comp, or a standstill later game, I can drop a blessing and now I'm winnig, and it doesn't have to be fast, I can stall for a very long time until I get my mana pool built up

Thoughts? Maybe a better sideboard option?